Possible PS5 leak info

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Toe-Knee said:
He is simply planning to release after. That's probably the reason the X a year after pro to offset the cycle and gain a leg up
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Sounds sensible to me. Release a year later, have the upper hand in power the whole gen.

Porting games from one console to another is really easy nowadays, so MS will benefit of all the 3rd party next gen games made because of the PS5s install base, and they will all play better on Xbox.

If that's the plan, I would seriously think about going Xbox next gen.
 
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Says that Navi isn't GCN https://wccftech.com/exclusive-first-amd-navi-gpu-will-have-40-cus-and-is-codenamed-navi-12/

Now you might remember my old exclusive in which I revealed that we can't expect a flagship GPU from AMD until 2020. I also talked about how Vega was designed specifically for Apple and Navi has been designed specifically for the Sony PS5 and the question that I immediately thought was whether this is the GPU that we can expect to see featured – the answer – nope. The Navi 12 is not going to be the GPU that gets featured in PS5, its a derivative of the actual Navi die and has been created specifically so AMD can get it to market for the PC audience primarily.

I have also been told that Navi will be a new microarchitecture (in other words the first AMD Radeon uArch to not be based on GCN). This is going to be the same IP that powers the succeeding Navi dies (such as the Navi 10 and Navi 20). Now I do know that the Navi 12 GPU will have 40 CUs, what I do not know is if they are going to have the same number of stream processors as GCN does – in which case the core count is going to be 2560 sps. That does seem likely to be the case because from what I have heard the card slots in somewhere around the Vega 56 depending on the clock rate but much cheaper!
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Vega 56 is 10.5 TFLOPS at 1447MHz so if Navi 12 is matching that with only 40CUs it would either have to be clocked at 2GHz or have more than 64 ALUs in each CU.

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onQ123 said:
Says that Navi isn't GCN https://wccftech.com/exclusive-first-amd-navi-gpu-will-have-40-cus-and-is-codenamed-navi-12/
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I don't think this GPU is going to be NAVI. This looks more like Vega at 7nm, 40CU's (with more instructions per CU) at crazy clock speeds.....Liquid Vega already hits 1750 Mhz Core.....AT 7nm Vega clock speeds should be out the roof, easily 2200-2500 Mhz and HBM should exceed 1400-1500 at higher voltage peaks... That should be more than enough to give us GTX 1080 performance say in the $300.00 range... From there, Vega can scale up to 56 or 64 cu's or more, depending on how deep they go....

I think Navi is going to hit retail in late 2019 at the earliest...
 
thelastword said:
I don't think this GPU is going to be NAVI. This looks more like Vega at 7nm, 40CU's (with more instructions per CU) at crazy clock speeds.....Liquid Vega already hits 1750 Mhz Core.....AT 7nm Vega clock speeds should be out the roof, easily 2200-2500 Mhz and HBM should exceed 1400-1500 at higher voltage peaks... That should be more than enough to give us GTX 1080 performance say in the $300.00 range... From there, Vega can scale up to 56 or 64 cu's or more, depending on how deep they go....

I think Navi is going to hit retail in late 2019 at the earliest...
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They are not making any Vega GPUs for the gaming market Navi is going to be for the gamers
 
Remember what Carney said of the PS4: It could have had 1TB of memory bandwidth with embedded ram but developers prefer the unified memory for ease of development.

Assuming unified memory I'd reluctantly believe the bandwidth figure especially if the CPU is significantly more powerful as it and the GPU will need to share the same memory. There's not much point having a much more powerful CPU if the bandwidth isn't there.
 
blastprocessor said:
Remember what Carney said of the PS4: It could have had 1TB of memory bandwidth with embedded ram but developers prefer the unified memory for ease of development.

