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[Chrono]

So what games you bought expecting a breath taking experience only to trade them back in the next day?


My list...

- REmake + RE Zero.

I couldn't handle the camera. I tried, but after re-starting the game a few times and playing the first 10 minutes over and over, I decided to forget about it. RE4 is on my top 3 Gamecube games though, up there with Wind Waker and Metroid Prime.


- Devil May Cry.

Again, the camera sucks. Action rocked when I can see what was going on, but looking at my back log I decided it wasn't worth it. I'm going to check out DMC3 though since I heard the camera is better (and especially now that I'm experiencing button-mashing God of War, I'd like to see a really 'deep' fighting system as they're calling it).


- Ace Combat 4.

I spent my entire hour or so wrestling with the aircraft to follow the arrow in front of me (like a flying tank!) and maybe getting lucky and hitting something. I heard it's more like an arcade game but It's just way too much of a simulator for my liking.

 

[keeblerdrow]

Metal Gear Solid games.
Gran Turismo games.
Madden.

 

[siege]

Wind Waker
Halo 1/2
Grand Theft Auto series
Morrowind
Baldurs Gate/Icewind Dale/Fallout and every other crappy CRPG aside from P:Torment
God of War

 

[demi]

katamari damacy

 

[Striek]

Wind Waker
Metroid Prime

 

[impirius]

Gran Turismo series: I guess I just don't have enough patience to relearn how to make a car go around a curve. I respect why lots of other people like the series, but it's just not for me.

 

[Joe]

any and all turn-based rpg's. i always try though and ill try again next-gen.

 

[Teddman]

OK guys, give reasons, not just a list... Otherwise this thread won't reach its full bash-fest potential.

Splinter Cell: The atmosphere and core gameplay is fun, but I couldn't stand the tedious trial-and-error pattern the sparsely placed checkpoints forced you to adopt. I can see playing the first two games only if they were the PC versions with quicksave. Thankfully the console releases of Chaos Theory also have save anywhere ability.

 

[Papi]

Halo: Boring. Generic. Boring.
GTA: Boring.
PoP: Shit camera.
Ninja Gaiden: Boring.

 

[SentientStone]

Grand Theft Auto
Gran Turismo (maybe I'll start enjoying it more after I spent more time with it)

 

[Kleegamefan]

Another vote for Splinter Cell....

Good and enjoyable game, but as good as MGS (let alone better?)

Lets just say, I feel Splinter Cell PALES in comparison to Metal Gear...this is just my opinion...



Oh, and another one would be Tony Hawk.....could never get into those games.....perhaps because I am more into the SSX games (I know, its not the same as skateboarding) and prefer the trick system of SSX to TH.....again, thats just me....

 

[Do The Mario]

Crimson skies – the graphics are meh for a start, the missions are repetitive and lack intensity, the story is tripe, The locations boring.

 

[Ristamar]

Tekken series (disclaimer: I haven't played Tekken 5 yet) -- It was never fun for me. In the earlier years the controls always felt stiff and limited, IMO, and as the series progressed, the other popular 3D fighting franchises were notably better (Virtua Fighter, Soul Edge/Soul Calibur).

Mortal Kombat series -- MK 1 was pure garbage. MK 2 I somewhat enjoyed. Everything after that was average, at best, some of it being downright atrocious. The current-gen MKs are passable, but I still wonder how they sold so many copies.

Gran Turismo series -- I'm not a car entusiast, and doing a million goddamn laps never felt very exciting. A big thumbs down to the lack of any sort of damage modeling. That being said, I'm trying to keep an open mind, and I'm going to give GT4 an honest shake.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Splinter Cell

I gave the XBox demo of the first game a solid half hour and left wondering what the fuck was so fun about it. Akward, not fun and dull. It was back to Halo after that bore-fest.

Sports game. Nothing to say really, just don't like'em.

Final Fantasy - I find the entire art design of these games utterly uninteresting, even ugly. Each game just screams pretension.

