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PopGAF |OT6| Beyonic is never coming out.

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Trigger

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I wish Bey could try being a legend that releases shit. Where is Grown Woman and SOTS?
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Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Seriously though there was this thread where a guy was like 'women have been objectified by everyone because they're obviously more aesthetically pleasing' and it was like 'what the fuck have you even ever seen classical statues? they're literally ALL hot guys'

Obviously all the real men were off to war, and all the gays stayed home to playsculpt.

Hour long mix of pop + dance music that you all might enjoy
 

Kyon

Banned
Seriously though there was this thread where a guy was like 'women have been objectified by everyone because they're obviously more aesthetically pleasing' and it was like 'what the fuck have you even ever seen classical statues? they're literally ALL hot guys'

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cory64

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Seriously though there was this thread where a guy was like 'women have been objectified by everyone because they're obviously more aesthetically pleasing' and it was like 'what the fuck have you even ever seen classical statues? they're literally ALL hot guys'
And consider that that male standard of beauty is still considered ideal, but the classical female figure is not (in the west).
 
What kind of hazing do I have to endure to become a member of popgaf? Not really sure I want to be a member of popgaf, but I kind of do. I am down with whatever hazing is necessary but please don't fuck with my ankles.
I used to watch Trailer Park Boys, so you're already cool because of that. Just be yourself. Bringing a new perspective into this thread is not a bad thing.

Hopefully, you like Kellgend and Lady GaGa, though. Also, liking Final Fantasy X-2 will net you brownie points with Kyon, so that is highly recommended. Hehe. :)
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
What kind of hazing do I have to endure to become a member of popgaf? Not really sure I want to be a member of popgaf, but I kind of do. I am down with whatever hazing is necessary but please don't fuck with my ankles.

You should basically learn the lingo of stans. This should help a bit

You should have some faves (Favorite Pop Artists) and you can share your opinions about the artist being talked about here or bring your own conversation of pop artists. We have varied tastes that go to 50 music up to date. Don't be afraid to share what you might consider an unpopular opinion cause we are open to talk about everything on the genre and maybe sometimes go a bit off topic to talk about other genres at times.

Now you can also:
Shade (Use sarcasm)
Drag (Humiliate)
Spill the truth tea (Simply say the truth about something as bad as it might be)

Enjoy your stay. We are all cuckoo in here.
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"Same Love" by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis is about to smash since DOMA was overturned.

Future #1 single.

Its a cute song so I got no problems with that. Get dat hit.
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botty

Banned
Good morning, love.

By my standards, whether Christina is a good singer is a matter of objective fact; whether someone is a legend is a matter of objective facts combined with popular agreement on the meaning of those facts. Christina is indeed a good singer if by that you mean "many of her peers call her a good singer", but that's not the standard I use.

So not at all.

You not using that standard is fair enough. I was just using it because even though people say things, it's best to support those claims, too. You've gathered enough evidence to suggest that Christina is a decent singer at times, but her vocal technique, for the most part, prevents her from being the best singer she can be. Now does this take away from the headlines and awards of her being the "voice of the/a generation"? Well... whose to say, since everyone has different standards. And I suppose in regards to Teena Marie being a legend, we're in similar positions on different topics.


I was demarcating between sales and chart success on the one hand and influence and acclaim on the other. It is certainly an accomplishment to have acclaim and influence; my point in demarcating these qualities is that there's a lot more time spent talking about sales and chart success and not nearly as much spent on acclaim or influence. And when musical acclaim is brought up - for talent in performing, singing, producing, writing, or something else - you are sure to see people denigrate it. This is what happens in every Rihanna vs Beyoncé debate. Rih stans point out her superior chart success and singles success, her very successful worldwide tour, and various product lines associated with her; Bey stans do not Soulscribe does not talk about sales or chart success and instead talks about acclaim and the respect that she is afforded in the press and in popular culture. I think that the Rih stans have a better argument for being "Queen of Pop" at the moment, but if they were talking about who is more likely to be considered a "legend" thirty years down the road, I'd call it a wash.

