Seems dumb but I'm not a cop or a parade coordinator so whatever.
I mean I get the general impression from Canadians that cops aren't as terrible there? So there will be 10-20 less cops in uniform on a float... what about the hundreds working the parade?
Uhh if protesters crash the parade and start to become violent who will protect the Pride marchers?
Okay? What point are you clumsily trying to make here?
Let me guess, you think there is no mistreatment of black people by police because BLM Toronto called Trudeau a white supremacist?
Hey look it's the same thing Pride has been saying forever.
Watch people continue to be purposefully obtuse and talk about the poor police are being discriminated against and other stupid shit.
BLM Toronto was responsible for pressuring the LGBTQ community's removal of the cops from the Gay Pride parade.
+ anyone who claims that Justin Trudeau is a White Supremesict loses all credibiltiy in any debate or discussion
woudln't be better for the cops to be present and be involved in community outreach?I know what they are responsible for. Does what they said mean there isn't an issue with how police treat black people?
woudln't be better for the cops to be present and be involved in community outreach?
they can start by not abusing and/or executing members of the community
The leader of BLM Toronto (Yusra Khogali) is a racist, listen to her comments about refugees and immigrants.
I loved that you danced around the question. Does what they said mean there is no issue with how black people are treated by the police.woudln't be better for the cops to be present and be involved in community outreach?
have you ever seen how cops intereacted in past Pride Parades? They are right in it having fun with the paraders.
alienating the cops from the parade doesn't HELP, it just creates mores sckismsms.
The leader of BLM Toronto is a racist, listen to her comments about refugees and immigrants.
Ah there it is. You think there is no mistreatment of black people by the police in Toronto don't you?Toronto.... not New York City or LA
She's poison to the movement. I cannot believe people like her are allowed to lead such an important organization. Her views are not only toxic, they're idiotic.
I loved that you danced around the question. Does what they said mean there is no issue with how black people are treated by the police.
Cops don't treat black people well and maybe, just maybe it is uncomfortable for some black people to have police being celebrated at pride parade.
You know there are black people in the LGBT community right? Seems like a few don't get that.
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Ah there it is. You think there is no mistreatment of black people by the police in Toronto don't you?
Toronto.... not New York City or LA
still happens in Canada
BLM Toronto has been hijacked by a nutjob who thinks that refugees and immigrants are conpsiracy to increase the number of "whites" LOL in society. That is what Yusra Khogali thinks.
of corse there is mistreatment of Black and First Nations people in Canadian cities and in rural areas. That is true. And cops need to be better trained to not treat POC that way.
But you are talking about cop shootings; that my friend is not the case in Canadian cities. The last TO cop who shot at a troubled young man with knife on a bus got sentenced to jail.
So the cops shootings statistics in Canada really does not compare to your American situation which is more allarming due to your country's gun culture.
Did we miss this part? I didn't say shit about people being shot, I wrote "mistreatment".they can start by not abusing and/or executing members of the community
beatings, profiling and mistreatment. Yes it does happen.
but he was talking about shootings... that almost never happens.
and when it did, the cop was charged
Did we miss this part? I didn't say shit about people being shot, I wrote "mistreatment".
You have yet to answer the question about BLM, by the way.
Point out where I wrote anything about shootings.
You're just making shit up to support your flimsy argument.
other posters on page 1 brought up "US" cases and examples when it pertains to LOLRONTO, as if it was an an American city when it is not
You were referring to me, no? Point out where I mentioned shootings for me please.but he was talking about shootings... that almost never happens.
You were referring to me, no? Point out where I mentioned shootings for me please.
So does what BLM Toronto said about Trudeau mean they are incorrect about how black people are treated by police?
I don't think people are being deliberately obtuse. It doesn't say anywhere in the article there will still be police working the parade and it reads like the organisers want zero sign of police presence. It was however clarified on the first page when I asked the same question so maybe people ought to read the whole thread before posting.The police working security and not participating in the parade?
