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I love how this has just escalated to such a fucking crazy degree, like, your entire family foundations could end up being built entirely on GAF, and that is so ridiculously perfect. Sure beats the usual expected family beginnings.

Look on the bright side, it'd make a good Seth Rogen comedy.
 
Don't marry her. Get a paternity test IMMEDIATLY after the birth. Do not sign anything until that point. It's important to know that the law protects the mother and the baby first. Meaning, the child could be eligible to receive benefits from you even if it's determined years later you are NOT the biological father.

If the baby is yours, love and support that child with all your heart and time - but you getting into a loveless relationship will only hurt the child.

I've dated a crazy woman who was bent on getting pregnant in high school and a buddy who fell into the trap in his mid-20- women like this can be very manipulative.

That's exactly what I'm saying.
 
Kids are great, OP. By having this one at 21, s/he will be out of the house to college before you're 40. When some folks you know will just be getting started with their offspring and worrying about diapers and elementary school, you'll be free and clear to do whatever you want sans kid. Think positively. Also if history repeats you could be a grandpa in your 40's, how cool would that be!
 
So from reading this thread there are apparently people out there who still believe, in this day and age, that the pull-out method is an effective form of contraception.

Yikes.
 
Don't give up on abortion! So there's a chance she'd always feel bad about it, or always resent you for it. That doesn't matter. You don't want the kid at all, she honestly seems like she might be nuts, at least about this issue, and clearly neither of you are nearly ready to raise a child. Which do you think is worse, which do you think is more likely -- a few years of depression and resentment over no kid or the results of putting yourselves and the kid through a childhood being raised by parents (and the plural here is optimistic) who don't have any business raising one, and in your case don't want anything to do with it?

If you're absolutely sure she will not abort, then push for adoption, but if you do, you're going to have to push for it hard through the whole pregnancy and make it clear that you do not want the kid to be part of your life, because based on your descriptions I would fully expect her to act like she's going along with adoption and then change her mind. Who knows if she didn't plan this from the start, based on how weird and suspicious she's acted about everything. That's not a good family dynamic. Don't give up on adoption, at the least. Maybe you could work it out so you meet the adoptive parents well before the childbirth, which should help with her probable want to keep it.

I'm sure this sounds awfully harsh, but think about the only child that's going to be raised under bad conditions by parents apparently still in school, and that's IF you even manage to stay together. Your life as you know it is over when you have a kid, and whatever it has to deal with growing up is completely your fault if you end up raising it.
 
Your life as you know it is over when you have a kid, and whatever it has to deal with growing up is completely your fault if you end up raising it.

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So from reading this thread there are apparently people out there who still believe, in this day and age, that the pull-out method is an effective form of contraception.

Yikes.

I know from personal experience it works. My wife and I average about 1-2 times a week. After our first kid we did nothing but the pullout method for 2 years. Figured, hey - if we get pregnant we get pregnant. Once we were committed to a second kid, we stopped doing it and got pregnant in 6-8 weeks.

Now, I couldn't in full concience actually recommend it to anyone - but I'm confident it did work for us.
 
I know from personal experience it works. My wife and I average about 1-2 times a week. After our first kid we did nothing but the pullout method for 2 years. Figured, hey - if we get pregnant we get pregnant. Once we were committed to a second kid, we stopped doing it and got pregnant in 6-8 weeks.

Now, I couldn't in full concience actually recommend it to anyone - but I'm confident it did work for us.

Pull out method is actually surprisingly high in prevention, 73% even if you do it wrong, 96% if you do it correctly.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-info/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method
 
Don't give up on abortion! So there's a chance she'd always feel bad about it, or always resent you for it. That doesn't matter.

You are the most unemphatic individual in this thread and I hope that as long as you don't want kids you insist on condoms even if someone tells you that they are on birth control. I say this under the assumption that you are man who is sexually active\attracted with\to women.

The girl will be going through enough as it is during the pregnancy and does not deserve to be hassled about abortion and adoption if she has made up her mind. If op is desperate enough to try this to avoid having the kid my advice would be that you don't and instead make short process and dump her and then get the paternity testing done instead of putting her under constant pressure for the next eight months.
 
Fixed that for you.

Hmmm.

Birth control reduces the chances, greatly, of getting pregnant, but it's not fool proof.

I think it's a valid argument to say if you have sex, you've got to be able to deal with the possible consequences.

Women aren't able to just "walk away" from it, men shouldn't be able to either.
 
