Lol weren't you sporting a Gaga avi yesterday? What kind of backtracking mess.
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Lol weren't you sporting a Gaga avi yesterday? What kind of backtracking mess.
Nemesis_
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like you can talk HEARTBEAT
I see you're pressed. Keep it coming.
paperheart
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Poker Face
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I've repented for my sins. When will you?
I never stan Gaga and I dropped Jessie J faster than you dropped your avi. I repented already.
I'd rather listen to a good album like "The Fame Monster"
Trouble still a good album tho. I don't deny TFM being good.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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But I thought we left Gaga in OT8? Her subtle impact and showcase of lasting power?
Tbh, Gaga has room to mess up. She isn't over at even the slightest. At the end of the day, she still pulls headlines being bad, she still can book huge events and still has that sort of relevance that at this point makes her a household name. People may not be buying her brand in droves, but being talked about constantly is probably why she will still be able to recuperate and bounce back.
I just can't spell doom for someone as big as Gaga. The GP may not have been *here* at the moment for Gags but she isn't out of fresh bold ideas that with some help, can take her very far. As it is, she has to battle with time and execution. If she can find a way to collaborate both and make them once again memorable as she did in her previous eras, she'll be fine.
Tbh, Gaga has room to mess up. She isn't over at even the slightest. At the end of the day, she still pulls headlines being bad, she still can book huge events and still has that sort of relevance that at this point makes her a household name. People may not be buying her brand in droves, but being talked about constantly is probably why she will still be able to recuperate and bounce back.
I just can't spell doom for someone as big as Gaga. The GP may not have been *here* at the moment for Gags but she isn't out of fresh bold ideas that with some help, can take her very far. As it is, she has to battle with time and execution. If she can find a way to collaborate both and make them once again memorable as she did in her previous eras, she'll be fine.
Nemesis_
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Niece if we can bring Christina Aguilera up at every twist and turn of the precedings then we can bring Gaga up >_>
paperheart
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And, yet you still stay stanning Natalia Kills.
Just because she flopped on sales it doesnt change the fact the album shits on Artpop.
I don't think ARTPOP is better than BTW. Or at least, while I understand that you might prefer some of the mood and vibe of ARTPOP, I don't think anybody can sensibly claim that ARTPOP has the same level of polish or quality of execution as BTW (of course in this regard TFM is miles ahead of both of them).
She might not be creatively bankrupt—it's too early to make that call seriously. But there's been no clear creative threads in ARTPOP and I think it's legitimate to wonder whether it's because she doesn't have one. And certainly from this point of view her 'fallen angel that everyone wanted to make money with' sob-story that she's adopted recently isn't doing her any favours. She was the one thirsty for breaking records with her popularity, regardless of what people behind the scenes might claim. And what made Gaga interesting in the past was her Madonna-like knack for just being a pop star. So for her to push some kind of 'underground pop star' angle now is just poorly conceived.
But I do agree with everyone that's said that she needs to surround herself with people who can get things done, and she also needs to not see that as a problem (I suspect that at the moment she thinks that 'true artists' do everything themselves, which is nonsense). There's a reason that Brian Epstein and George Martin are usually considered honorary members of The Beatles.
[edit] Oh and it's obvious to anyone with functioning ears that Trouble is better than ARTPOP, you can all stay bothered.
Wafflecakes
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That needed to be a 4 minute video, all Venus, same location, different concept.
Oh I guess you didn't find the Bey shade yet
Supermanisdead
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omg
can the ot title be "Gaga, you a busta"
can the ot title be "Gaga, you a busta"
Will Mariah's new album launch during this thread?
awesome op btw
From your lips to God's ears tbh.
I wish Gaga stopped directing her stuff, I wouldn't want her become the Uwe Boll of music videos.
But hey, at least we got an ambitious, big-budget video, which is a rarity nowadays.
But hey, at least we got an ambitious, big-budget video, which is a rarity nowadays.
Pointless trivia: Uwe Boll actually directed a music video once. And guess what? It was awful.
Soulscribe
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Narrow-minded
Tropico is Tropico, ARTPOP is ARTPOP. One is understated and elegant because that's who the artist is, the other is vivacious and commercial because that's who the artist is. Sigh
Tropico is Tropico, ARTPOP is ARTPOP. One is understated and elegant because that's who the artist is, the other is vivacious and commercial because that's who the artist is. Sigh
I'm going to remind you of this post the next time you try to argue that Gaga does what she does because she's niche and doesn't care about the charts, sis. *.*
Soulscribe
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There's a difference between wanting to have a number one song and wanting to be relevant in pop culture, diva. Gaga's gone from wanting both to really just wanting the latter, but that can easily change next cycle.
