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And how did David know how to interact with everything? The rune light switch magic button thingies, and the egg-shaped plushy buttons he pressed to start the holograms?

It looked to me more like he just pressed everything he saw and hoped something happened.
 
And how did David know how to interact with everything? The rune light switch magic button thingies, and the egg-shaped plushy buttons he pressed to start the holograms?

He "studied" ancient languages for two years on the ships The writing must have had a similar root. It sort of sounded like Hindi or Sanskrit. Which is quite a nice connection, at least. Linguists believe a lot of modern language can be traced back to Sanskrit.
 
And how did David know how to interact with everything? The rune light switch magic button thingies, and the egg-shaped plushy buttons he pressed to start the holograms?

The best part was

"David, stop touching everything and leave the gotdamn door alo--"

"Herp derp, I figured it out, door's open, let's go in."
 
And for what reason did the space jockey in the prologue suicide himself?

Now that one I know! He killed himself and left his DNA to provide life to planet Earth.

Which makes Shaw's discovery that yes, the Space Jockeys and humans have the same DNA, hit with the weight of a bean bag, but there ya go.
 
Yeah, for a supposedly subservient android, David was pretty fucking shitty at following orders.

David, don't touch that button! *David touched button and opens door*
David, don't touch anything in here! *David straight up steals weird alien vial*
David, turn on your monitor so I can see what you're doing! *David turns it on briefly then shuts it off*

David is the ultimate troll.
 
And then that whole ab surgery scene happened, which is REALLY intense and suspenseful and is a super huge moment for the character and possibly everybody on board because HOLY SHIT THIS ALIEN THING JUST CAME OUT OF MY FUCKIN' BODY AND ITS HERE ON THE SHIP and....nothing. Nobody reacts to any of it, there's no drama to follow up on the event, it just happens and then it doesn't matter. The whole movie is FILLED with shit like this.

So you have a bunch of ciphers for characters whose motivations change from scene to scene whenever the plot demands it, things that just happen for little rhyme or reason and no one seems to give a damn, with vague oddities happening every so often meant to make you question and interested in the plot, when for me it does just the opposite. There's that one scene where Idris Elba comes in and kinda explains the plot to Shaw for whatever reason and that they got to leave, and she asks, "Don't you want to know the answers?" "...I don't care"

And that's my overall feeling. I don't care about a single one of these characters and I'm not given any reason to, and the plot stops and starts so many times, with so little answers or real character motivations, that I completely lose interest. My overriding feeling after seeing the film was, "Uh...it was very pretty?"

Damn shame this was the best script they could come up with, because the visuals, direction, and actors were all top notch. Utterly wasted on a shit screenplay.

Seriously the infestations are so dumb. After the alien is taken out of her, she just walks into Wayland's room and basically sits down to relax. Wow, so much for all that shit David! Imagine if the alien had bursted elsewhere than right in the fucking alien-killing-operation machine.

But worst, the alien is just hanging out in the rescue pod section for the rest of the movie, banging on the walls. And when she comes back at the end of the movie, there's an axe there for whatever reason. And then the space jokey shows up like Michael fucking Myers ready to strangle her because he's angry, only to get face-hugged by a giant cartoon.

So cheap.

lol, does no one even find out about the pregnancy aside from David?

No one... cared. I think.

Shaw is super mobile for someone who just gave herself a cesarean.

Good thing the operation table could figure out things needed to get done so pronto she had to have her belly stapled like a plank of wood. The thing was on hurry-I-got-a-chest-buster-in-my-stomach mode.

And how did David know how to interact with everything? The rune light switch magic button thingies, and the egg-shaped plushy buttons he pressed to start the holograms?

He learned Swahili.

edit: Eggs and a flute, fucking A.
 
MOVIES THAT PROMETHEUS REMINDS ME OF : A REMEMBRANCE OF THINGS PAST : AN ONGOING SERIES : PART 1:

The first movie that Prometheus reminds me of is Dan Aykroyd's bizarre cult b-movie/ridiculous vanity project, Nothing But Trouble.

Can you guess why?


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After Weyland finally shows up for no good reason whatsoever and Vickers reveals that she is his daughter (why is this supposed to shock us?), I pretty much wished I was watching Nothing But Trouble instead. Then I wished that they had cast Humpty Hump as the gruff captain of the Prometheus.
 
Mother!

Son!

Father!

It's deep characterization.