Hmmm.

Birth control reduces the chances, greatly, of getting pregnant, but it's not fool proof.

I think it's a valid argument to say if you have sex, you've got to be able to deal with the possible consequences.

Women aren't able to just "walk away" from it, men shouldn't be able to either.

In a pregnancy, I would love if there were a 50/50 chance of whether it was the man or the woman who got pregnant.

Obviously that's impossible/wouldn't work anatomically, but I think it would be great.
 
As someone who's been through this (around the same age) your best option is to abort. Luckily for you, it's her decision. You either have a rational discussion about it and decide to visit a clinic, or you carry it to term and deal with a lifetime of regret and extra drama on top of your typical work/school stress.

Adoption is such a lame cop-out, I don't really care who it offends. Religious people care about babies up until they're born. If you're choosing between adoption and abortion, just realize that you're very likely creating a situation for your child that is impossible for them to advance from. If my parents had given me up for adoption, I'd probably hunt them down.

It's an unpopular opinion, but if you aren't ready, you'd better hope you can convince your (seemingly immature) girlfriend to end it quickly. It may be her choice, but you're in this together. You should have a say.

For the record, if I had a kid with my girlfriend, our lives would have been ruined. I can't imagine where we'd be right now, ~4 years later. Instead, we got over that hump and improved our lives tenfold; now we're engaged and talking about kids the right way.

No child wants to be an accident, and none of them want to be thrown away to a fucking orphanage.

So, I'm adopted. And you know what? I'm fucking glad I was.

My biological parents were around OP's age when they got pregnant. In university, not married, totally unprepared and biological mother's family was very religious. So very similar situation. My biological mother wanted to keep me, to raise me herself. Due to the circumstances at the time, she was "convinced" to give me up.

And my life is SO MUCH BETTER because of it. My parents are wonderful, loving, and supportive people. I have an older sister who is also adopted, and we have a fantastic relationship. Adoptive parents WANT children desperately. They usually can't have them, so they turn to adoption because they know, without a doubt, that they want kids. Biological parents, as in OP's case, aren't necessarily in that boat.

If I had stuck with my biological parents, my mother would have had to drop out of university. Biological father left her, so it would just be us. My grandparents would disapprove greatly, so I probably would have a terrible relationship with my grandmother (at least), and I would not have had all the opportunities I had growing up. I know this because I met my biological mother. She's a lovely person, but these are just the realities of what her life (and mine) would have been.

And she finally agreed to adoption because she herself had been adopted too. Later in her life, she actually did reunite with her biological parents and found out they had gotten married and had more kids. It was a bit awkward for her, given the situation, but the point is it happens.

And she didn't regret her family because her adoptive parents are her family. As are mine. My mother is my mother. She raised me, loved me, fed me, clothed me, and supported me throughout all the difficult times and the good. She still supports me, along with my dad.

Adoption is NOT a copout. It's a very difficult decision and, honestly, it's an unselfish one.

OP, based on your posts, it sounds like adoption is the best option you have. Your GF might think she's ready to raise a baby (and perhaps she is, but it doesn't seem like it based on the posts), but the key is that what matters now, more than anything else, is what is best for the baby. You need to give the kid it's best chance at a good life.

Also, if you do go for adoption, obviously go through an adoption agency. A legit one. You can hand-pick the family and, I think today you can even meet with them beforehand. (Couldn't when I was adopted.)

Side note: I am totally pro-choice, but it's pretty clear abortion is not okay for your GF, so best to let it go, like most of the other posters have said.

Whatever happens, I hope it turns out well for all of you.
 
It's a very complex issue, for sure. I understand that you got lucky and were adopted to a loving family, and that's great. Unfortunately, that's not exactly the common outcome: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/afcarsreport20.pdf

There are reports that show a lower IQ for children who grow up in a foster home. This link has several studies which follow children who 'age out' and document their struggles as adults: http://www.chapinhall.org/research/report/midwest-evaluation-adult-functioning-former-foster-youth

Once again, I'm happy that you found a family and have a great life. It's not the case for everyone. I don't understand how abortion (especially at such an early stage) is looked down upon, yet carrying the baby to term and giving it up is somehow better. If you're able to carry the baby to term, you should do as the rest of the posters are saying, and 'man up.' Again, I use the term cop-out, because that's what it is. That's why religious organizations push for it so hard.