 

[gogogow]

Halo
Splintercell

 

[Ash Housewares]

Final Fantasy
Halo
Metroid Prime

for the first two I just don't understand what is supposed to make them unique I find them boring and generic, and for MP, bleh, it's fp but not a fps and I hate the controls, the gameplay, the... well I hate everything about it

 

[blackadde]

Goldeneye (64) and Halo.

I was a pretty avid Quake 2 CTF and TFC player so I never understood why these took off as well as they did, especially for their multiplayer aspects. Especially especially given Halo map designs.

 

[MattKeil]

Gran Turismo - I've always found the series to emphasis breadth over depth. GT2 was a travesty, and one of the ugliest games on the PSone. GT4 is quite the opposite, but still doesn't really do much for me. Yeah, 600+ cars, of which most people will use what, 30? How many versions of a Corolla do I need in one title, anyway? At least they've finally moved away from including stuff like minivans. "Whoo, it's totally like I'm really driving a Ford Aerostar! Real Driving Simulator!" The ridiculous ping-ponging off other cars and walls, using one sound for screeching tires for multiple games, and they still refuse to put the great Japanese theme song in the opening movie for the US version. Blech.

Devil May Cry - As mentioned above, the camera has always sucked. I was never a big fan of the enemy designs, either, and most of the boss fights fall into the "here's a big thing that breaks the rules of the rest of the combat to be hard" category. I like Dante as a character, and the storyline's interesting, but I just could never stick with it for very long. DMC3 was an improvement, but I was sidetracked pretty quickly by other stuff.

Final Fantasy - Particularly FF7, which is still one of the most strikingly average RPGs I've ever played. Preachy themes, awful writing, simplistic combat system...thank God the FFT guys are getting a shot at it with FFXII. I still rank FF7 higher than FFX, though, which is the only FF game I wasn't able to finish. I don't think I've ever been more bored by an RPG.

Xenogears - Speaking of bored. The hand-to-hand combat system was pretty great, and it boasts one of the top five soundtracks ever, but just about everything else blows, IMO. Cool concepts here and there, but it all bogs down in the braindead gear combat and endlessly droning cutscenes that meander on about nothing particularly interesting and a story that's so convoluted people seem to have convinced themselves it was "deep" (a la Evangelion). Then the hilarious "we obviously ran out of time and money" second disc, consisting of a handful of dungeons with no context other than that provided by narrating characters sitting in a chair in the middle of nowhere. It may sound odd, but I think I would have liked Xenogears twice as much if it had just included a goddamned text speed option.

Tekken - Why people prefer this over VF in any form is an absolute mystery to me, especially given VF4's bargain pricing on PS2. It's like some crazy restaurant where the filet mignon is $19 but everyone keeps ordering the $50 cheeseburger.

Deus Ex - Yeah, I don't get it. It's like a shooter, but really slow, really dull, and my super-powered secret cyborg agent starts the game unable to shoot a gun straight. No thanks.

Donkey Kong Country - This series always seemed to be a horrifically repetitive and mind-numbingly simplistic rehash of platforming elements that had been done a dozen times better in previous Nintendo and Sega games, but everyone went around kissing Diddy Kong's ass in the early '90s like he was Bono or something. I couldn't stand the plastic look, either.

C'mon, let's see some more sacred cows slain in here!

 

[radios shipping overview]

God of War: musclebound Mortal Kombat refugee stars in easy game and kills and fucks a lot. ???
DMC: didn't find it fun at all. Too many survival-horror design artifacts and gameplay wasn't interesting.
SCEA character-based walkabouts: Sorry, interest not found. Weak mechanics, barely-there gameplay, characters that don't appeal to me.
Mario post-SNES, Sonic post-Genesis: ditto.

popular on interweb forums if not in general:
Tales series: argh argh argh why are people still playing these? Everything I'm sick of in RPGs distilled into deadly quantities.
Nippon Ichi games - Tried to like these, failed. Don't like the abstract mechanics or levelgrinding.

