Possible PS5 leak info

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It's all good and powerful but i'm still curious about the power\heat management in a compact size. That gotta be a big challenge, isn't it?
 
kaylord said:
Sony May Be Planning a PlayStation Controller with a Screen!
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/11/sony_may_be_planning_a_playstation_controller_with_a_screen
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I looked and didn't see a screen mentioned anywhere.
Interestingly the Touch Bar got moved under the sticks though (26)
(22) is also interesting as that is a 3D control bar, the bottom of the controller features that same thing as well. (I'm guessing it is all VR related).
Microphones are also mentioned in the patent for detecting sound, not sure if that is just VR related or if the controller can be used to talk to others.

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bitbydeath said:
I looked and didn't see a screen mentioned anywhere.
Interestingly the Touch Bar got moved under the sticks though (26)
(22) is also interesting as that is a 3D control bar, the bottom of the controller features that same thing as well. (I'm guessing it is all VR related).
Microphones are also mentioned in the patent for detecting sound, not sure if that is just VR related or if the controller can be used to talk to others.

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Touchbar under the stick look weird to me

Just stick with ds4 design if they want to keep it
 
Monsterkillah said:
Touchbar under the stick look weird to me

Just stick with ds4 design if they want to keep it
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I guess it'd be easier to access though as you don't need to shift your hands from the controller sides to make use of it.
Who knows if this would be the final design though, they probably submit a heap of these.
 
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bitbydeath said:
I looked and didn't see a screen mentioned anywhere.
Interestingly the Touch Bar got moved under the sticks though (26)
(22) is also interesting as that is a 3D control bar, the bottom of the controller features that same thing as well. (I'm guessing it is all VR related).
Microphones are also mentioned in the patent for detecting sound, not sure if that is just VR related or if the controller can be used to talk to others.

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A controller for interfacing wirelessly with a computing device is provided, including the following: a housing defined by a main body, a first extension extending from a first end of the main body, and a second extension extending from a second end of the main body, the first extension and the second extension for holding by a first hand and a second hand of a user, respectively; a touchscreen defined along the top surface of the main body between the first extension and the second extension; a first set of buttons disposed on the top surface of the main body proximate to the first extension and on a first side of the touchscreen; and a second set of buttons disposed on the top surface of the main body proximate to the second extension and on a second side of the touchscreen."
 
TLZ said:
But that's a leak from April. It doesn't mean it's real :p
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Yeah when i read 32gddr6 i got overexcited that i didnt realize it was the old april hoax, it kinda reminded me of the 8gb gddr5 announcement
I want to believe though, those are the specs that would make next gen for me (except for ssd that's just dumb waste of budget)

PS: good thing no one saw my unedited post, it would be just embarrassing now lol
David Ricardo said:
I don't think we can write out an SSD if we are talking about a holiday 2020 release. Prices are expected to come down.
https://www.techspot.com/news/76015-analysts-headed-flash-memory-price-crash.html
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Unless ssd is as cheap as a hdd it wont happen
 
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As of right now the specifications are pretty much finalized some of the parts are a bit pricey at the moment so it wont be released for a while. Looking at another year to year and a half before its released but it should be announced very soon. Development kits are circulating Bend, Santa Monica, ND and Sucker Punch and Guerrilla are all hands on. The machine is 100% backwards compatible and very powerful. I have a better format but just to get it out there to you AMD Ryzen cpu custom configuration 3.20 ghz, 7nm Navi gpu 1.121 ghz 18GB RAM @880GB/s
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I would love to know what this is about?
 
SonGoku said:
Yeah when i read 32gddr6 i got overexcited that i didnt realize it was the old april hoax, it kinda reminded me of the 8gb gddr5 announcement
I want to believe though, those are the specs that would make next gen for me (except for ssd that's just dumb waste of budget)

PS: good thing no one saw my unedited post, it would be just embarrassing now lol

Unless ssd is as cheap as a hdd it wont happen
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SSDs are coming down in price very fast. Samsung expects 500GB SSDs to cost the same as a 1TB HDD by 2020.
 
kaylord said:
A controller for interfacing wirelessly with a computing device is provided, including the following: a housing defined by a main body, a first extension extending from a first end of the main body, and a second extension extending from a second end of the main body, the first extension and the second extension for holding by a first hand and a second hand of a user, respectively; a touchscreen defined along the top surface of the main body between the first extension and the second extension; a first set of buttons disposed on the top surface of the main body proximate to the first extension and on a first side of the touchscreen; and a second set of buttons disposed on the top surface of the main body proximate to the second extension and on a second side of the touchscreen."
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It sounds like they're talking about enhancing the touch bar to show some gestures and not actually be a second screen cause later on it states.

In one embodiment, the touch panel 26 can be coupled with a display screen to provide a touchscreen interface as part of the controller. The touchscreen interface can be controlled by an interactive application to display various images in accordance with the interactive application. For example, the touchscreen might display an image which delineates regions of the touchscreen that correspond to various functionalities for the interactive application. As another example, the touchscreen might display a line which indicates a gesture that the user may perform. The user might trace the line shown on the touchscreen so as to perform the indicated gesture. As yet another example, the touchscreen might be configured to display a gesture or gestures of the user, by providing a visual trace line of where the user touched and swiped/moved their finger(s) along the touchscreen. In one embodiment, the touchscreen is configured to display the most recent gesture or gestures which have been performed on the touchscreen. By way of example, older gestures may be eliminated from display when a new gesture is detected, or trace lines may be configured to fade from display over time or be eliminated from display after a preset time has elapsed.
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SonGoku said:
Yeah when i read 32gddr6 i got overexcited that i didnt realize it was the old april hoax, it kinda reminded me of the 8gb gddr5 announcement
I want to believe though, those are the specs that would make next gen for me (except for ssd that's just dumb waste of budget)

PS: good thing no one saw my unedited post, it would be just embarrassing now lol
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Of course we did, you tried to call out the NAYSAYERS.
 
