Pressing "NO TIP" when paying your barber is one of the most awkward interactions
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ElectricKaibutsu
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No, that's fine. Cash is getting more and more rare.
Naw man, you'll be good. There's a spot on the receipt to leave a tip if needed. You should carry some small bills while on vacation anyways, it's good practice in a foreign country.
Doominated
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Because all the scummy non-tippers would ignore it anyway
For food it never matters, if you are tipping on a restaurant bill or grubhub order that's cool. For services like barbers I always thought they preferred cash but that could just be me projecting.
Everyone prefers cash. When you get tipped on a card you cant avoid reporting it.
Zen_Arcade
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I love how you think that the server not risking their job to call you out makes you look like any less of a dick in that situation.
No one is going to fight you over it, but if they did an adequate job and you still don't tip no amount of cockiness gets you out of looking like an asshole.
If you can't afford the tip stay home and make your own food.
Thanks! My concern was mostly about fair attribution of the tip when I used my card.
Oh yeah! I always take some out every morning (as a way to try to keep myself to a budget), but usually by night I'm already paying exclusively with card.
Oh yeah! I always take some out every morning (as a way to try to keep myself to a budget), but usually by night I'm already paying exclusively with card.
Osukaa
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I wish I could have each place that expects a tip, sign an agreement with your words written on it lol
exactly.
VeteranGamer
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Wow... you should tip a barber
PatThePassive
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You thank people in retail, and the bus driver, you tip your barber and servers, and you don't give anyone that requires a co-payment anything, they are getting plenty of money.
Tipping a barber is already a thing so your fighting nothing, if you don't think a haircut is worth the total plus tip you should go to a cheaper barber.
Tipping a barber is already a thing so your fighting nothing, if you don't think a haircut is worth the total plus tip you should go to a cheaper barber.
M0nochromatic
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Tipping is great in the same way scalpers are great. The more money you can spend, the better your service is, or the product you'r looking for is more easily acquired.
It sucks if you don't have the cash, sure, but that's reality.
It sucks if you don't have the cash, sure, but that's reality.
Maintenance
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Thanks for confirming that both are shit.
PatThePassive
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You tip after the service, so they should be giving everyone the same quality of service in the hopes that you will leave a tip, I've never tipped my barber before my haircut.
If the waiter is slow and you tip 40% the shitty service isn't retroactively improved or you take more haircuts home to sell on ebay later, not a very good analogy
valkillmore
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I shave my own head at home then buy a six pack, I win.
shawnbuddy
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At the place where I get my haircut, after swiping my credit card, the barber hands me their phone and the Square app asks if I'd like to tip 15, 20, or 25%.
Like this:
I have a no-tip policy for hair cutters because I don't want to enable tips becoming an obligatory thing for the hair industry, like restaurants.
So naturally, I press "NO TIP", hand the phone back to this person while avoiding eye contact, exchange a quick "thanks" and casually speed towards the door asap. It never stops being awkward.
Anyone else experience this awkward interaction every few weeks too?
PS. Food trucks do this too, but I feel way less awkward about it since...why the fuck would I tip a food truck?
It's awkward because you know you're wrong.
The main misconception I always see in these threads is that employers are ripping people off by not paying a fair wage.
As someone who has had at least 70 percent of my income from tips the past 6 years, this is just flat out wrong. Tipping allows servers to make MORE money by having a felxible service charge. If I was a server or a driver at a place that bumped pay to 8.25 an hour and got rid of tips, I would quit on the spot. The jobs are great because they allow you to make more than 10 an hour for very difficult and stressful work.
If an employer wanted to abolish tips and pay me the 13 an hour that I average, cool, but that's not happening.
As someone who has had at least 70 percent of my income from tips the past 6 years, this is just flat out wrong. Tipping allows servers to make MORE money by having a felxible service charge. If I was a server or a driver at a place that bumped pay to 8.25 an hour and got rid of tips, I would quit on the spot. The jobs are great because they allow you to make more than 10 an hour for very difficult and stressful work.
If an employer wanted to abolish tips and pay me the 13 an hour that I average, cool, but that's not happening.
Seriously? Is that legal?
It reminds me of that episode of Kitchen Nightmare with Amy's Baking Company.
Robot Pants
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I can't imagine a lot of them going outside the house
Kralamoonard
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I live in the UK and didn't know you had to tip barbers (I normally do at restaurants). Now I feel bad...any UK gaffers give me further insight into this? I mean I'm a student, but if it's the norm, then an extra £2 or something wouldn't hurt...but judging by this thread, it's abnormal NOT to tip. Maybe it's a regional thing, idk.
Wizard of GAF
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Can someone who's worked in the industry tell me, why I should tip and not the other way around ? Assuming I'm on a below minimum wage job and decided to treat my self to the establishment you work at. And because of my predicament, should you, the server, "tip" me a potato or two?
sssstententen
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Always shocks me how liberal gaf is for civil matters but how damn stingy/greedy/fiscally conservative a lot of the community can be. You see it in tipping threads, tax related threads, job threads, financial advice threads, etc.
Tipping is a part of American culture whether you like it or not. At the end of the day, the only person you're hurting when you don't tip is the server/barber/driver/service provider. You already paid the company. So congrats on your "win".
If you don't wanna tip, don't eat out someplace that requires it, or just add 18% gratuity by default every time, because that's the real cost of the item. Food at resturaunts is cheap because they can afford to slash costs because of miniscule labor costs.