I hope this is not a taste of what the Blade Runner sequel will be like. It's getting closer to the "replicant factory must be blown up before they take over the world" realm of possibilities after Prometheus.
 

But don’t expect to see Lindelof (who recently suggested that his appetite for big space stories had been sated for the time being) to step back into the writer’s chair for it.

“I had [Prometheus] for the period of time that I was running the race, and if that story continues, it could actually benefit going into someone else’s able hand,” Lindelof told THR. “Although, I feel like some of the iceberg below the water for any potential future movies in that storyline has already been constructed based on conversations that Ridley and I had about it.”
Awesome. I hope to god he doesn't backtrack from this statement.
 
After Weyland finally shows up for no good reason whatsoever and Vickers reveals that she is his daughter (why is this supposed to shock us?), I pretty much wished I was watching Nothing But Trouble instead.

He was just confirming that she is an Android just like David is his son in case you hadn't guessed that already by that point of the movie.
 
He was just confirming that she is an Android just like David is his son in case you hadn't guessed that already by that point of the movie.

Vickers is not an android. I can't believe people really think this, but then I kind of can considering how shitty her characterization is in the film.
 
He was just confirming that she is an Android just like David is his son in case you hadn't guessed that already by that point of the movie.

Which demonstrates how fucking useless this was. Outright writer-wankery. Either way it went, whether she was his actual daughter (slow-aging or whatever) or a robot, it changed nothing to the story, and now she is flattened dead like a pancake.
 
Vickers is not an android. I can't believe people really think this, but then I kind of can considering how shitty her characterization is in the film.

What? Has it been 100% confirmed that she isn't? Because going off just the movie, she is Weyland's daughter just like David is his son.

But like you said, not that it really matters one way or another.
 
What? Has it been 100% confirmed that she isn't? Because going off just the movie, she is Weyland's daughter just like David is his son.

But like you said, not that it really matters one way or another.

David is an android that was created for the son he always wanted. That was never something hidden. There was no reason to hide something like Vickers in this movie.

You also have the fact that Vickers goes into cryo-sleep, does exercises to ward of the effects of atrophy, then has a deleted scene after she fries one of the crew where Elba consoles her on her decision.

Also, it would make no sense since her objective and David's are completely contradictory.
 
And for what reason did the space jockey in the prologue suicide himself?

This is one I don't mind. He could have been abandoned by the others, maybe an experiment, maybe even just killing himself and we were nothing more than an accident that they found amusing.

The ending fits to it also. Not all questions need an answer and it works very well in with exploring the unknown. Even if the answer may not exist. Also how Holloway mentioned about wanting to know why to David. Its actually one of the few points I thought the script did well with.

The problem is they decided to just keep adding more shit on top of it. Weyland's addition was pointless for example. Just another shitty twist over in 5 minutes. Also making Vickers his daughter, again. Fucking useless.

Also a side note on the Organic Ooze. Its kind of funny in a way how this would have made more sense if they kept the original method of Alien reproduction. Where one would be composed down to the egg and another used as a person to hatch the alien. Basically creating a perfect, self sustain creature.\


And Vickers is not an android. Elba is just a pimp.


Yeah, for a supposedly subservient android, David was pretty fucking shitty at following orders.

David, don't touch that button! *David touched button and opens door*
David, don't touch anything in here! *David straight up steals weird alien vial*
David, turn on your monitor so I can see what you're doing! *David turns it on briefly then shuts it off*

David is the ultimate troll.

I actually liked that about him. Rather than being like Ash or Bishop who were very passive(Well, till one needed to be aggressive). I like that he has a very curious nature to him. Would have been a much better angle to take with him taking up the Space Jockey's mantle of playing god. Rather than one appearing, Weyland, and whatever shit.
 
Since the movie felt it didn't have to explain the story to me, perhaps I can find some answers in here....


What was David doing this entire film? Why did he infect Charlie? Why the heck did Mohawk guy come back to life? What the hell was David's goal in Shaw getting pregnant?

This movie made no sense!
 
Since the movie felt it didn't have to explain the story to me, perhaps I can find some answers in here....


What was David doing this entire film? Why did he infect Charlie? Why the heck did Mohawk guy come back to life?

This movie made no sense!

I assumed he infected Charlie to see what would happen.
 
I didn't really care for were Shaw and David flying off into space for buddy comedy adventures and the gigantic facehugger. How would that thing have gained so much mass?


I was personally excited about the prospect of the sequel of a maybe vengeance film. That I liked.