I do not think the "relatively" small SSD/Flash cache would cause the price per GB to double. That seems to be a pure SSD vs HDD metric. The choice of disk drive and interface will be key though... NVMe link and HDD would be bad, but it would give people the opportunity to get enormous benefits by investing in an optional SSD they could choose and install on their own. With PS4 installing an SSD does not get you anywhere near what it should (not much better on PS4 Pro either).
 
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demigod said:
Of course we did, you tried to call out the NAYSAYERS.
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hehehe for what its worth i still plan on using the same post when the inevitable 24/32gb ram is announced
Panajev2001a said:
I do not think the "relatively" small SSD/Flash cache would cause the price per GB to double. That seems to be a pure SSD vs HDD metric. The choice of disk drive and interface will be key though... NVMe link and HDD would be bad, but it would give people the opportunity to get enormous benefits by investing in an optional SSD they could choose and install on their own. With PS4 installing an SSD does not get you anywhere near what it should (not much better on PS4 Pro either).
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Isnt sata 3 enough to get the full benefits of ssds?
 
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32GB of memory is a total waste. There should be some functionality that sucks RAM as if the world was gonna end tomorrow.

If not, 16GB for 4k assets and HDR color does good, maybe 20GB would be great. But 32¿?¿?
 
SonGoku said:
hehehe for what its worth i still plan on using the same post when the inevitable 24/32gb ram is announced

Isnt sata 3 enough to get the full benefits of ssds?
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It is but the loading is hamstrung by the cpus they can't process the data fast enough
 
Whitecrow said:
32GB of memory is a total waste. There should be some functionality that sucks RAM as if the world was gonna end tomorrow.

If not, 16GB for 4k assets and HDR color does good, maybe 20GB would be great. But 32¿?¿?
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For current gen games
If you limit ram you limit scope to current gen
Toe-Knee said:
It is but the loading is hamstrung by the cpus they can't process the data fast enough
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So its not the interface problem then, hopefully they solve this with a decent enough secondary arm cpu, so that they don't have to reserve any of the main cpu cores for the os
 
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SonGoku said:
For current gen games
If you limit ram you limit scope to current gen
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I wonder what kind of 'next gen' gameplay are you expecting.

I think increasing the hardware like 100$ more in order to avoid devs from scratching their heads with optimizations is a bad choice.

32GB is excessive for all intents and purposes in the console space, unless you are specifically targeting something not even today's PCs are showing.
And that is gonna be very pricey.

I dont buy it.
 
Whitecrow said:
32GB is excessive for all intents and purposes in the console space, unless you are specifically targeting something not even today's PCs are showing.
And that is gonna be very pricey.
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Again... PCs are running current gen games, same situation last gen when high end cards were shipping with 2gb and 3gb. What could we possibly need 8gb for rite?
To run effects, assets at full resolution while also increasing the scope of games more ram will be needed

It is expensive but then again HW makers get special prices in long term contracts, to be clear im not certain 32gb will happen. Depending on any last minute developments it could anywhere from 24gb to 32gb
Panajev2001a said:
SATA3 vs NVMe: http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-hardware/nvme-vs-sata-comparison.html
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Yes but nvme its not for SSDs, nvme are the sticks no?
 
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What's the purpose of a screen in the controller? you can only look at one place at a time. Wouldn't it be more convenient to just press a button and see on the screen whatever you were supposed to see on the controller screen?

Also, if they really want a second screen, wouldn't it be better to just use your phone screen as some games are already doing on PS4?
 
David Ricardo said:
What's the purpose of a screen in the controller? you can only look at one place at a time. Wouldn't it be more convenient to just press a button and see on the screen whatever you were supposed to see on the controller screen?

Also, if they really want a second screen, wouldn't it be better to just use your phone screen as some games are already doing on PS4?
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Maps, Items, Tracks, additional buttons it actually good way to reduce hud on screen there's many ways to use touchscreen i think it's really good idea, and i would have no problem looking at controller for short time.
 
Darius87 said:
Maps, Items, Tracks, additional buttons it actually good way to reduce hud on screen there's many ways to use touchscreen i think it's really good idea, and i would have no problem looking at controller for short time.
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It would also increase tension in horror games and things like last of us when you have to craft.

More immersive as if you were in that situation you wouldn't have complete focus on your surroundings as you would be focused on the crafting etc
 
Darius87 said:
Maps, Items, Tracks, additional buttons it actually good way to reduce hud on screen there's many ways to use touchscreen i think it's really good idea, and i would have no problem looking at controller for short time.
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Wouldn't it be better, cheaper and more convenient to just press L1 and show those maps, items or tracks on your tv?

You can't look at the controller and the screen at the same time.
 
Use of DLSS and raytracing is what gives this fake status.

DLSS is nvidia exclusive technology. Unless they will replace AMD for gpu manufacturer this will not happen.
Secondly current any raytracing requires TOP END not just high end hardware to run games at half the framerate you expect of them to run.
 
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