But whatever, ya'll are just assholes, me or any of the other sane folks in here won't change any of you guys set in your ways. Its just venting.
I scratch your back, you scratch mine. I can't count on both hands and feet the number of free drinks/extra food/comp'ed stuff I've gotten for being a great tipper. Throw a $20 at the barkeep, he'll remember you. That next round of shots might just happen to miss your bill. You're really picky and particular about your meal/like a bit extra? That server you always treat well who remembers you is gonna hook you up. Spend well at the barber? You know theyre gonna put extra care to make sure you're satisfied and coming back again and again.
Also, if you're so strapped for cash? Why are you eating out? If you wanna save money, cook at home. Food service is exaclty what is sounds like, you're being served in every sense of the term, and it doesn't come cheap.
Tipping is a part of American culture whether you like it or not. At the end of the day, the only person you're hurting when you don't tip is the server/barber/driver/service provider. You already paid the company. So congrats on your "win".
If you don't wanna tip, don't eat out someplace that requires it, or just add 18% gratuity by default every time, because that's the real cost of the item. Food at resturaunts is cheap because they can afford to slash costs because of miniscule labor costs.
But whatever, ya'll are just assholes, me or any of the other sane folks in here won't change any of you guys set in your ways. Its just venting.
I scratch your back, you scratch mine. I can't count on both hands and feet the number of free drinks/extra food/comp'ed stuff I've gotten for being a great tipper. Throw a $20 at the barkeep, he'll remember you. That next round of shots might just happen to miss your bill. You're really picky and particular about your meal/like a bit extra? That server you always treat well who remembers you is gonna hook you up. Spend well at the barber? You know theyre gonna put extra care to make sure you're satisfied and coming back again and again.
Also, if you're so strapped for cash? Why are you eating out? If you wanna save money, cook at home. Food service is exaclty what is sounds like, you're being served in every sense of the term, and it doesn't come cheap.
It actually depends a lot on the restaurant and the type of patronage present.
Regardless of how it shakes out though, tipping is absolutely designed to reduce costs to the employer.
I grew up very poor. Poor people don't save up to go to fancy restaurants. If you think about it. $100 plus 20%. $120, that's enough money to pay for groceries for nearly two weeks. Sorry dude, but you're out of touch with this, like really out of touch. We always have to take into consideration, this much money could pay for this much of a basic living expense, rent, bills, etc. A fancy meal to a poor person is something akin to Applebee's ($20 or $30 total) and even then we always tipped at least 20%, because even though we're struggling doesn't automatically mean we forget about other people out there struggling.
Poor people are actually more generous from my experience, because they actually know what it's like to not have enough money to pay for the electric bill and have your power cut off. People that are well-off are blind to this kind of shit and just push their bullshit values to come off as high and mighty. I'm logical, I get the same service at Applebee's as I do the fancy steak house in NYC, why should I pay more for the service???? Maybe because that person is working their ass off and more than likely had to have a shit ton of experience to get a job at a place that has $100 bills? You're really out of touch if you think people in the service industry put on a fake face just to nickel and dime you, I made tons of friends working at restaurants because I loved the people. But yes, let's make boogeymen out of the person bringing you food and trying to give you a nice experience. It's not the norm to think there should be a universal tip dollar value; it's really nothing other than to justify your shitty values.
It's actually common. If you're a regular and you're a good tipper; I'll more than likely not charge you for a drink, surprise them with a free appetizer or dessert, give them more food, or something of the sort. I always took extra good care of the regular people, personally.
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Transhuman
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You take items and don't charge people who in return give you money that you don't give to the business? That sounds like stealing.
You know what I hate? When I pay with my card and don't get the option to leave a tip on the receipt or otherwise. I don't carry cash so it makes me feel kinda shitty, but I guess its their own fault for not giving me the option to tip? I usually opt to not go to places like that again. I'm not gonna start carrying cash just to leave tips.
Yup. You're probably right. Being poor sucks, huh?
The busniess is fine with this it keeps people coming back.
Making willfully ignorant shitposts accusing people of stealing is pretty gross bro.
milanbaros
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If I pay you money directly then you'll take the owner's property and give it to me for free?
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for you.
texhnolyze
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Occasional freebies are kind of expected and sometimes encouraged in bars and restaurants. That's the purpose of running a comp tab.....so all the free stuff being given away can be accounted for and authorized by managers. Bartenders are generally trusted to know when and how often they should give away stuff.
Chairmanchuck
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Rent a stall - business expense
Maintain a barbers license - business expense
Not getting many customers - business risk
If you rely on the tips and NEED them, just raise the prices of your services and say "No tips needed".
Just from my european perspective...
EchoChamber
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What's next? Tipping after a nice blowjob?
Space Wanderer
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I didn't tip my barber yesterday as I didn't have any cash and now I feel bad every time I see this thread. She was working hard for it too, complimenting me and stuff. Felt extremely awkward as I paid and left.
Subpar Scrub
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He does charge more, for cuts that have specific needs or are for longer hair. Mine is super simple, so I get charged less than he advertises and I tip him. It's fine.
His business isn't failing, it's doing fairly well from what he tells me, but it does g...
Wait, I'm talking to transhuman, what the fuck am I doing.
GuitarGuruu
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What the hell? I've never heard of someone not tipping a stylist.
StopMakingSense
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The barber doesn't set the price of the haircut. The shop does. The barber gets a small cut of the fee.
The thing is though, it's not for free is it? You're just charging them over the odds up front due to tipping.
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