And that is why I said being a legend encompasses all of the things both of us have mentioned. Beyonce has her chart success, sales, etc... along with the talent, acclaim and peer recognition. While she might not have it like she used to (chart power/sales), most Legends don't maintain that level of success through the years anyway. Unless you're Mariah or Michael, of course. Then we have a moniker like "Queen of Pop," which seems to constantly be shifting based on current accolades and past accolades—all depending on who you are talking to.

It is unsurprising to me that in a topic that focuses so much on the immediate present that taking a long view of someone's legacy and their acclaim and influence after their career is long over is not immediately intuitive. Oh, and you make a good point RE: Aretha being a bigger legend. Teena is indeed as not as big of a legend as some other singers. But she still is.

If I were to label Teena a legend, it would be on a very small scale. It would be isolated to a specific set of years, and genre. Much like the many artist or groups of the past that are considered "legends," but have seemingly disappeared in time. But then that's why I referred to her as an icon, instead of legend. I think Teena is more of a symbol for something rather than

I didn't, and you're dodging the point.

Well, I am not disagreeing with your assessment of radio...segregation. And remember I was referring to your point on "controlled image," so I wasn't exclusively referring to her sound. But maybe I misunderstood where you were going with that. Teena's sound definitely had an air of authenticity, so if that is the image you're referring to, then yes, she was in control, but still I don't think she was the first to be in control.

Moving on to genres, although Teena dabbled predominantly in R&B, it isn't like she didn't also try other genres, too. In fact it was a disco song, I Need Your Lovin', which was her highest charting single. But this kind of genre mixing and experimentation should be expected from friends of Rick James.

What kind of a failed drag. The best part of being gay is that you get to make gay jokes. What part of Miguel's character gives him the right to kick his fans in the head?

Look at the date, godels. It was before Francis came out as gay.

Though, I guess there is a bit of a paradox here: is it ok to be homophobic when you're int he closet, since technically you're still gay?
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twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Look at the date, godels. It was before Francis came out as gay.

Though, I guess there is a bit of a paradox here: is it ok to be homophobic when you're int he closet, since technically you're still gay?
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Oh, oop.

Still though, I lay the blame for closet-based 'homophobia' at the feet of straight people, not gays.
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Partition

Banned
It was nowhere near finished when she was tweeting about it. :/

Didn't she say it took her two years to write Yung Rapunxel? Only Banks can take so long on something and have it still sound like shit
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Meanwhile Gaga wrote the song of our generation in 10 minutes
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Dr. Malik

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Two songs enter the Hot 100's top 10 this week, led by Miley Cyrus' "We Can't Stop," which blasts 27-5 as the top Streaming Gainer. (It just missed the region when it debuted at No. 11 two weeks ago.) The song's video premiere (June 19) spurs a 28-1 vault for it on Streaming Songs (9.6 million, up 471%), while it concurrently rebounds 17-6 (161,000, up 74%) on Hot Digital Songs. "Stop" debuted with 214,000 (No. 3 on Hot Digital Songs) and fell to 93,000 last week.

"Stop" becomes Cyrus' seventh Hot 100 top 10 (including one credited to "Hannah Montana") and first since her highest-charting hit, "Party in the U.S.A." spent three weeks at No. 2 in 2009. The new song is already her third-highest-charting title; "The Climb" rose to No. 4 earlier in 2009.


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Meanwhile Gaga wrote the song of our generation in 10 minutes
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I can't believe that Miley Cyrus song is smashing.

I've realized the radio-iTunes trends lately... it seems the pop pickings have been so stale and generic that the more successful stuff on radio have been offshoots from other genres (folk, rap, country, alternative) rather than more predictably pop. While a lot of pop songs are doing well regardless (like Miley's) I think the fact that a song like that is doing well shows where pop music is right now. The contemporary formula is being stretched so thin now that it's starting to become obvious to me that these big producers have run out of ideas.

I'm excited to see where the pop queens' releases this year move the trends. I think every single of them can easily smash with a pop song that can just be "okay."
 