Those are what I can think of - there's a ton of qualifying stuff that I filter out every day and so wouldn't think to mention.

 

[ram]

HALO 1 / 2 - just below average 3d shooters. i dont get all the hype around these games.

 

[Attack You]

Splinter Cell (I don't get it.) - I like what it is, but it's just too damned slow. Would be tolerable if MGS2/3 didn't exist. (Note: I haven't played SC2 or SC3.)

American Football (I don't like it.) - Just not a fan of how their gameplay is designed anymore. Give me Football Frenzy and leave me the fuck alone.

 

[johnjohnson]

there are too many, but I'll mention the most popular ones:

- Metroid Prime : booooooooring. visit the same rooms a thousand times, kill the same brainless monsters a thousand times, return to the same rooms a thousand times again to look for scannables you missed or for areas inaccessible without the proper upgrades. Just boring backtracking.

- Resident Evil < 4, Onimusha 1 & 2: the controls are awkward.

- Resident Evil 4 and Onimusha 3: just because I disliked the predecessors so much.

- Grand Theft Auto everything: I don't understand what's so great about these games.

- Dark Chronicle: random dungeons are the worst invention ever. Well, maybe escort missions are worse.

 

[demi]

OK guys, give reasons, not just a list... Otherwise this thread won't reach its full bash-fest potential.

katamari damacy: controls suck, graphics suck, the whole concept is fucktarded what is wrong with you people

 

[johnjohnson]

katamari damacy: controls suck, graphics suck, the whole concept is fucktarded what is wrong with you people

I agree with you.l But you have to admit that the music is awesome!

 

[Rorschach]

Your favorite game. That game suuucked bawls.

 

[Sea-Dragon]

I can see the flames from here... I can imagine many toes stepped on with this thread.

Morrowind - I've never felt more like I was "playing a video game" than with the combat in Morrowind, nor that I was "providing a variable for a spreadsheet" with the dialogue.

any ATB system - Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VII. Just seems like a cheap halfway mechanism to me, a half-assed attempt to marry a real-time system with a menu structure. If you're going to go real-time, don't do it on the cheap - give it a phantasia vibe or a star ocean feel. I still won't play it, but at least you're keeping it real. Otherwise, I'd rather play Final Fantasy X, Dragon Warrior VII, any (blessed) Suikoden, or Xenogears for the true turn based combat.

 

[Attack You]

Gran Turismo - I've always found the series to emphasis breadth over depth. GT2 was a travesty, and one of the ugliest games on the PSone. GT4 is quite the opposite, but still doesn't really do much for me. Yeah, 600+ cars, of which most people will use what, 30? How many versions of a Corolla do I need in one title, anyway? At least they've finally moved away from including stuff like minivans. "Whoo, it's totally like I'm really driving a Ford Aerostar! Real Driving Simulator!" The ridiculous ping-ponging off other cars and walls, using one sound for screeching tires for multiple games, and they still refuse to put the great Japanese theme song in the opening movie for the US version. Blech.

I played the ever-living hell out of my Japanese import Gran Turismo 1. When the U.S. version hit, I was disappointed with the music changes and didn't bother buying the game. Skipped GT2. Tried GT3, and still found myself disgusted with the music. Skipping GT4. The original soundtrack gave the game a sense of class, IMO, and really sold it as a "driving, not racing" game. I could never regain that feeling with the licensed soundtracks, because there was seemingly no real direction with them. I risk sounding elitist, but I want my "driving" music back.

Is the Japanese Gran Turismo still using "Moon Over The Castle"? Man, what a great theme.

 

[DKJB79]

- GTA : ugly and boring
- Halo : never understood the hype
- EA softs : nice in general but no depth and boring

 

[Finaika]

Treasure games - GAFs and some ppl I know always go like "OMG a Treasure game!!!!". Yeah their games are good but I just don't understand the hype or worship they're getting.

