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Presidential Debate #1 |Hofstra University| PRESS X TO SEAN

Who won the debate?

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Xe4

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Y2Kev said:
I think people don't even realize how sexist comments are coming across when they say "she doesn't appear likable." Why?
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Can't add to this cause I got to go, but I wholeheartedly agree.

SpaceWolf said:
Trump is done.

No way he can recover from this.
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but he totally can recover. People give Trump way too much leniency. People said he wouldn't recover from the Kahn remarks either, and he did. What he needs is one or two solid debate prefomances, and he can chip away at this horrible night. I don't think he will, bit it can happen.
 
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Lightning_Roller

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Darryl M R said:
Tell them to stay salty. Hillary get every aspect of her appearance criticized but the same people won't even comment on Donald's sniffing fit and his outrageous facial expressions.
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Seriously, they probably think that the sniffling was a ploy by Trump to piss off Hillary or some shit. The mental gymnastics of Trump supporters are something else.
 
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SpacePirate Ridley

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Watching it right now, and as european...
Why the fuck they let people cheer in the audcience when Trump said the thing about the emails?
And why the fuck would someone cheer that shit when he was actually being shit on by the taxes counterargument that is even worse?

Also, I have never seen in my life a politician lie SO MUCH directly to peoples faces. Even the lying politicians try to not look like fucking lying morons when talking publicly.
 
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Pamplemousse

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Ummm, her likability problem, at least for me, has nothing to do with her voice, appearance, sex, etc. It comes down to her coming off as cold and calculating.

Of course, she does get a lot of sexist crap thrown her way because lots of Americans can't handle a strong woman.
 
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Future

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Master Yoshi said:
Last night, I felt reinvigorated that Hillary has this election in the bag. Now I'm back at work, and it's like reality is slapping me in the face. Every person I've asked believes Trump won. It's truly fucking bizarro land.
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People read what they want to read out of the debate. Once Clinton starts speaking points that you guys agree with you think she's destroying him. Reality is that trump sounded like trump the whole time. Never backed down, rambled, changed topics constantly, not PC...... and these are the traits that got him where he is tiday
 
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VariantX

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metalslimer said:
Yep it's why Lester letting Trump just speak worked so well. He shifts so much that if you just let him talk in a subject without challenging he will hang himself.
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I admit, I was totally wrong for saying Lester was absent. If he had took control of the debate, Trump wouldn't have had the time to trail off, ramble incoherently, and self-destruct.
 
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PopeReal

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Pamplemousse said:
Ummm, her likability problem, at least for me, has nothing to do with her voice, appearance, sex, etc. It comes down to her coming off as cold and calculating.

Of course, she does get a lot of sexist crap thrown her way because lots of Americans can't handle a strong woman.
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But how do you see her as cold and calculating? "She smiled too much" is the criticism being lobbed at her today.
 
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Chococat

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drspeedy said:
To be fair, do either of the 2 major candidates seem likable?
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Both are likeable. One is the obvious sane choice to running the country. There other is best on reality TV.

The whole likeability question is bullshit though. This isn't a popularity contest. It is about who can do the job. Not about who you feel more comfortable to set down and have a beer with.
 
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Toxi

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Future said:
People read what they want to read out of the debate. Once Clinton starts speaking points that you guys agree with you think she's destroying him. Reality is that trump sounded like trump the whole time. Never backed down, rambled, changed topics constantly, not PC...... and these are the traits that got him where he is tiday
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People need to stop repeating this. Both of the major polls we've seen since the debate suggest Clinton soundly won.
 
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operon

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Got watching the debate this morning here in the UK.

He got wrecked, how anyone in here can say he won, they're either delusional or being paid to post that. His domestic policy seems to consist of "i'm bringing back the jobs" but won't say how he is going to do it. He could have said i'm going to bring back my clothes suits ties etc that might help. He wants to renegotiate all the US trade deals with every country, forgetting how long they take or that he implies the will all just change it like that. His answer to gun crime was law and order and stop and frisk, so he means lock up more minorities.

His foreign policy is to have the US military act as a protection racket in which he will only fulfill their nato defence obligations if everyone pays up. He won't deal with anyone it seems do diplomacy must be out of the question. He wants to steal oil. How anyone can say or type with a straight face that the 2 candidates are as bad as each other must be delusional, trolling or I don't know. There is no comparison
 
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PopeReal

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Future said:
People read what they want to read out of the debate. Once Clinton starts speaking points that you guys agree with you think she's destroying him. Reality is that trump sounded like trump the whole time. Never backed down, rambled, changed topics constantly, not PC...... and these are the traits that got him where he is tiday
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Which is behind in the polls.

Also he did back down, he even said Hillary was mean to him but he would not say something mean that he wanted to.
 