Weapxn

Mikkelsexual
I can't stop listening to Kelly's new country single, "Tie It Up." It makes me genuinely want a full country album from her. Or at the very least a country EP. I could settle with 5ish songs. I feel like this is a side of her we haven't really ever seen, and it's really fun. I could totally get on board with seeing more of it -- as long as she didn't ditch the pop/rock scene altogether.

Kelly Clarkson - Tie It Up
 

Partition

Banned
I can't believe that Miley Cyrus song is smashing.

I've realized the radio-iTunes trends lately... it seems the pop pickings have been so stale and generic that the more successful stuff on radio have been offshoots from other genres (folk, rap, country, alternative) rather than more predictably pop. While a lot of pop songs are doing well regardless (like Miley's) I think the fact that a song like that is doing well shows where pop music is right now. The contemporary formula is being stretched so thin now that it's starting to become obvious to me that these big producers have run out of ideas.

I'm excited to see where the pop queens' releases this year move the trends. I think every single of them can easily smash with a pop song that can just be "okay."

Mhm good obvseration, I was trying to make this point about the radio trends earlier. People actually do seem to be getting tired of generic pop (Rih and Perra better step it up).

And so much for the RnB trend, huh PopGaf? With I Love It, Clarity which keeps climbing up, and Get Lucky, dance still seems to be in.
 
I can't stop listening to Kelly's new country single, "Tie It Up." It makes me genuinely want a full country album from her. Or at the very least a country EP. I could settle with 5ish songs. I feel like this is a side of her we haven't really ever seen, and it's really fun. I could totally get on board with seeing more of it -- as long as she didn't ditch the pop/rock scene altogether.

Kelly Clarkson - Tie It Up
Yes, stan! "Tie It Up" is awesome. I would get the song, but I'm waiting to see if there's an EP of country songs coming out soon from her. I really want a full country album from her, but she said she wouldn't do such a thing, so I'd settle for an EP with less songs.

None. The song its corny and I wanna slap Karmin stupid hairstyle off.
Girl, bye. I guess Cher's "Woman's World" is the best thing ever right? kiiiii
 

Dr. Malik

FlatAss_
This is the top 10 this week

01 Blurred Lines (=) R&B
02 Get Lucky (=) Disco
03 Radioactive (+1) Alternative Rock
04 Cruise (+2) Country
05 We Can't Stop (+22) Pop
06 Can't Hold Us (-3) Hip Hop
07 Mirrors (-2) Pop
08 Treasure (+3) Disco
09 Come & Get It (-1) Electropop
10 Just Give Me A Reason (-3) Pop Ballad

there really isn't one genre that is ruling the charts, its more diversified
 

Weapxn

Mikkelsexual
Yes, stan! "Tie It Up" is awesome. I would get the song, but I'm waiting to see if there's an EP of country songs coming out soon from her. I really want a full country album from her, but she said she wouldn't do such a thing, so I'd settle for an EP with less songs.
I do think she would do such a thing, actually. I think it's just her label holding her back, but hopefully with the release of "Don't Rush" and "Tie It Up," her country award noms, her ever-growing presence at their award shows and music festivals, they're wising up.

She will never smash consistently on the pop charts. Ever. She will always be "the first American Idol," the winner of a TV singing competition, and there's such a stigma around all of that in the pop world. Country seems to embrace all of that though, or they don't care, at least. She would do SO WELL in their part of the industry, and I hope she gets to soon.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Girl, bye. I guess Cher's "Woman's World" is the best thing ever right? kiiiii

Easily better than that corny American Girl song and while WW might sound a bit dated it is still a good song by Cher. None of my faves were there on the video (Pop talk cause I do stan Jane Lynch). I never called it bad but just corny. Still didnt do anything for me so siT and stay seething.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
Omg yas at God Can't Stop at #5. And now with promo and the video it should stick around.

I read fast and read that and now with that porno. SMH

bort would go wild if such thing happens and it would be a fun thread on gaf tho.
 
I can't @ ya'll calling Miley Cyrus urban.

