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PopGAF |OT6| Beyonic is never coming out.
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What? Nothing out of the ordinary.
Never I hope.
But can Xtina reach those notes and be pitch perfect like that? Never again.
I'm here for Body Party and I'm Out. Overdose is cute I guess. Why does Cici have 2 songs featuring Nicki tho?
I need to listen to the full tracks to judge but so far....
In other news...
Pap: Miley are you pregnant?
Miley: No, I'm fucking sick you bitch.
ratchet miley is the worst
Anything Miley is the worst.
ratchet miley is the worst
No lies here. I wish her ratchet phase would at least give us good songs.
But she has her features have been slaying (her parts anyway) and we can't stop is unlike anything on the radio. Only a king.
But she has her features have been slaying (her parts anyway) and we can't stop is unlike anything on the radio. Only a king.
spill it
but I cant at radio still paying the song dust, but hopefully the video yesterday garnered enough attention for the song so it can start picking up with air plays
One decent feature does not a king make.
You can't do apples to oranges comparisons like that. Whitney wasn't able to maintain her voice and gorgeous tone for eight years in spite of cigarette smoking, drinking, and hard drugs before she seriously started to decline simply because she had fantastic technique. It wouldn't matter how good her technique was if she had a light and fragile voice instead of a thick spinto - and most of the singers you mentioned are mezzos with more weight to their voices. Christina is a lyric mezzo soprano with a light voice and she has been singing for years with a raised larynx, an extraordinary amount of tension, and harsh glottal onsets. Of course she's going to take more damage than a heavier mezzo voice like Tina Turner.
I have said this before: Christina has a voice that is similar in weight to Mariah, and we both know how fast Mariah's voice fell off between 1997 and 1999. It is entirely possible to vocal damage to cause precipitous declines, and Mariah's decline was absolutely related to unhealthy vocal technique, due to her overuse of breathiness in her vocals. This was exacerbated by her existing vocal damage from her nodules and the natural fragility of her voice, but it was a factor and it made her decline inevitable. This will also likely happen to Ariana if she continues in that same vein.
But I also don't think that Christina's general singing ability has suddenly careened off a cliff; I think that this is a continuation of a trend that has been in existence for a long time and it is simply catching up to her now. If you watch vocal range videos of her singing live, she can see over the years as she loses clarity and as she starts straining earlier and earlier.
You're right, disuse can have an effect. And it certainly did have an effect with Whitney, but I think you're nuts if you think that her drug use - which by all accounts became much worse while she was inactive and a recluse than it had been before - was not due to damage. Vocal damage doesn't just magically go away as your vocal chords develop scar tissue and nodules. Unless you go on vocal rest immediately and allow your voice to recover, or get it surgically removed, you're stuck with it... and nodules beget more vocal damage.
Let's be honest here. These are some things that can damage your voice:
- Disuse
- Excessive tension
- Excessive breathiness
- Excessive singing or vocalizing
- Poor Vocal Placement
- Bad speaking techniques (no seriously)
- Yelling / Shouting
- Overly harsh glottal onsets
- Smoking
- Drinking
- Various illicit substances
- Excessive loudness (for your voice)
This is not meant to be exhaustive, but I think it is clear that you can never say that one thing led to a singer's decline. For instance, I would point to 3, 4, 6, and 10 as things that negatively affected Mariah's voice. Or for Whitney, 1, 4, 7, 9, 10, and 11. So the fact that you are trying to say, "Well, because Christina has a lot of disuse, I'm going to point to that as the main factor and largely ignore 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, and 12 as major factors" - in spite of the fact that their effects have been evidence for years now - strikes me as a reach.
You aren't making excuses for her bad technique; you are making excuses for her poor vocal condition that don't relate to her bad technique.
And doesn't keep up with a vocal coach? Oh:
Well, you've heard the results. How did that work out?
If you go by studio vocals, Rihanna can hit those notes in studio. Christina can't hit them well, and you can hear the damage in her voice. If you go by studio vocals, Mariah sounds much the same as she did in the early 00s and sometimes as good as she did in the mid-90s!
I don't buy studio vocals as particularly reliable. At best they say that the notes might still be in her throat - though given the way that they are yelped or screeched out on Lotus I'm not sure I'd count them at all - but either way given her inability or unwillingness to stick with her vocal training I don't see what difference it makes.
uh huh
How much credence should we give this disuse hypothesis when she's supposedly had a vocal coach since 2011?