QuantumZebra

QuantumZebra

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ViewtifulJC said:
Trump will win in November I can feel it

Nothing stops this train
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Servbot24

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platocplx said:
insane. like the guy pays no taxes then complains about the infrastructure. Like hes the problem why our infrastructure is so bad you do not pay your part.
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It's part of his "I'm evil, therefore you can trust me" thing. A bold strategy that has paid off remarkably well.
 
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FortuneFaded

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rdytoroll said:
Did Trump say "build a wall" even once? I haven't heard it, is he dropping it as a campaign point?
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No he didn't.
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He also didn't use the phrase "Make America Great Again" which I'm pretty sure is still his campaign's main slogan.
Edit: Thanks for all the replies in correction. It was 4 in the morning, I was tired.
 
Alebrije

Alebrije

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PopeReal said:
The thing is, Hillary will keep Obama's policies.

Also, your gif doesn't fit. Hillary actually laid out real ideas and plans.
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You can put Bernie , or other candidate instead of Hillary and their worlds would sound more accurate than Trumps ones..

Think Hillary will win not because people like her but because they do not like Trump, I am talking about the neutral ones that have not decided their votes.
 
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Adaren

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drspeedy said:
To be fair, do either of the 2 major candidates seem likable?
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When was the last time you heard someone say "Donald Trump needs to work on being more likable"? He's definitely not likable, but it's a non-issue for him.

Pamplemousse said:
Ummm, her likability problem, at least for me, has nothing to do with her voice, appearance, sex, etc. It comes down to her coming off as cold and calculating.
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Not to harp on this, but...why is she cold? Calculating, sure; she doesn't improve her presidential debates (thank god). But she's a candidate known for her small rallies, personal connections, and elephant memory of the people she meets.
 
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RMI

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Pamplemousse said:
Ummm, her likability problem, at least for me, has nothing to do with her voice, appearance, sex, etc. It comes down to her coming off as cold and calculating.
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TBH cold and calculating are exactly the kind of qualities I would want the president to have,but I don't think she came off that way at all. To me she seemed rather bemused by the flailing garbage fire across the stage from her.
 
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Jeffrey

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hmmm... wonder if Clinton will drill on 'trump has no plan' more in future debates. She dabbled in it a bit with how she called him out on not having not explained a better iran plan.

He really does get flustered and rambling once anyone tries to ask for specifics.


And while it probably isn't good to react to all those nagging 'wrong' trump was interjecting with, but man, oh man would it have been nice if hillary pulled out a printed out screenshot of one of trump's tweets of climate change is a hoax or what not.


Someone should really call him out on his bullshit on a national stage with evidence on hand, telling people to go to hillaryclinton.com isn't really a great option honestly.
 
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jmdajr

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Barzul said:
Funny how the wall never came up? Or did it? Trump really didn't hit any of his major talking points.
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Hmmm. That's true. No Muslims either. Or Benghazi.

We did get to CHINA and MEXICO. So he was pumped about that; and EMAILS.

Clinton also has a lot of ammo left. Wait till we talk about education.
 
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GitarooMan

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I can't wait until they start talking about immigration. I wonder if it will top Trump's embarrassing "law and order" answer to racial healing.
 
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Veelk

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Pamplemousse said:
Ummm, her likability problem, at least for me, has nothing to do with her voice, appearance, sex, etc. It comes down to her coming off as cold and calculating.

Of course, she does get a lot of sexist crap thrown her way because lots of Americans can't handle a strong woman.
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The thing is, you see so many responses like this. "I don't dislike her for sexist reasons, but there are plenty of sexist people out there." It kind of undercuts the idea that few people actually know there sexist, because it is an insidious aspect of culture. I'm not saying you are sexist for saying so, but it's wierd there are so many sexist people when they all say their not sexist, but...

As far as her presentation is concerned, she seems alright for me. Maybe a little reserved, somewhat poor comedic timing that makes some of her deliveries feel forced. But she's no Clair Underwood. Nothing about her acting makes her seem like she's not genuine about what she does or talks about, and that's basically backed up by everything I read about her history.

It's really worth asking yourself how much of your preception of her being cold and calculated is based on reality rather than unconcious bias' is all I'm saying. Because the sexism your talking about is something that affects everyone, including feminists who try to go against it. You can't really escape it just by deeming yourself not sexist.
 
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Meowster

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It's funny how some are clinging to online polls and Twitter to say that Trump overwhelmingly won. Were these people Bernie Sanders supporters? That's not how it works.
 
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Toxi

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Badenergytroll said:
So the media is saying the Clinton won, and will gain in the polls? What do you guys think? A lot of online-user polls say Trump won.
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Don't worry, online user polls are meaningless. The minute they go up, they're posted on places like r/the_donald so as many people there can answer as possible.
 
Arkos

Arkos

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I get to work and they're like, "Yeah but don't you think Hillary sounded kind of robotic?"

Lololololol
 
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