How is this so difficult to understand? It's like some of you are being deliberately obtuse.
No, we're not both correct. You little video had dick all to do with the argument I was making about BLM having issue with police at a pride parade.yes black people are treated poorly by cops.
also BLM TO's leader ranting about Justin Trudeau, refugees and immigrants make them look foolish and non-debatable
so we are both right
White people should stay home. And all males too. You know what, nobody gets to march. Y'all go home. Ah Equality.
The line of thinking that every cop is bad and the whole profession should stand accountable for a certain percentage of bad apples is as bad as...racism and discrimination towards minorities shown by law enforcement
probably just the uniforms worn by groups that that historically and systematically terrorized the community.
No, we're not both correct. You little video had dick all to do with the argument I was making about BLM having issue with police at a pride parade.
Now that we have that nonsense out of the way, what about the shooting nonsense?
Going to post links to where I wrote that?
that is the leadesrsip of Toronto's chapter, it has everything to do with it.
that is the driving force of the TO chapters.
BLM TO chapter cannot be debated with. besides, I have a defect according to them LOLIt has no baring on this particular issue. What was said about Trudeau doesn't mean they are incorrect about this.
Have those posts about me talking about shooting yet?
Wait, being a cop is the same as being male or white?
BLM TO chapter cannot be debated with. besides, I have a defect according to them LOL
Certain people of those orientations have historically and systematically presecuted and continue to presecute miniorities so I think we should ban all people of those orientations from the parade. I mean they can show up if they want as long as they don't wear their white or female uniforms.
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So links to shooting posts I made?
So race and gender are the same as a chosen profession, correct? A profession that continues to have policy that negatively affects PoC. Can the same be said about race and gender?
case closedYou have a point, genius?
case closed
So race and gender are the same as a chosen profession, correct? A profession that continues to have policy that negatively affects PoC. Can the same be said about race and gender?
They be telling me to be proud of who you are as long as you're not a piece of shit. Black is beautiful. Girls run the world. But happen to be a cop who just wants to do something that matters and may be serve his community ? Get the fuck out of here and not before you answer for the crime of everyone on the continent that has the same profession.
I hope people see the logical fallacy here. Pride prade is about saying to the world that we are proud of who we are and we love who we are. Well unless you happen to be this one profession and unless you made this one career choice. In that case, fuck you.
Pride is about being proud of your profession?
yes black people are treated poorly by cops.
also BLM TO's leader ranting about Justin Trudeau, refugees and immigrants make them look foolish and non-debatable
so we are both right
Not really. Since about the 90's the police force has been trying to be more open with the lgbtq community in the city. This was in large part to try to shed a lot of their misstatement of them prior to the 90's. They cleaned up a lot of the old brass nonsense and up until this all started up the police involvement was seen as a positive step to making the lgtbq community feel comfortable with them.Honest question: Before BLM got involved, was there much criticism of the police taking part in the parade in years past?
Honest question: Before BLM got involved, was there much criticism of the police taking part in the parade in years past?
The issue here is that no one seems to be able to come up with much in the way of examples of the Toronto police doing anything wrong. Unless your argument is that all police in all countries are somehow a part of some evil power structure to suppress minorities.probably just the uniforms worn by groups that that historically and systematically terrorized the community.
The issue here is that no one seems to be able to come up with much in the way of examples of the Toronto police doing anything wrong. Unless your argument is that all police in all countries are somehow a part of some evil power structure to suppress minorities.
The issue here is that no one seems to be able to come up with much in the way of examples of the Toronto police doing anything wrong. Unless your argument is that all police in all countries are somehow a part of some evil power structure to suppress minorities.
I am guessing not as much as you which I am sure nullifies any opinion I have.Genuinely asking: What do you know about Pride Toronto?
I am guessing not as much as you which I am sure nullifies any opinion I have.