Assuming unified memory I'd reluctantly believe the bandwidth figure especially if the CPU is significantly more powerful as it and the GPU will need to share the same memory. There's not much point having a much more powerful CPU if the bandwidth isn't there.
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Why? that was in 2013 by the time PS5 releases that will be almost a deade ago, tech moves forward what was once possible only with embedded ram is now possible in other formats
Not saying the rumor its true (i personally think its horseshit all of it) but what cerny said 10 years ago doesn't necessarily apply today
 
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thelastword said:
I don't think this GPU is going to be NAVI. This looks more like Vega at 7nm, 40CU's (with more instructions per CU) at crazy clock speeds.....Liquid Vega already hits 1750 Mhz Core.....AT 7nm Vega clock speeds should be out the roof, easily 2200-2500 Mhz and HBM should exceed 1400-1500 at higher voltage peaks... That should be more than enough to give us GTX 1080 performance say in the $300.00 range... From there, Vega can scale up to 56 or 64 cu's or more, depending on how deep they go....

I think Navi is going to hit retail in late 2019 at the earliest...
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That would mean such uarch could reasonably fit the PS5 timeline and I think it will since it was has been rumoured to be the special project Sony is backing.
 
onQ123 said:
But that's a never ending cycle because Xbox One X isn't selling enough to shift the tides & PS5 & Scarlet is already casting their shadows over it before it can even get a good install base.
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It is but Microsoft have shown that they will stubbornly throw money at it repeatedly with very little gain.

However I think with consecutive results of being the most powerful may sway a small portion of the gaming fanbase.

But that's playing the long game when there's probably only going to be 2-3 more generations of hardware not counting refreshes
 
This is obviously fake the NuPs5 will have built in censors that automatically shred Japanese games that are inserted into it.
 
pawel86ck said:
I'm sure, they were talking about just raytracing resolution, not DLSS. Here you can watch DF video in regards to RTX

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I watched this but i can't remember this. Ill take your word for it, but where do they specifically say this?
 
Even if he was bullshitting and the info is fake, its not going to be too far from what we get though. 2x the One X is the best we will get imo.
 
David Ricardo said:
He said he was going to post again the same day after work. It's been 26 hours since he said that.
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He also said if everything false into place as a go. If legit, he has to make sure not to burn his sources. It will come, like last time with the Pro.
 
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Vtecomega said:
All this mumbo jumbo talk doesn't mean shit when your console is a flimsy unreliable pos.

I went through 4 PS4's due to disc drive failures. 6 controllers with faulty thumb stick grips and god knows what else. My last PS4 PRO was 3 months old before it started spitting out my discs and completely fucked its disc drive. Why the gaming industry refuses to acknowledge this as a real problem is truly baffling.

I recently purchased an xbox x and the difference in build quality is astonishing. The controller feels sturdy and premium, no rattles or loose parts. The console itself is light years ahead of the PS4. Its silent, lightning quick and 90% of games run at native 4k with superior graphical detail.

I guarantee you the PS5 will have the same issues, and Microsoft will still have the superior console come next gen.
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Crazy how this differs person to person. I am always a day one purchaser of Sony consoles and I game hours daily, consistently, so they definitely get used. My ps4 og is still going strong and being used daily (only issue I had was overheating and I have a outside fan tht has handled that) . My ps4pro is like the day I got it with no issues and is rarely loud.

Love the "light years ahead" comment :) when you have Ps4 exclusive that look better than most Xbox games so tht "superior graphical detail comment" is ridiculous. Forza finally gave Xbox something to boast about while Ps4 been games to boast about graphically. Uncharted 4 alone is an older game and still hasnt been toppled in graphical detail, not to mention others. But no need for list wars.

I will give you the initial controllers though. I prefer my dual shock over my xbox controllers but the build quality on the controllers on my xbox were better on release. My new ps4 controllers dont have those early issues.

Back on topic I cant wait for ps4 news. I hope that PSVR is a big part of it as it was very innovative on console and makes certain games so much more immersive.
 
