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[botty]

And yet even with gaga's massive declines she still manages more than the 'queen of pop'
Perhaps we should do a Godel and go to metacritic, where the 'mediocre' ARTPOP is rater higher than Rihanna's last three albums.

I won't deny that Rih is huge, but she is only queen of singles and radio, and it looks like Katy will snatch that title from her anyway.

I think the facts here have to do with trajectory. Rih is almost a decade in and still getting #1s and decent album numbers, while Gaga is already showing signs of a strong decline. Can't even compete with Katy for radio.

I mean, I am sure this doesn't matter to her stans since they will still be here for her when they don't have the receipts to stan for. I'm sure.

 

[Cynosure]

and $100 million tour is cute, try $200 M tho
I mean you are basically applauding Rihanna for finally achieving what her other peers have already done

+ none of Rihanna's last 4 albums even reached 7 million WW. TTT and Unapologetic barely sold above a million in the US.
Rihanna will never be competition to Gaga
only Katy, Beyonce and Legend X are.

 

[Yado]

Rihanna just needs more time. Some people said she'd never get a #1 album in the US and she did it on her 7th try.

 

[Artemisia]

+ none of Rihanna's last 4 albums even reached 7 million WW. TTT and Unapologetic barely sold above a million in the US.
Rihanna will never be competition to Gaga
only Katy, Beyonce and Legend X are.

Why is 7 million a significant number? Sounds to me like it's completely arbitrary and you are using it just to exclude Rihanna.

 

[Matt_]

I think the facts here have to do with trajectory. Rih is almost a decade in and still getting #1s and decent album numbers, while Gaga is already showing signs of a strong decline. Can't even compete with Katy for radio.

I mean, I am sure this doesn't matter to her stans since they will still be here for her when they don't have the receipts to stan for. I'm sure.

All this trajectory talk just proves how small Rihanna was to Gaga, and still is. Despite all these strong declines Rihanna still won't be able to pull in the album numbers, still wont be able to pull in similar tour receipts and even though she is the supposed queen of radio and racking up all the number #1, she still hasn't had a song that has outsold Born This Way.

You can proclaim Rih to be the queen when Gaga declines under her level. But until that day comes she can remain a lady in waiting along with the others.

 

[Dr. Malik]

now girls have yall seen the new plug.dj

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I sense a new era coming

 

[Matt_]

Atrl? I feel tricked and dirty.

 

[Cynosure]

Why is 7 million a significant number? Sounds to me like it's completely arbitrary and you are using it just to exclude Rihanna.

Gaga's decline is real but her level is still higher than Rihanna's

We'll see how ARTPOP sells. If she can't get to 7 million like she did with BTW, then what does she have left when her singles are flopping

you're using that number to suggest that Gaga could possibly be below Rihana's level, a number Rihanna failed to reach with her last 4 albums.

 

[Artemisia]

you're using that number to suggest that Gaga could possibly be below Rihana's level, a number Rihanna failed to reach with her last 4 albums.

BTW sold 7 million sis, that's why I used it.

If she gets to 4 or 5 million, she won't be that much higher than Rihanna anymore, while still putting out flop singles.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Rihanna releases better music than Gaga. That's enough, for me, to give her the crown.

 

[Y2Kev]

Rihanna also cultures new and undiscovered organisms in her vagina so there's that in her column.

Rihanna
+Biologist

Gaga
+4 incredible albums that raise the bar for humanity

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Rihanna also cultures new and undiscovered organisms in her vagina so there's that in her column.

Rihanna
+Biologist

Gaga
+4 incredible albums that raise the bar for humanity

I think you have Rihanna mixed up with Taylor Swift. Gaga is trash.

 

[botty]

Rihanna releases better music than Gaga. That's enough, for me, to give her the crown.

I guess we're done here.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

I guess we're done here.

Glad we agree.

 

[Kyon]

Glad we agree.

Never thought I'd see the day.

Who else but The Black Madonna

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Never thought I'd see the day.

I assumed we were being sarcastic... No?

Who else but The Black Madonna

Who else is there?

 

[Styles]

oops

 

[Artemisia]

oops

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

oops

Spoiler

I love ARTPOP too tho

 

[SaintZ]

oops

I don't stan for either of them but... 9 critcs vs 23...

 

[Styles]

I don't stan for either of them but... 9 critcs vs 23...

I believe RED stood at 81 when it had 11 reviews.

Anyway, how many copies will Avril debut with?

 

[You Know Nothing]

Did I seriously just read Mau saying that Stars Dance and Bangerz are better than ARTPOP?

I fucking cannot.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Did I seriously just read Mau saying that Stars Dance and Bangerz are better than ARTPOP?