Ornacia>>>Vivacious
ARTPOP is not better than BTW, not even close.
BTW is a solid body of work, it is cohesive and sounds like a complete album, because it is. It lacks the amount of filler that ARTPOP has, and has twice as many standout tracks.
I also disagree on the production of ARTPOP being better. ARTPOP is her worst produced album, imo. ARTPOP production may sound more simplified and "tighter", but it also sounds very uninspired and lazy. There are only a few tracks I would commend for their production, those being Applause, Venus, and Fashon!. It doesn't come close to BTW's level of creativity and sophistication (Born This Way, Scheiße, Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, Electric Chapel, Edge of Glory).
BTW is a solid body of work, it is cohesive and sounds like a complete album, because it is. It lacks the amount of filler that ARTPOP has, and has twice as many standout tracks.
I also disagree on the production of ARTPOP being better. ARTPOP is her worst produced album, imo. ARTPOP production may sound more simplified and "tighter", but it also sounds very uninspired and lazy. There are only a few tracks I would commend for their production, those being Applause, Venus, and Fashon!. It doesn't come close to BTW's level of creativity and sophistication (Born This Way, Scheiße, Bloody Mary, Heavy Metal Lover, Electric Chapel, Edge of Glory).
Guys.... Britney's looking more and more like her old self as this Vegas show goes on. I get the feeling her next era may slay us out the park. 
Soulscribe
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I think it's coz Born This Way's production is very 80s inspired, which isn't commonplace today. ARTPOP's production is obviously meant to be current so it's easier to say it's less inspired or interesting, coz we hear that type of sound a lot today.
I agree that Born This Way is a better body of work, but I can see ARTPOP being that underrated dark horse album of her career once all is said and done.
Guys.... Britney's looking more and more like her old self as this Vegas show goes on. I get the feeling her next era may slay us out the park.
Sis, there won't be a next era after. At least, not for a long time.
Britney has hinted at the fact that she done with music for a LONG time when this residency is done.
Soulscribe
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Now why'd she have to go and set that goal? SMH
Is it her that said that or just the site?
Well it depends on the axes on which you value it, like I said. You can prefer the vibe, or mood or what-have-you. But I don't really think that you can say that ARTPOP is better made, or polished, or written (etc.) than BTW. Nothing on BTW is as egregiously half-baked as Swine or as clumsy as Applause or as disjointed as Venus, even if the high points of the album (ARTPOP, Aura, MJH) sound as good as the best stuff on BTW.
Soulscribe
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She didn't. I think it's just the fans that are doing that
I suppose I can agree with this. Although I also agree with Cory in that the lows on BTW are MUCH lower.
I think I appreciate ARTPOP for the spirit more than the polish. There is an unfinished quality, but still, for a brief moment ARTPOP allows me to close my eyes and remember the fierce-ass bitch who stomped onto the scene in 2008.
But then I open my eyes and see the pathetic mess she's turned into...
LittleMonsters.com is doing it. It was in a newsletter they sent out right after the video premiered.
I stand by my belief that "funner" should be a word. And I'll keep using it until it becomes one, GAWDdamnit.
This review of ARTPOP is basically spot on.
Well as I said before, I think stuff like ARTPOP is among the best songs she's ever put out. Similarly Swine is absolutely fantastic right up until it swerves off the track right into a flaming wreck 1:20 in.
There are snippets of pure pop brilliance on ARTPOP, which is why, for me, the shoddiness and frequent laziness of the way the whole thing is put together is all the more disappointing.
Well as I said before, I think stuff like ARTPOP is among the best songs she's ever put out. Similarly Swine is absolutely fantastic right up until it swerves off the track right into a flaming wreck 1:20 in.
There are snippets of pure pop brilliance on ARTPOP, which is why, for me, the shoddiness and frequent laziness of the way the whole thing is put together is all the more disappointing.
Booty Patrol
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How is GUY the best video since TFM era when Judas exists?
..... or Applause for that matter, which is severely underrated. It's tightly edited and beautifully shot.
I also disagree. None of the BTW tracks are as bad as Swine or Donatella. People only like to believe otherwise because of the lyrical content.
Critics flock to an album that plays at "cohesion." This is nothing new.
Artpop has those low reviews because BTW ruined all the good will she had left with the public/reviewers. It's BTW's fault.
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