karasu
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Ken Bone started a twitter account because of his fame and he is a total sweetheart. He's still undecided though. 0_o
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Presidential Debate #2 |Washington University| Grab me right in the Ken Bone
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Something about why Nintendo chose not to adopt cd format on the n64 and thus inherently caused FF to move to Sony.
Or maybe it was about new energy considerations and how to minimize job loss when transitioning from fossil fuels...I can't recall which of the above he asked.
And Trump is able to? What kind of fantasy world do you live in?
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
The world where UK exits the european union. Sadly.
karasu
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This shit needs to die. What's so empathy-inducing or likeable about a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, silver spoon child who wants to be a fucking dictator?
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Every country has its idiots, true
Lord Frieza
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Fox_Mulder said:
Micheal Moore, is that you?
EDIT: Oh, it's stupid fucking Brexit comparison, urgh, even worse. I wish it had been Moore now.
I don't disagree with you're reasoning, but you're missing the overall strategy that Clinton is employing. She's laughing it off because it's such a nonsense thing for him to say, she isn't going to acknowledge it, she's not even going to give him any credence. She did something with his acquisitions of the Clinton campaign starting the Birtherism movement (something that has been debunked many, many times). She didn't even acknowledge his attempt to bait her into saying something about it, she laughed it off, and she went on, as if it didn't even warrant a real response.
Now, of course, it is a very serious thing to say since he has the potential to be POTUS, but the last thing she needs to do is get flustered over comments like that. It not even reinforces what they said, it gives that zinger more credence to survive as the thing that could totally under her skin. It's Clinton staying cool under the intense pressure of potentially being jailed if her opponent wins.
Audioboxer
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Heh.
And to be honest don't roast the guy too much for saying he is "undecided". Remember there are genuine people to be won away from Trump that don't need to be nuked savagely just because they aren't 100% Hillary as of yet.
In saying that the guy is now going to see the wrath of the trolls and Trump supporters on Twitter so he'll probably be 100% Hillary in 48 hours.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
And they are more than we think. And they vote.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Politics isn't and shouldn't be about playing to the least of us.
If you really think Trump's performance in that debate locked him in as president...I dunno
Lord Frieza
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And there's a large amount of minorities in our country. And they vote. And there's a large amount of women in our country. And they vote. And there's a large amount of people who aren't idiots in our country. And they vote.
Good thing the US is not relying on idiots(white men) to give Hillary the victory.
So Trump has been bleeding Republican support for the past few days, lost the debate according to the polls we have so far, made a fool of himself touting Bill's victims, and really hasn't done anything positive for the last two weeks, but you think he's going to win because "Brexit".
Okay.
Lord Frieza
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Fixed for better accuracy. Good original edit, too, that could've been bad.
While Trump's base is mostly uneducated white people, I'd be careful making comments like this.
What if we released a new Transformers movie on election day. 🤔
Crimson_Gold
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Brexit has broken many. Now they just want to see the world descend into chaos as the pound sterling continues to fall
Oh christ, don't make me dive back into non-Ken Bone speaking parts of that shitshow.
IIRC:
Clinton was all about moving towards renewable energy ASAP and trying to mitigate the environmental damage in the meantime + making/keeping America energy-independent.
Trump: something, TREMENDOUS, something. Boo Obama. Up with business, down with environment. CLEAN COAL. Probably an entire thesaurus worth of great synonyms. And some mention of ISIS/Russia/China for good measure.
Sorry if I'm being bias, but every line from Trump has coiled into one TREMENDOUS ball in my head and I can only paraphrase to keep my sanity.
Chaos2Frozen
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Isn't CoD near Election Day?
ErasureAcer
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There are so many broad swipes all over the place on GAF regarding any controversial topic. Stereotypes run high here and they all make me sick.
Lord Frieza
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It's almost as bad as people who compare Trump and his rise to Hitler. It's like...come on, people. I understand the appeal of broad strokes and all, but there comes a point where you just sound foolish.
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Clinton: "Its just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country"
Trump: "Because youd be in jail"
So this is how despots happen. This is a man who threatens to jail his political opponent, vows to blow people up and start wars over rude gestures, promises to expand stop and frisk, urges supporters to monitor voting in "certain areas", claims a judge with Mexican heritage cannot fairly preside over his cases. And a thousand more.
And a huge percentage of the country applauds him. He has caused intense damage to the political system that won't be fixed even if he loses. The fact that anyone would take that as winning this debate is horrifying, because it shows how incredibly quickly we adapt to awful, anti-democratic tactics. How quickly they can become the new normal. I have hate in my heart for Donald Trump and honestly we all should. A crushing defeat in the election would help but still wouldn't fix the damage he's doing.
Trump: "Because youd be in jail"
So this is how despots happen. This is a man who threatens to jail his political opponent, vows to blow people up and start wars over rude gestures, promises to expand stop and frisk, urges supporters to monitor voting in "certain areas", claims a judge with Mexican heritage cannot fairly preside over his cases. And a thousand more.