I fucking cannot.

I haven't heard either, but I believe it.

 

[Fey]

ngl I use Adore You more than anything on ARTPOP

 

[Y2Kev]

I like Swine

I'm gonna be honest....I like everything except Aura and that awful J&D song. Dope is ok, but obviously I don't want to bop to it in the middle of a pop album as good as this one.

 

[Trigger]

I know ARTPOP isn't for everyone, but Floperz isn't that great an album at all. Maybe 3-4 usable tracks.

 

[botty]

ngl I use Adore You more than anything on ARTPOP

 

[Kyon]

Did I seriously just read Mau saying that Stars Dance and Bangerz are better than ARTPOP?

I fucking cannot.

But waiT


That wouldn't be a lie tho considering Adore you alone is better than ARTPOP

EDIT: what kind of in sync...

 

[Fey]

But waiT


That wouldn't be a lie tho considering Adore you alone is better than ARTPOP


EDIT: what kind of in sync...

O

 

[Y2Kev]

I am so fab. I am blonde, I'm rich, I'm skinny, and I'm a little bit of a bitch.

#icannot

 

[royalan]

I also think Bangerz is a much better (and, strangely, much BOLDER) album than ARTPOP.

That Bluegrass/Trap/Pop fusion Miley goes for is infinitely more interesting (and fun) than anything found on ARTPOP.

And this is coming from someone who actually likes ARTPOP. But still, tea is tea.

 

[botty]

I am so fab. I am blonde, I'm rich, I'm skinny, and I'm a little bit of a bitch.

#icannot

Your tastes have been redeemed.

 

[twobear]

Gaga
+4 incredible albums that raise the bar for humanity

Is this a Katy Perry kind of thing where she released albums before she got famous

 

[You Know Nothing]

I like Swine

I'm gonna be honest....I like everything except Aura and that awful J&D song. Dope is ok, but obviously I don't want to bop to it in the middle of a pop album as good as this one.

Can you change my username to Mary Jane Holland?

I don't care for Aura nearly as much as I once did.

 

[Kyon]

ARTPOP is not a bad album and it's Gaga's final return to form. I don't even hate it

But it's fucking FORGETTABLE.

I always go back to BANGERZ

Adore You, SMS, WCS, My Darlin, Drive, Wrecking Ball, Maybe You're Right, Someone Else.

All solid.

 

[Yado]

These blasphemous opinions.

 

[Styles]

G.U.Y
ARTPOP
Sexx Dreams
MANiCURE
Gypsy

All I need form ARTPOP. They should all be singles at some point down the line.

 

[Mau ®]

Bangerz, too, is better than ARTPOP.

And you can tell from TRACK 1

 

[Artemisia]

ARTPOP is forgettable tbh. Nothing makes you want to come back and listen to it again. And it's long ass running time doesn't help either.

 

[Kyon]

ARTPOP is forgettable tbh. Nothing makes you want to come back and listen to it again. And it's long ass running time doesn't help either.

We finally agree on something

 

[Styles]

ARTPOP is forgettable tbh. Nothing makes you want to come back and listen to it again. And it's long ass running time doesn't help either.

Not a SINGLE song inspires another listen?

 

[Trigger]

These blasphemous opinions.

.

 

[Yado]

Am I witnessing Xaoslug's prophecy pertaining to the abandonment of ARTPOP?
Will Christina rise?

 

[Artemisia]

Not a SINGLE song inspires another listen?

I listen to GUY on repeat often, and sometimes Sex Dreams. That's about it RIP.

 

[Nemesis_]

Am I witnessing Xaoslug's prophecy pertaining to the abandonment of ARTPOP?
Will Christina rise?

Truly revolting.

 

[Fey]

O @ Danja not being on Britney Jean.

 

[Kyon]

O @ Danja not being on Britney Jean.

The album is not urban anymore. It took the personal route.

Well at least she had fun recording the album.

Maybe next album

 

[You Know Nothing]

Am I witnessing Xaoslug's prophecy pertaining to the abandonment of ARTPOP?
Will Christina rise?

Sis, there's a difference between a prophecy being fulfilled thanks to the real world probability of something happening and one fueled by utter delusion with no real world basis.

Guess which is which.

 

[Fey]

The album is not urban anymore. It took the personal route.

Well at least she had fun recording the album.

Maybe next album.

Yeah. It doesn't seem like he'd really fit for the sound they seem to be going for now. Oh well.

 

[Kyon]

Yeah. It doesn't seem like he'd really fit for the sound they seem to be going for now. Oh well.

I'm happy with this new direction they're going with