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Pregnant woman ran down a fleeing man 'who stole purse from her car' in Walmart
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She did risk the baby by reckless driving and also by confronting the thief, even while he didn't show any earlier signs of agression. Getting tried (also succeeding) to get hit by a car can get your emotions high.
Frozenprince
Banned
HER WORDS.
It had nothing to do with getting her stuff back, she was pissed and wanted to hurt him for doing it.
Username1198
Member
Haven't made my way completely through this thread yet, but I hope your one in a few that feel that way.
The last thing we want people to do is take the law into their own hands. That's what the authorities are for.
I mean, yea, fuck thieves, but she tried to murder him for stealing stuff that is probably mostly replaceable. Murder is not the answer in that situation. She's pregnant so she put her child in unnecessary danger, and she could have very easily have hit an innocent bystander, the way she drove after him was wreck less and very dangerous and above all, completely unnecessary. She shoulda just called for help immediately.
Edit Jesus the Prometheus references......I'm dead
Sweet. And then you go to jail for attempted murder. You can't run over a thief with your purse/wallet. Cause that's what happened here. She didn't shoot him in the middle of an attempted burglary. She drove into him when he took off with her purse.
1. she was not in imminent danger
2. the theft already took place
3. she got in her car and ran after him and then hit him
4. she's NOT FUCKING JUDGE DREDD
wtf is wrong with you people?
Frozenprince
Banned
No no no. She chased him on foot, couldn't catch him, so then she ran BACK to her car, started it, and ran full speed into him.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Bright side: if he goes to jail for murder his crazy ass is out of society.
Theonik
Member
πάντες γὰρ οἱ λαβόντες μάχαιραν ἐν μαχαίρῃ ἀπολοῦνται
I mean, you could have just said that in English.
Then why defend it?
King Gilga
Member
It sounds cooler when you have to google translate it tho.
I may have a problem with the method but I don't have a problem with the concept.
Matthew 26:52
Put your sword back in its place, Jesus said to him, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
Sweet. that will definitely hold up in court at your attempted murder trial.
Basketball
Member
Not saying I would murder the guy
But whatever man she's a pregnant lady and she can't chase the guy down on her feet.
Maybe she had precious pictures or something
Let's say I was walking and this dude came up and stole my wallet. You damn right I'm stomping his shit in if I caught him on foot.
Be honest you would too
Welp I guess he can just take my stuff it's all good , causing me all these headaches .. live and let live amirite.
But whatever man she's a pregnant lady and she can't chase the guy down on her feet.
Maybe she had precious pictures or something
Let's say I was walking and this dude came up and stole my wallet. You damn right I'm stomping his shit in if I caught him on foot.
Be honest you would too
Welp I guess he can just take my stuff it's all good , causing me all these headaches .. live and let live amirite.
Theonik
Member
Live by the sword die by the sword.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I mean, I'm sorta with you, but don't kill for the sake of it.
I've encountered one instance of attempted theft where I caught the guy. He was rummaging through my car at around 3am. I calmly grabbed my shotgun, slid open the sun room window and made my way to the driveway where I aimed and shouted stop.
He did and we called the police. No need to actually kill someone though.
They found my mom's blood pressure medicine on him from her glove box and a cup of change from my cup holder down his pants. Worst thief ever.
Frozenprince
Banned
Why is it that most sane legal systems aren't issuing capital punishment for PETTY THEFT then?
We don't tend to use biblical punishments as rule of law anymore.
edgy
I...I know what it is. I googled it, as was your implied request. I'm still just saying though.
Should the robber's mother come run down that pregnant woman with her SUV?
"Live by the SUV, die by the SUV"
Theonik
Member
This isn't punishment. This is using whatever force is necessary to stop a crime in progress. If he survives it would of be wrong to kill them.
Frozenprince
Banned
Which. Is. Illegal.
Police officers exist for this purpose, you don't get to take the law into your own hands.
Jesus Christ y'all are scary.
King Gilga
Member
I was right "All men for the slaughter of the daggers are cast" does sound way cooler than that.
Edgy.
Unintellectuals like you are exactly why this country is such a mess.