 

[AniHawk]

Any sim racer. Actually, PGR 2 was entertaining for a short while, but that could be in part because I didn't have to pay much for it.

Metroid Prime: simply unfun.

 

[miyuru]

Deus Ex - Yeah, I don't get it. It's like a shooter, but really slow, really dull, and my super-powered secret cyborg agent starts the game unable to shoot a gun straight. No thanks.

Just curious, how far in did you get? IMO past the first level, the game really really really starts to pick up, and once you get to Hong Kong, it'll be your game of the century.

 

[demi]

I agree with you.l But you have to admit that the music is awesome!

i'm afraid the music made it worse, i could not play this game in front of friends it was so embarrasing.

but hey whatever floats your boat, i'm not one to pick on people for their music tastes, you like it hey that's cool.

 

[Kuroyume]

The bitching about Splinter Cell, a STEALTH GAME, being slow is utterly retarded. :lol Yeah, lets do stealth with Sam blazing through a mission with a rocket launcher. :lol

Anyway my choices:

Katamari Damacy: amusing for maybe 20 minutes

GRAN TOURISMO/SIM RACING IN GENERAL: more like GRAN BORISMO... I am amazed that people really get fun out of this.

RATCHET AND CLANK/JAK 3: GUNS and Platforming = BORING. Bring platform games back to the basics: collecting shit and jumping

 

[D-X]

FPS, FIFA

 

[gogogow]

The bitching about Splinter Cell, a STEALTH GAME, being slow is utterly retarded. :lol Yeah, lets do stealth with Sam blazing through a mission with a rocket launcher. :lol

Shotgun in SC:CT

 

[Ash Housewares]

katamari damacy: controls suck, graphics suck, the whole concept is fucktarded what is wrong with you people

but it's only $20!

 

[demi]

you get what you pay for then

*plays phantom dust*

 

[GhaleonEB]

The bitching about Splinter Cell, a STEALTH GAME, being slow is utterly retarded. :lol Yeah, lets do stealth with Sam blazing through a mission with a rocket launcher. :lol

The entire premise is what gets me. It's like they designed a game with lots of exciting situations and then made it so you have to AVOID all of them. Boooooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnngggg.

 

[bobbyconover]

i'm afraid the music made it worse, i could not play this game in front of friends it was so embarrasing.

but hey whatever floats your boat, i'm not one to pick on people for their music tastes, you like it hey that's cool.

I'm so glad your friends aren't my friends.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Final Fantasy - Particularly FF7, which is still one of the most strikingly average RPGs I've ever played. Preachy themes, awful writing, simplistic combat system...thank God the FFT guys are getting a shot at it with FFXII. I still rank FF7 higher than FFX, though, which is the only FF game I wasn't able to finish. I don't think I've ever been more bored by an RPG.

FFVII - Wow...I'm so glad I'm not alone here. FFVII is BY FAR THE MOST OVERRATED GAME IN HISTORY. There I said it. It's a good game sure but it's not 1/10 as good as most people make it out to be. FFVII was what killed the turn-based RPG genre for me.

Halo - Something about the controls really bothers me. I can't put my finger on it. That and as others have said it's really just another FPS...I don't see what distinguishes it from others.

Legend of Zelda: OoT - I love OoT...However this also falls in the same category as FFVII...

Most every sports game - I don't want to sit on my ass in the dark playing a sport when I can go outside and actually play a sport. I play games to escape reality not do the same thing I could be doing outside but with the added bonus of becoming a fat ass with carpal tunnel. The exceptions to this are sports I'm not actually good at (skating, snowboarding, etc.)

THAT STEAMING PILE KNOWN AS MADDEN - This has all the downsides of "most sports games" but also has the dubious honor of having the biggest retard in professional sportscasting associated with it. "Wull...wull...wull...If the quarterback throws the ball a...a...a...and the receiver catches the ball then they'll be in a better position for a touchdown." NO SHIT! "Wull...wull...wull...it's 4th down with 5 yards to go...The Lions need to get themselves a first down or they risk a turnover." YOU DON'T SAY!?