Personally, I've never met my dad, and from what I know he's a jackass. My mom's nuts, too, and I was adopted by my step-dad as a child. I've also known plenty of adopted people, most of whom are depressed or screwed up in one way or another, even if they were adopted into nice, loving homes. My opinion might be circumstantial, but the stats seem to back me up.

Point is, either you're ready for a baby or you aren't. I don't think carrying the kid to term and tossing them into a home and hoping for the best is in any way more respectable than terminating the pregnancy early enough for it not to even be considered a life form. Frankly, it appears to do the child a favor by not bringing them into the world only to realize they weren't wanted in the first place.

I will say this: if adoption is the route you choose, Daft Fear is correct in advising a reputable agency. At least then you can be assured that the baby goes to a decent home, but that won't guarantee it will necessarily have a good life.

dammit why did I post about abortion on gaf
 
While not all women are like that, I'm just saying, it's best to be cautious about it, as not all of them are trustworthy.

Then....don't sign the birth certificate?

When my wife and I had our first daughter we weren't married yet. The hospital clearly indicated that by signing the documents I was waiving my right to contest paternity, and it's printed on the form in bold, easy-to-understand language.

I signed with confidence, and everything worked out in the end (married eleven years this May), but if there is any doubt then don't sign. Just be prepared for the fallout when you have to explain why you don't think the baby may be yours.

EDIT:

So, I'm adopted. And you know what? I'm fucking glad I was.

Every single person I've met who has been adopted felt this way. That's the entire point of adoption - to place an unwanted child with parents who want him or her. Glad it worked out for you :)
 
It's a very complex issue, for sure. I understand that you got lucky and were adopted to a loving family, and that's great. Unfortunately, that's not exactly the common outcome: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/afcarsreport20.pdf

There are reports that show a lower IQ for children who grow up in a foster home. This link has several studies which follow children who 'age out' and document their struggles as adults: http://www.chapinhall.org/research/report/midwest-evaluation-adult-functioning-former-foster-youth

Once again, I'm happy that you found a family and have a great life. It's not the case for everyone. I don't understand how abortion (especially at such an early stage) is looked down upon, yet carrying the baby to term and giving it up is somehow better. If you're able to carry the baby to term, you should do as the rest of the posters are saying, and 'man up.' Again, I use the term cop-out, because that's what it is. That's why religious organizations push for it so hard.

Personally, I've never met my dad, and from what I know he's a jackass. My mom's nuts, too, and I was adopted by my step-dad as a child. I've also known plenty of adopted people, most of whom are depressed or screwed up in one way or another, even if they were adopted into nice, loving homes. My opinion might be circumstantial, but the stats seem to back me up.

Point is, either you're ready for a baby or you aren't. I don't think carrying the kid to term and tossing them into a home and hoping for the best is in any way more respectable than terminating the pregnancy early enough for it not to even be considered a life form. Frankly, it appears to do the child a favor by not bringing them into the world only to realize they weren't wanted in the first place.

I will say this: if adoption is the route you choose, Daft Fear is correct in advising a reputable agency. At least then you can be assured that the baby goes to a decent home, but that won't guarantee it will necessarily have a good life.

dammit why did I post about abortion on gaf
I can't go through all the links on that page, but I wonder if that's more of correlation than causation. That is, if - purely statistically looking - the people who's children end up in a foster home.. might not be as smart as other people in average. Not to say a person that gives up their child is stupid (at all), but there might be a correlation with IQ statistically looking.

I agree with you otherwise though.
 
It's a very complex issue, for sure. I understand that you got lucky and were adopted to a loving family, and that's great. Unfortunately, that's not exactly the common outcome: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/cb/afcarsreport20.pdf

There are reports that show a lower IQ for children who grow up in a foster home. This link has several studies which follow children who 'age out' and document their struggles as adults: http://www.chapinhall.org/research/report/midwest-evaluation-adult-functioning-former-foster-youth

Once again, I'm happy that you found a family and have a great life. It's not the case for everyone. I don't understand how abortion (especially at such an early stage) is looked down upon, yet carrying the baby to term and giving it up is somehow better. If you're able to carry the baby to term, you should do as the rest of the posters are saying, and 'man up.' Again, I use the term cop-out, because that's what it is. That's why religious organizations push for it so hard.

Personally, I've never met my dad, and from what I know he's a jackass. My mom's nuts, too, and I was adopted by my step-dad as a child. I've also known plenty of adopted people, most of whom are depressed or screwed up in one way or another, even if they were adopted into nice, loving homes. My opinion might be circumstantial, but the stats seem to back me up.