The gigantic facehugger works for me. It grew into a foetus in 10 hours (3 months pregnant) - how/so much mass? Its sci fi.

Someone's impregnated with an alien baby.

No one cares.

That same person just had an abortion.

No one cares.

That alien baby is locked in a room.

No one cares.

Weyland is alive and on the ship.

No one cares.

Wasn't impactful enough to show. You want a drama? Watch a drama. Its also directors/editors choice. You can edit and show people talking about it; but who wants to watch that?

I'm going to watch Lawrence again this weekend to celebrate the Fass. Best part of the movie and best android in the whole Alien sequence.

He was mesmerising to watch. Thats for sure. My eyes were always on him; even when he was pouring vodka.

-The Xenomorph reveal at the end could've been an after the credits scene.


No. I hate that. i really do. I missed Avengers' etc and its just stupid



I have to agree with serte and others who have said the same in the past - they shouldn't have bothered with the opening scene where the engineer sacrifices himself to 'seed' the planet with life.

The reveal later that our DNA is the same would have had a much bigger impact.


at that point in time; you wouldn't make that connection - and we all walked out; party of 5; not understanding the start - reading it now; it makes sense that he seeded his DNA but that+the opening scene was highly ambigous.



Lots of people seem to be expecting an ALIEN film. this is so off tangent in its premise that I find the expectation to somewhat required to be tempered. I'm glad they went in the direction they did.

The problem I had was guy pierce's plastic mask face and the face that he is clearly NOT old and him leaning into that cane was kind of fake and distracting. He was the worst thing about prometheus
 
Wasn't impactful enough to show. You want a drama? Watch a drama. Its also directors/editors choice. You can edit and show people talking about it; but who wants to watch that?

Hopefully anyone and everyone hoping to have any reason whatsoever to care about the characters and their plight, for starters.
 
Since the movie felt it didn't have to explain the story to me, perhaps I can find some answers in here....


What was David doing this entire film? Why did he infect Charlie? Why the heck did Mohawk guy come back to life? What the hell was David's goal in Shaw getting pregnant?

This movie made no sense!

It made no sense indeed. Especially the ending:

#1- David asks her why she wants to go to get answers, puzzled, she replies that explains why she is human and he a robot. Uh, I don't think I understand either. She could have replied with "They made us, then changed their minds. So did I", implying she is going to bomb the shit out of them or something. At least end it like that, not with another non-sensical response.

#2- Is David supposed to keep living? He's a cyborg, not a perpetual energy machine.

#3- She has to sleep, only David can control the ship (how, with the flute? is he going to re-stich his head to his body?), why wouldn't David send it straight back to Earth while she's sleeping?

DUMB

at that point in time; you wouldn't make that connection - and we all walked out; party of 5; not understanding the start - reading it now; it makes sense that he seeded his DNA but that+the opening scene was highly ambigous.

WAT, it wasn't ambiguous at all. It was clear right there when the DNA was recomposing itself that this is what it was telling us. "We're going to meet our maker" and all too.

Edit: Also, I'm not sure how this is called in the script-writing world, but the scene where the girl shows up after getting an abortion and Wayland is there and starts explaining things, that's the same shit that you see in movies like Matrix 2 (KFC dude in the chair), Silent Hill (sit down I'll explain everything), etc. kind of scene. I guess it's usually called "meet your maker" or whatever, usually happens in a "what, is this real?" kind of vibe, which is exactly how it plays out here with her sitting down tired and dizzy. It's often found in shitty movies.
 
Wasn't impactful enough to show. You want a drama? Watch a drama. Its also directors/editors choice. You can edit and show people talking about it; but who wants to watch that?

Yeah, who wants to see characters deal with the consequences of highly painful physical and emotional trauma? Let's just reset them back to normal mode so we can get to the next explosion or evisceration.

You're treading close to the "It's a popcorn movie so it doesn't have to be any good!" fallacy.
 
It made no sense indeed. Especially the ending:

#1- David asks her why she wants to go to get answers, puzzled, she replies that explains why she is human and he a robot. Uh, I don't think I understand either. She could have replied with "They made us, then changed their minds. So did I", implying she is going to bomb the shit out of them or something. At least end it like that, not with another non-sensical response.

#2- Is David supposed to keep living? He's a cyborg, not a perpetual energy machine.

#3- She has to sleep, only David can control the ship (how, with the flute? is he going to re-stich his head to his body?), why wouldn't David send it straight back to Earth while she's sleeping?