OK that's all I can think of at the moment. Damn you bastards for liking those games as much as you do! *shakes fist menacingly*

 

[iapetus]

Halo. Can't stand modern FPS titles - it's all been downhill since Doom.

Panzer Dragoon Saga. The very definition of a mediocre RPG, and yet people spooge all over it. Why?

 

[Attack You]

The bitching about Splinter Cell, a STEALTH GAME, being slow is utterly retarded. :lol Yeah, lets do stealth with Sam blazing through a mission with a rocket launcher. :lol

To think "stealth" equates to "slow" is even more, ironically, retarded.

 

[Coop]

Gran Turismo
Resident Evil
Any turn based RPG
Metroid Prime

 

[MrPing1000]

Viewtiful Joe

 

[Bebpo]

Halo 2 online: I enjoyed the SP a lot, but I dunno I've outgrown online deathmatching. I guess I need some percievable long term goal like "beat game" or I just feel like I'm wasting hours of my life doing the same "shoot and kill the people you see" over and over again online. At least with stuff like Phantom Dust online I felt their was a purpose as winning netted you more cards to your total collection which let you create new playing strategies, but Halo 2 online just felt like the same thing every game.

Crimson Skies online: Same thing but with really shallow gameplay, very few levels, and meh 30fps graphics. It was fun for a day but after that the online was boring.

Ratchet and Clank: I loved Jak 1 & 2 because when you take away the punching/shooting they both had excellent hardcore platforming bits and I'm a huge platformer nut. I tried R&C1 and while the action was nice, I couldn't stand the floaty jumping and the platforming was really not fun IMO. Never played 2 or 3 because of that.

50% of Treasure games: I love Guardian Heroes, Gunstar Heroes, and Bangio-OH + Gradius V are two of my favorite games ever. But Ikaruga wore off on me quickly, Advanced Guardian Heroes never really clicked with me, and from the 20 minutes I spent with Astroboy GBA I couldn't understand the praise for a game that runs entirely in slow-motion (kinda like AGH!). Dunno, I think Treasure can rock at times but at other times I think they can be overhyped average games.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Halo. Can't stand modern FPS titles - it's all been downhill since Doom.

Panzer Dragoon Saga. The very definition of a mediocre RPG, and yet people spooge all over it. Why?

Who...my top two games of all time.

Time to fire up that ignore option again.

*edit*

Fuck! Can't ignore a mod.

 

[Chiggs]

To think "stealth" equates to "slow" is even more, ironically, retarded.

Last I checked, most stealth games don't feature the protagonist flying 60,000 feet off the ground in top secret aircraft.

Maybe they should, though.

 

[Chiggs]

Metroid Prime series
Windwaker
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
God of War
KoToR series
Jade Empire
Prince of Persia


Comedy Option: Psychonauts - Overrated, arty cult classic, with some of the most annoying fans EVAR.

 

[shpankey]

Anything Mario. Never ever got it. Always thought it sucked.

Grand Theft Auto series. Just... dumb.

Metroid Prime series. Dear Lord, just what the fuck? I still to this day am blown away anyone could even remotely like this shit.

Metal Gear Solid series. - overrated w/ poor play mechanics. story and presentation is cool though, but i'd rather see a movie that does that even better.

Chronicles of Riddick on Xbox. - complete and total ass. This generations 2nd most overrated game just under Metroid Prime.

Pikmin. - boring

Super Monkey Ball - fucking stupid.

Viewtiful joe - i.will.never.understand.the.love.for.this.shit

Katamari Damacy - give me my time back.

Rainbow Six on Xbox - shit control

Timesplitters series - even more shitty control, added with shit everything else.

 

[MrPing1000]

Calm down dear its only a post on a message board