That pop song is the poppiest pop song of all the pop songs. It doesn't even remotely have an R&B/Hip-Hop flavor nor does her vocal style veer that way either. She just put a grill in her mouth and attempted to twerk in front of some black women she hired for the shoot, so no, she's not urban, she's nowhere near it, and we're squashing that notion NAO.
 
I do think she would do such a thing, actually. I think it's just her label holding her back, but hopefully with the release of "Don't Rush" and "Tie It Up," her country award noms, her ever-growing presence at their award shows and music festivals, they're wising up.

She will never smash consistently on the pop charts. Ever. She will always be "the first American Idol," the winner of a TV singing competition, and there's such a stigma around all of that in the pop world. Country seems to embrace all of that though, or they don't care, at least. She would do SO WELL in their part of the industry, and I hope she gets to soon.
I hope she does release a country album. Her country songs so far have been really great, with "Tie It Up" being the best, imo. I could see her releasing one more pop/rock album, and then going even more country after that. I do wonder if she is going to stay at RCA or go to a new label. She said around Stronger's release that she was happy with the people working at her label now, compared to the ones that were there in the past. If she goes country, though, she really doesn't need RCA anymore. She could find some strictly country label to be a part of. Regardless of what happens, I'm here for anything that she wants to do. As long as she keeps making music, I'm happy.

Easily better than that corny American Girl song and while WW might sound a bit dated it is still a good song by Cher. None of my faves were there on the video (Pop talk cause I do stan Jane Lynch). I never called it bad but just corny. Still didnt do anything for me so siT and stay seething.
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That Cher song is basic. "American Girl" is going to slay, and you will be the one siTTing and seeThing. Cher needs to stick to Twitter, where she is more relevant.
 

Trigger

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I can't @ ya'll calling Miley Cyrus urban.

That pop song is the poppiest pop song of all the pop songs. It doesn't even remotely have an R&B/Hip-Hop flavor nor does her vocal style veer that way either. She just put a grill in her mouth and attempted to twerk in front of some black women she hired for the shoot, so no, she's not urban, she's nowhere near it, and we're squashing that notion NAO.

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Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
That Cher song is basic. "American Girl" is going to slay, and you will be the one siTTing and seeThing. Cher needs to stick to Twitter, where she is more relevant.

Hmmm will it succeed cause its a good song or because the music video had tons of cameos? In other words will it be a hit by its own merits or the merits of others?

Still dont see it being a hit and she doesnt has anything against Cher legacy and even Woman's World as basic as it is its more enjoyable than it. (Never called it the best thing ever in any moment so IDK where you coming with that one) If my opinion gets you hurt so much maybe not reading my post would help your hemorroid aches. Get some cream for that and siT
 

botty

Banned
Mariah C. will be performing at the BET awards this sunday....

and also the Beautiful remix is coming....along with other remixes.

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Majmun

Member
Yeezus is defnitely the best album of the year so far.
It's compact and filled with killer beats. And I like how short most of the tracks are.

Amazing album.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
"featuring A$AP Rocky"

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Hopefully this changes the song's fortune, since it's flopping on radio currently.

Hew is he? I've heard the name and seen him but never heard his music (Except him being featured on an unreleased Lana Del Slay song)

Can someone link me to his "big hit"?
 

Trigger

Member
If there's one song released so far this year that wasn't in need of a remix it was #Beautiful. I can't imagine liking anything else more than the original.
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
Hew is he? I've heard the name and seen him but never heard his music (Except him being featured on an unreleased Lana Del Slay song)

Can someone link me to his "big hit"?

He was the opening act of the U.S. Leg of the "Diamonds World Tour". His big song is "Fuckin' Problems (feat. Drake, Kendrick Lamar & 2 Chainz)". If you don't listen to rap, you don't know him, if you've listened to an urban station in the last six months, you've heard this song multiple times.

lmao, I was hoping a remix would add the third chorus this song desperately needs but alas

Same. I hate two-verse, two-chorus songs.

A #beatufil-sized mess.
 
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