Point is, either you're ready for a baby or you aren't. I don't think carrying the kid to term and tossing them into a home and hoping for the best is in any way more respectable than terminating the pregnancy early enough for it not to even be considered a life form. Frankly, it appears to do the child a favor by not bringing them into the world only to realize they weren't wanted in the first place.

I will say this: if adoption is the route you choose, Daft Fear is correct in advising a reputable agency. At least then you can be assured that the baby goes to a decent home, but that won't guarantee it will necessarily have a good life.

dammit why did I post about abortion on gaf

I think it's important to note that adoption through agencies and adoption from the foster care system are very different.

Given that OP and his GF know now about the pregnancy and can make the decisions ahead of time together, it doesn't make sense that they would "toss the kid into a home," as you put it. This is what adoption agencies are for and they generally work with unborn babies or infants.

And while you can't guarantee the kid will have a happy life even if you pick the family, you also cannot guarantee a kid has a happy life if they grow up with their biological family. It's even harder when there are so many stressors on the parents and strong disagreement between the parents about what to do/how to raise the kid (as there seem to be in this situation).

I'm sorry, unsightly, that your experiences were not good. I truly am.

All my experience and the experiences of everyone I know who has dealt with adoption (either being adopted or adopting a child) have been very positive. The idea that the adopted children "weren't wanted" is frankly the most damaging one out there. That and the "man up" and take care of your kid thing. If you can't support a child and give them all that they would need, then "manning up" would mean making the hard decision and giving your child to someone who CAN take care of them. At least, that seems the more responsible and brave decision to me.

As for abortion, it shouldn't be treated like murder, in my opinion, because it isn't. But every woman I know who has gone through with an abortion (whether they are at peace with the decision or not) has been changed by it. It's not the kind of thing you can force someone into and then expect them not to be different.

But in the end, when it comes down to it, one way or another, this has to be OP's decision. And his GF of course. Whatever they decide, it has to be a decision that comes from them and feels right to both of them.
 
I know from personal experience it works. My wife and I average about 1-2 times a week. After our first kid we did nothing but the pullout method for 2 years. Figured, hey - if we get pregnant we get pregnant. Once we were committed to a second kid, we stopped doing it and got pregnant in 6-8 weeks.

Now, I couldn't in full concience actually recommend it to anyone - but I'm confident it did work for us.

From my personal experience it does not work. =/
 
You are the most unemphatic individual in this thread and I hope that as long as you don't want kids you insist on condoms even if someone tells you that they are on birth control. I say this under the assumption that you are man who is sexually active\attracted with\to women.

The girl will be going through enough as it is during the pregnancy and does not deserve to be hassled about abortion and adoption if she has made up her mind. If op is desperate enough to try this to avoid having the kid my advice would be that you don't and instead make short process and dump her and then get the paternity testing done instead of putting her under constant pressure for the next eight months.

I hardly think I need condoms and birth control on top of my vasectomy to stay child-free, but that's good advice, besides. You say the girl doesn't deserve to be hassled for months, but does she deserve her life as a single mother to be permanently crippled by a kid she isn't ready for? Would the child deserve to deal with that, as well? I don't think the best solution is the one which focuses solely on the short term emotional desire of one party. I'm completely in favor of it being her choice, but rational argument is a better option than shrugging if she's clearly making a poor one.

As for adoption, it's hit or miss, but I think two parents who actually want and are prepared for the child would probably be better for it. Still, I think that's plan C after abortion in terms of positive outcomes.

I don't make a habit of insisting on what strangers should do with their lives, or what women should do with their bodies and unborn children, but there's a chance OP is actually reading this thread and giving the responses some thought, and I see a lot of potential misery in the lives of the three people involved, so I'm just trying to advocate for cutting some losses. I'm a good Samaritan like that, what can I say.
 
I hardly think I need condoms and birth control on top of my vasectomy to stay child-free, but that's good advice, besides. You say the girl doesn't deserve to be hassled for months, but does she deserve her life as a single mother to be permanently crippled by a kid she isn't ready for? Would the child deserve to deal with that, as well? I don't think the best solution is the one which focuses solely on the short term emotional desire of one party. I'm completely in favor of it being her choice, but rational argument is a better option than shrugging if she's clearly making a poor one.

As for adoption, it's hit or miss, but I think two parents who actually want and are prepared for the child would probably be better for it. Still, I think that's plan C after abortion in terms of positive outcomes.