If she had chased him down and stopped him without damn near killing him or potentially hurting someone, I wouldn't be complaining. She tried to kill him. It went beyond trying to get her property back and went into full on vigilantism and vindictiveness.
https://nationalparalegal.edu/publi...asp_files/criminalLaw/defenses/UseofForce.asp
I guess she was only using non-deadly force to arrest the suspect. By running him over.
Username1198
Member
Eh. Crime has already taken place. This is just running someone over. Either way, it's not your damn job to carry out vigilante justice.
Pretty ridiculous seeing a running people over defense force. Good old GAF.
Edit: lol at her being pregnant being used as an excuse.
King Gilga
Member
Do you think police officers are some kind of omnipotent force with instant response times?
Frozenprince
Banned
No. Which is why you can react to these situations with appropriate force as a response.
When you cross the line to using a deadly weapon, or are unable to resolve the situation yourself without doing do, you call the police.
Randolph Freelander
Member
If you're going to quote Jesus in the context of crime, how about quoting Jesus actually talking about crime. Spoiler alert: don't resist the thief.
And in your example, she's the one with the sword, not him.
no but individuals are not suppose to take the law into their own hands. they can try to stop a crime, or arrest the suspect but you CAN'T HIT THEM WITH YOUR CAR
Maybe if he was actively shooting at people or about to set off a bomb or go see the new Transformers movie, then yeah you can hit with your car. But running off with your purse? No, thats clearly vigilantism.
Username1198
Member
No. But there are still many ways for them to track him down. her using deadly force was dumb, unnecessary and put multiple lives in danger. That's not the appropriate way to react.
Yeaa...I'm no expert, but why is he even saying live by the sword die by the sword? I thought it meant that violence isn't the answer? So it's weird for someone to say yea "any force necessary" then say "live by the sword die by the sword"
It didn't need to be instant. She was no longer in danger. The cops could've pulled security camera footage and probably tracked him down.
Regardless, the capability of the police has nothing to do with this. By your logic vigilantism is justified because the police aren't perfect.
This sounds like something the Punisher would say.
I noticed that when I googled it. The full quote being ”put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword."
So, put your SUV back in its parking spot. If she had somehow come to harm during the encounter then she would have lived up to the quote.
Edgy quote backfire.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Vigilante justice....pregnant woman... Walmart.... in North Carolina.... yup, sounds about right! Take the state out of the picture and I can still see this happening in any Walmart in general, but the fact it happened in a Southern state just makes it sound "right".
Theonik
Member
I don't know what point you are trying to prove here. He could well have survived. The force might be considered justified if indeed the suspect had been stopped and she does not seek to intentionally kill the guy or apply additional force at the guy.
I am not quoting Jesus. I'm quoting
TheStruggler
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i really hope one of you steal from me one day, I have anxiety brain and if someone steals from me I get this tingly feeling of anxiety where I have to hit that person with my car because, you're not getting away with it
So you don't even take your life advice from fiction that's cool to believe in.
What's your Paypal? I'll donate funds towards a Reaper costume so you can complete your edgelord evolution.
Yes he did survive. But noticed that she's charge with misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon. She didn't get a key for the city from the Mayor cause she stopped a theft.
And as for your quote, it's not 40 B.C. It's 2017. we have a court of law that handles this shit. I don't know what your point is by using some old as Greek proverb like it applies.
King Gilga
Member
lmao sure they would've. The robbery crime clearance rate in america is only like what 20%?
If this woman wanted her purse back she had no choice but to do it herself.
And I applaud her for doing so, just not the method she used to do it. The thief knew what he was getting into and I have zero pity for him. Though I have zero interest in seeing him dead or maimed either, unless he's also a motorcycle thief.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
I like that people assume cops would actually try to get her purse.
TheStruggler
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who cares, she almost killed/paralysed a guy. Call the bank cancel your cards etc. Killing someone over a purse is fucking dumb and its amazing some gaffers dont get it
Astral Dog
Member
Im with her
Again, if she had gotten it back or stopped him, no one here would be complaining. That's not the issue. The issue is she took the law in her own hands when she shouldn't have.
TheStruggler
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why?