And a huge percentage of the country applauds him. He has caused intense damage to the political system that won't be fixed even if he loses. The fact that anyone would take that as winning this debate is horrifying, because it shows how incredibly quickly we adapt to awful, anti-democratic tactics. How quickly they can become the new normal. I have hate in my heart for Donald Trump and honestly we all should. A crushing defeat in the election would help but still wouldn't fix the damage he's doing.
sechsterangriff
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After the Brexit vote I'm really scared this will endup in the same way, in that a huge portion of the voter base just won't get off their asses.
Maedre
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Thank you. Clean coal... haha..hahahahaha
How can a man who answered a question about him talking about abusing women with "locker room talk" and "ISIS ISIS ISIS" for a start and rambled through the rest of the debate not be universally considered the clear loser AND laughed out of politics forever?
That's a DISASTER (wow, he really likes that wors).
That's a DISASTER (wow, he really likes that wors).
Or people get too confident that Trump won't win and feel their vote isn't required. A lot of people were confident Brexit wouldn't happen and then it did.
Haunted
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I understand the fear, but looking at the facts and numbers, there's no need to panic just yet. In fact, things are looking pretty good for Clinton.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#plus
If we're looking for valid comparisons to other modern fascists, Trump's brand of populism lines up much more closely with Mussolini.
There are certainly parallels to be drawn to Hitler, but let's not go overboard here.
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No.
See, go back to the question about Islamophobia - Are you trying to tell me that 1) she didn't come across empathetic, and 2) Trump did? That's just... silly. Sorry.
Maedre
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That are 22.4% to much for Trump.
Starwolf_UK
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Thanks for this.
It's much worse in the full. Spin a question on education to crime, spin a question about sexual assault into something like "you know the real predators are, ISIS. Think about it"..and I'm barely 15 minutes in...
Lord Frieza
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*Sigh*
I hate to tell you this, but Trump really didn't break anything. I've often said, and stand by this, Trump himself really doesn't matter much to how he got here. He got here, because the system was already infected, it was already 'broken.' One of our parties is so disenfranchised, so polarized, and has spent so long (way before Trump as President was even an idea, probably) drip feeding toxic rhetoric into their base to open the door to the crazy house, they created this. They "broke" the system. Not Trump. Trump is really just a cult of personality who happened to be somewhere at the right time, when the fever pitch was at its highest. This was really an eventuality. The overestimation of both Trump as a candidate, and Trump's actual ability to do what he did, will forever be the hidden narrative of the 2016 election.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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At this rate Trump could literally shit on the podium and some people would still call it a win.
"He resonates with the youth"
"He didn't get any on Clinton"
"It was a healthy-looking stool for a 70 year old man"
"He resonates with the youth"
"He didn't get any on Clinton"
"It was a healthy-looking stool for a 70 year old man"
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I think there is a silent group that will be voting in large numbers for Trump come the time.
I think he's going to win.
I think he's going to win.
Haunted
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Tell me about it.
Still, probably the best odds you can hope for considering this is the country that voted George W. Bush into office twice.
I think it just shows how much people have been shaken by the surprising Brexit decision.
You can easily draw some parallels, but many people go too far and fall into the a correlation fallacy (because the polling was wrong and Leave won, the polls will be wrong again and Trump will win). Honestly, it just shows that people are unsure, insecure and afraid.
Yeah, if Hillary's team was in charge of the Remain campaign, they'd have won. Also, if the British media had gone after Boris as much as the Washington Post has gone after Trump, things would be drastically different.
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The UK press are calling it a draw.
Not quite. I think she'd rather watch his candidacy slowly implode.
Lord Frieza
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Agreed.
That and, honestly, just really ignorant of the facts. It's a mean thing to say, perhaps, but it's apt.
Oh, The Silent Majority, the silent boogeyman since the 1970s. People said the same thing about Romney, and this election is echoing 2012 in a lot of ways people don't understand. Romney never tanked like Trump (has twice), but people following electorate polling saw that Obama was almost always the favorite to win. The Silent Majority didn't help a vanilla ass candidate like Romney, why are they going to come out and vote for the most polarizing candidate in living memory? Do you think the Silent Majority is more terrified of vagina than they are of a black man or something
Crimson_Gold
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You're from the UK right?
The issue with this line of thinking is that it requires a lot of wishful thinking to happen. Will he get votes? Yes. But there isnt some secret pro-trump army waiting to vote for him when no one is looking. He has a demographic. He has people that vote for anyonr with an R by their name. But minorities, women, and many others will be voting in mass to stop him from winning
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cyberheater
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Yes they will. I expect this to be the biggest voter turn out in history.
Lord Frieza
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What are you basing this idea on?
EDIT: Wait, what, you just said a few minutes ago you thought Trump was going to win. I'm confused.
Haunted
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Sure. Fear makes people irrational. Emotions tend to overpower facts.
That populist messaging is so good at exploiting these fears right now is arguably at the core of this whole mess. :lol
If you're looking at the demographics, the more people vote, the better it is for the democrats. That's why Republicans are so keen on passing all these Voter ID laws to suppress the vote.
"the biggest voter turnout in history" would spell certain doom for Trump's chances.
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This is the most heated US election I've ever witnessed. I think the voter turn out will be huge. In other words. As many folks that can vote will vote.
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He did it himself
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