We can't stop is trash. Shameless Rihanna copy. She even copped a Mike WiLL beat just because he's hot right now. What's she trying to do, get rap crossover? None of us have time for that bullshyt . There's nothing original or worthwhile about this chick, even Ariana Grande's Ditto impersonation is better than hers. Billy Ray must be disgusted right now, his daughter is ~30 months from being the new Amanda Bynes.
Ooh La La is cute little bop, but it's too drawn out. It would be better if it ended halfway through.
This is horrible.
This is horrible.
Calling her the future Amanda Bynes is so dumb, what has she done exactly? Did some revealing shoots, big deal. Started doing music that's more raunchy, oh Lord. Smokes weed? Yeah so does everyone including Rihanna who's like the biggest drug user in the business without being a druggie. She's nowhere near Amanda Bynes, sorry.
We can't stop is a Rihanna ripoff yeah. I mean it's a Rihanna leftover so there's no defending that.
What I don't get is how Selena has been completely free of scrutiny. Yeah she hasn't been as upfront as Miley but her Rihanna leftover is about fucking, she dated Bieber and probs fucked Gucci, starred in Spring Breakers, and also started dressing more revealingly.
I'm not saying she's not a tryhard because she is. But all this ire over an image change and calling her the next Amanda Bynes over nothing is just too much.
We can't stop is a Rihanna ripoff yeah. I mean it's a Rihanna leftover so there's no defending that.
What I don't get is how Selena has been completely free of scrutiny. Yeah she hasn't been as upfront as Miley but her Rihanna leftover is about fucking, she dated Bieber and probs fucked Gucci, starred in Spring Breakers, and also started dressing more revealingly.
I'm not saying she's not a tryhard because she is. But all this ire over an image change and calling her the next Amanda Bynes over nothing is just too much.
Yes Esch read Miley for filth.
Selena has the classier public image IMO. I'm not sure why she should be under scrutiny tbh. She's quietly slipping into maturity without relying on silly antics to do it. It doesn't hurt that being coupled with the Biebs makes her look better by association.
Selena has the classier public image IMO. I'm not sure why she should be under scrutiny tbh. She's quietly slipping into maturity without relying on silly antics to do it. It doesn't hurt that being coupled with the Biebs makes her look better by association.
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Mumei can teach me so much about singing technique n shit.
Mumu, rank these ladies from most to least polished across a couple of those categories you mentioned!
- Whitney
- Mariah
- Aretha
- Patti
- Beyonce
- Christina
- Kelly
- Adele
I just wanna see how you compare them. Do it for meeeeeee.
Mumu, rank these ladies from most to least polished across a couple of those categories you mentioned!
- Whitney
- Mariah
- Aretha
- Patti
- Beyonce
- Christina
- Kelly
- Adele
I just wanna see how you compare them. Do it for meeeeeee.
Ooh! Let me see if I know Mumu as well as I think:
-Whitney
-Aretha
-Patti
-Mimi
-BeySatancé
-Kelly
-Christina
-Adele
Overall
There is a rumor that Gaga is going to be named Woman of the Year by Rolling Stone in their September issue
if true I'm going to have a kii towards your faves
They already know they will be slayed in August/September.
maybe
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
What in the world for?
Her Born This Way foundation stuff maybe?
Just got back from This is The End and I cant at people clapping at Rihanna's death and there were even a few standing ovations. The movie was fucking awesome but lord those laughs when Rih went through that thing.
Rih has the best rated movie of all the girls here? This has like 85 or something on RT
Rih has the best rated movie of all the girls here? This has like 85 or something on RT
Majmun
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Majmun
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Was the Grown Woman snippet posted?
It sounds...hollow. They shouldn't have removed the African melody from the chorus.
It sounds...hollow. They shouldn't have removed the African melody from the chorus.
Which categories, exactly?
Why doe this snippet sound like it was produced on a Casio keyboard?
paperheart
Banned
This foreshadowing of an epic slayage from GaGa later this year has gotten me all worked up. XBeyOne tried.
nnnnn
Why does this post read like it was produced on a looper?
[edit]I see that Instagram are helping Lana to make her next video even more easily than ever.
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Just came across this today and I loooovee it.
Also: Thea & the Wild - "Hots for You" + "Cry Sometimes"
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