I don't make a habit of insisting on what strangers should do with their lives, or what women should do with their bodies and unborn children, but there's a chance OP is actually reading this thread and giving the responses some thought, and I see a lot of potential misery in the lives of the three people involved, so I'm just trying to advocate for cutting some losses. I'm a good Samaritan like that, what can I say.

Point is if she chooses to fulfill the pregnancy there is no question about deserving or not, it will be a choice she made. Totally disregarding someones feelings and future mental health as you suggested is not something anyone deserves.

The op is free to act however he likes but I really think if he is desperate to not have anything to with the kid it would be better to drop out now without souring the relationship further by doing their hardest to influence a choice that is not his to make.

Who knows, dumping her might even cause her to change her mind about raising the kid.
 
Then....don't sign the birth certificate?

When my wife and I had our first daughter we weren't married yet. The hospital clearly indicated that by signing the documents I was waiving my right to contest paternity, and it's printed on the form in bold, easy-to-understand language.

I signed with confidence, and everything worked out in the end (married eleven years this May), but if there is any doubt then don't sign. Just be prepared for the fallout when you have to explain why you don't think the baby may be yours.

I was just giving some advice; I don't have any children.
 
My ex-gf always had the worst timing for pregnancy scares. Her period came a whole week late while I was on vacation in Europe with my family. I could hardly enjoy the first half of that awesome vacation because I was fucking freaking out because we had only been together for like 6 months and I was 21 years old and not planning on having kids. The other bad one was after we stupidly had unprotected sex a few days after breaking up (you know, the ol' "one last time" breakup fuck). Terrible images of my future as a single dad with a humiliating "knocked up his ex" story flashed through my mind daily until I got the all clear. God, the thought of having a child with that woman sends shivers down my spine.

I know from personal experience it works. My wife and I average about 1-2 times a week. After our first kid we did nothing but the pullout method for 2 years. Figured, hey - if we get pregnant we get pregnant. Once we were committed to a second kid, we stopped doing it and got pregnant in 6-8 weeks.

Now, I couldn't in full concience actually recommend it to anyone - but I'm confident it did work for us.

I believe you, but it just isn't a reliable method because people are different. It is apparent that you have fantastic penis discipline and you were able to pull it off. So many people out there fail though, because they wait too long and/or don't realize that you start ejaculating before you feel the orgasm. Or they have leftover semen in their urethra because nobody taught them to pee after orgasm in order to clear the pipes.
 
I believe you, but it just isn't a reliable method because people are different. It is apparent that you have fantastic penis discipline and you were able to pull it off. So many people out there fail though, because they wait too long and/or don't realize that you start ejaculating before you feel the orgasm. Or they have leftover semen in their urethra because nobody taught them to pee after orgasm in order to clear the pipes.

I totally agree, as I said I couldn't in full conscience recommend it. I just thought it added to the discussion that it worked for us (and will now add the withdrawal method worked for other couples we know).

I also agree with you that it requires an ability to know when you are ejeculating. For some that's more difficult than others. I guess you have to know yourself in that way. For informative (yet NSFW) specifics as to how we had done it:

We would have slow intercourse until she came while using a vibrator. At which point I would keep going at a higher rate for a little bit, but what's important to understand is that I would pull out waaaay before I was close to orgasm. Like, it would usually take 3-5 minutes for one of us to finish me off in other ways. Basically, you and your partner have to understand a porno-style last minute withdrawal on her chest is simply not an option.
 
Bumpity bump...
How's things going, egruntz?? Any news?
Hope things are going well!

Sorry for those that came in here just now thinking there was an update.... <3
 
This thread was so fascinating. A young man just changed the entire trajectory of his life. The freedom he could have had to do whatever he wanted leaving college. Travel the world, go back to school, work odd-end jobs, have fun, go for a career on his terms, etc. And one night of sex changed it all. Damn.

Sorry OP.

Thank you.
 
Bumpity bump...
How's things going, egruntz?? Any news?
Hope things are going well!

Sorry for those that came in here just now thinking there was an update.... <3

Well, life carries on I guess. There was about a month there where I seriously suspected she had cheated on me, cause I thought she was showing a bit too early. I let go of that cause I figured that could only worsen our relationship to have hindering thoughts like that. I was panicking to the whole situation and freaked out on multiple occasions--this one night I unloaded on a bus driver for no good reason, that sort of crap. I figured my mind isn't in a right state, let this go, carry on, etc.