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bitbydeath said:
Games would perform a lot better on a console at 6TF if it actually had games made only for it.
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Exactly, same with the Pro. Now imagine a 10-12TF system, with faster memory bandwidth, and a night and day CPU upgrade as the new baseline for games.

Right now 1.31TF XB1 is the baseline for third party, and 1.84 is the baseline for Sony's first party.

It is going to be a hell of an upgrade in that respects.
 
Yeah if people saw what an actual game made soley for the One X looked like, they would probably be salavating at the thought of next gen consoles being twice as powerful as the One X.
 
Stuart360 said:
Yeah if people saw what an actual game made soley for the One X looked like, they would probably be salavating at the thought of next gen consoles being twice as powerful as the One X.
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If One X had games made for it with better visual it probably wouldn't come even close to 4k. So next gen games would look very similar but rendered at a higher res.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Exactly, same with the Pro. Now imagine a 10-12TF system, with faster memory bandwidth, and a night and day CPU upgrade as the new baseline for games.

Right now 1.31TF XB1 is the baseline for third party, and 1.84 is the baseline for Sony's first party.

It is going to be a hell of an upgrade in that respects.
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I have to agree with this 💯
 
David Ricardo said:
If One X had games made for it with better visual it probably wouldn't come even close to 4k. So next gen games would look very similar but rendered at a higher res.
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Thats my point though. The XB1 1.3tf, PS4 1.8tf, the X 6tf. Imagine what a X game would look like if really pushed, then imagine that same game at 4k on next gen.
 
Stuart360 said:
Thats my point though. The XB1 1.3tf, PS4 1.8tf, the X 6tf. Imagine what a X game would look like if really pushed, then imagine that same game at 4k on next gen.
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I can't imagine that. But the jump from 1.8 to 12 tf is roughly the same than the one from 0.2 (360) to 1.3 (One fat). So I'm expecting the same kind of jump from PS4 1080p to PS5 in 1440p games. Games that go for 4k would have half of that jump.
 
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Vtecomega said:
All this mumbo jumbo talk doesn't mean shit when your console is a flimsy unreliable pos.

I went through 4 PS4's due to disc drive failures. 6 controllers with faulty thumb stick grips and god knows what else. My last PS4 PRO was 3 months old before it started spitting out my discs and completely fucked its disc drive. Why the gaming industry refuses to acknowledge this as a real problem is truly baffling.

I recently purchased an xbox x and the difference in build quality is astonishing. The controller feels sturdy and premium, no rattles or loose parts. The console itself is light years ahead of the PS4. Its silent, lightning quick and 90% of games run at native 4k with superior graphical detail.

I guarantee you the PS5 will have the same issues, and Microsoft will still have the superior console come next gen.
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Sorry, but you're in a tiny minority who experience such problems. I have had launch PS consoles since PS1 and they all still work even though I have dropped them, spilled liquid on them, had them in my checked in baggage while traveling and they still work.

Light years ahead? Starting to sound a bit fanboy'y there, mate.
 
My og PS4 was good, except the spitting out disc issue that annoyed me a lot. I kind of fixed it but it still happened randomly. When the Pro came out I quickly traded it and had my Pro since with no issues.
 
TLZ said:
My og PS4 was good, except the spitting out disc issue that annoyed me a lot. I kind of fixed it but it still happened randomly. When the Pro came out I quickly traded it and had my Pro since with no issues.
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That was the only issue on my launch unit as well. Happened once every couple of years (so basically only twice so far). I turned the ejection screw slightly, and it solved it. Has not happened since getting mostly digital now, so I assume the lack of BR drive vibration does not shift the ejection screw.
 
DeepEnigma said:
That was the only issue on my launch unit as well. Happened once every couple of years (so basically only twice so far). I turned the ejection screw slightly, and it solved it. Has not happened since getting mostly digital now, so I assume the lack of BR drive vibration does not shift the ejection screw.
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Yeah that's how I fixed it too. But it happened way more than once in two years for me. More like once a week.
 
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