Her parents hate me lol. We're living together now, and just reading some of these texts that her mom sends her twists and turns my gut while bringing my piss to a boil. The aspect of her parents, particularly her mom, being so against the relationship now is probably the hardest part. I've come to terms with the fact that abortion isn't an option and that I'll soon be a dad. I still think I'll be a shit father cause I'm so young and so unlearned on that entire subject. My own father is a conman (legit on the run from the feds), so I don't have a role model for this situation.

My mom was just like "oh you dummy." She's given up on me a while ago--I mean that in a soft way. Like, in high school, I would just wake up and tell her "Ain't going to class. Hate math." I was her fifth kid--not her worst either--so she was just done with it all. "Okay. Your life. You'll pay for that later," she would say. ANYWAY, back to the present, she's troubled it's happened before marriage cause she's also a stout conservative, but she's been loving and supportive all the same. She's been calling my girlfriend and talking with her on things like what to expect and volunteering to babysit already. My siblings don't exactly care what happened and are just going with the flow. "Oh, cool. Congratulations! Hope you're ready for it." That kind of thing.

Sooooo that's the update I suppose. =/ I'm kind of just ignoring it in a way...Just waiting for the day that's going to change everything.
 
Wish we could help more, man. You know we're here for tips, it's going to be hard at the beginning, it's like that for everyone. Don't give up. And don't take it on your kid if you ever feel you couldn't do what you wanted with life, remember it's both of you who chose that method.

Anything, and I mean anything, don't doubt to ask ParentGAF. There are always tips one would have loved to have from the start.
 
Well, life carries on I guess. There was about a month there where I seriously suspected she had cheated on me, cause I thought she was showing a bit too early. I let go of that cause I figured that could only worsen our relationship to have hindering thoughts like that. I was panicking to the whole situation and freaked out on multiple occasions--this one night I unloaded on a bus driver for no good reason, that sort of crap. I figured my mind isn't in a right state, let this go, carry on, etc.

Her parents hate me lol. We're living together now, and just reading some of these texts that her mom sends her twists and turns my gut while bringing my piss to a boil. The aspect of her parents, particularly her mom, being so against the relationship now is probably the hardest part. I've come to terms with the fact that abortion isn't an option and that I'll soon be a dad. I still think I'll be a shit father cause I'm so young and so unlearned on that entire subject. My own father is a conman (legit on the run from the feds), so I don't have a role model for this situation.

My mom was just like "oh you dummy." She's given up on me a while ago--I mean that in a soft way. Like, in high school, I would just wake up and tell her "Ain't going to class. Hate math." I was her fifth kid--not her worst either--so she was just done with it all. "Okay. Your life. You'll pay for that later," she would say. ANYWAY, back to the present, she's troubled it's happened before marriage cause she's also a stout conservative, but she's been loving and supportive all the same. She's been calling my girlfriend and talking with her on things like what to expect and volunteering to babysit already. My siblings don't exactly care what happened and are just going with the flow. "Oh, cool. Congratulations! Hope you're ready for it." That kind of thing.

Sooooo that's the update I suppose. =/ I'm kind of just ignoring it in a way...Just waiting for the day that's going to change everything.


Thanks for the update, man. Sucks about her mum hating you. Hopefully when her grandchild comes along it will soften her heart up a little.
Don't think you'll be a shit father. Just because you didn't have a good role model for one doesn't mean you can't be a good one. Just think about what you think is a good father, and try your best to be that.
And even though you're still young, it doesn't mean you know any less about being a dad than if you were 5 or 6 years older.
I'm almost 30, and if my wife told me today that she was pregnant, I wouldn't know shit about taking care of a baby. You're never ready for it. It just happens, and you just learn to deal with it. - This is what my friends and family who are fathers tell me, anyway.
 
My mom was just like "oh you dummy." She's given up on me a while ago--I mean that in a soft way. Like, in high school, I would just wake up and tell her "Ain't going to class. Hate math." I was her fifth kid--not her worst either--so she was just done with it all. "Okay. Your life. You'll pay for that later," she would say.

I'm sorry, couldn't stop laughing once I read that. You give up on maths, you give up on life.

Best of luck dude, no one is perfect on this kind of stuff. Just care for each other, share the raising of the child, and maybe don't underestimate how fast-learning kids can be.
 
Aren't kids the #1 thing that teaches people the meaning of responsibility?


Even jobs and moving out of the house fall short of this.
 
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