DUMB

How do you know she has to sleep on the derelict ship? It might be able to achieve speeds much faster than the Prometheus. We don't even know if should would be able to use their cryo facilities.


What did you expect? Citizen Kane?!

:lol
 
Presentation through the roof... script, characterization and general plot through the floor. So many "what the fuck... really? That's stupid" moments.

I went full media blackout with this movie since the original teaser. I didn't want to be spoiled by the internet and I think I did a pretty decent job of it as I am a huge Alien franchise fan. Loved the casting choices, the visuals, the concepts and general direction. Some great ideas thrown in the mix but in the end the movie accomplishes nothing more than being a pretty but convoluted science fiction ride.

Disappointing but I would still rate this as the 3rd best Alien movie in the entire franchise.

I have like a thousand questions that I wished were answered but I will pose one just for the hell of it... what does this movie mean in terms of the Alien biological life cycle? Like what has to happen for the Xenomorph that we see in the Alien to happen? Also are we to believe that the Xenomorph shown in this movie is the Queen Alien or are we discounting the events of Aliens? Or do we have to wait for the 2nd Prometheus movie for the REAL lead in to the Alien movies?

As far as I can tell, the full Xenomorph life cycle seems to be: Engineer/Space jockey creates new biological "weapon" that mutates it's hosts -> If host transfers genetic material of the "weapon" to another host via sexual reproduction a new life form is created (the giant face hugger aka "queen face hugger" or the first form of the Xenomorph) -> Queen Face Hugger then has to infect another species to become the Queen Alien or Xenomorph (depending upon which canon Ridley is following here)

So where do those tapeworm type aliens come into place? Is that what happened because the goo infected those worms? That's the only logical explanation I could come up with.
 
How do you know she has to sleep on the derelict ship? It might be able to achieve speeds much faster than the Prometheus. We don't even know if should would be able to use their cryo facilities.




:lol

Neither does she know.

Does it have a droid-repairing bed too? She's going to hold the flute to David's mouth? Come on, it's dumb.
 
I don't understand what everyone is debating or speculating about. Everything was basically given to us on a silver platter. There's a simple answer to everything.

1. Engineers obviously created many different lifeforms. Just because it took a squid thing + Engineer to make the Xeno at the end doesn't mean shit. Maybe there was goo for facehugger eggs in some of those canisters too. There's probably goo for other even crazier shit that we'll see in a sequel.

2. This movie may or may not have anything to do with the Space Jockey from Alien. Maybe it was the chick's ship at the end, maybe it wasn't, who cares? It doesn't matter. The engineers were obviously an incredibly advanced species with masterful interplanetary travel tech. It could have been any of them.

I don't see what is so difficult to understand here?
 
I don't understand what everyone is debating or speculating about. Everything was basically given to us on a silver platter. There's a simple answer to everything.

1. Engineers obviously created many different lifeforms. Just because it took a squid thing + Engineer to make the Xeno at the end doesn't mean shit. Maybe there was goo for facehugger eggs in some of those canisters too. There's probably goo for other even crazier shit that we'll see in a sequel.

2. This movie may or may not have anything to do with the Space Jockey from Alien. Maybe it was the chick's ship at the end, maybe it wasn't, who cares? It doesn't matter. The engineers were obviously an incredibly advanced species with masterful interplanetary travel tech. It could have been any of them.

I don't see what is so difficult to understand here?
Uh, did you even bother to read any of the legitimate complaints against the film?
 
I don't understand what everyone is debating or speculating about. Everything was basically given to us on a silver platter. There's a simple answer to everything.

1. Engineers obviously created many different lifeforms. Just because it took a squid thing + Engineer to make the Xeno at the end doesn't mean shit. Maybe there was goo for facehugger eggs in some of those canisters too. There's probably goo for other even crazier shit that we'll see in a sequel.

2. This movie may or may not have anything to do with the Space Jockey from Alien. Maybe it was the chick's ship at the end, maybe it wasn't, who cares? It doesn't matter. The engineers were obviously an incredibly advanced species with masterful interplanetary travel tech. It could have been any of them.

I don't see what is so difficult to understand here?

Really?
 
The canisters do whatever the hell they want to do depending on what time of the day it is. Sometimes they spawn evil face-hugger snakes, sometimes they make your skin decompose and shit, sometimes they turn you into a space zombie, sometimes it makes you grow aliens in your belly.

Who knows? Who cares? Neither the threats nor any of the characters are definied in any real way, so I guess it doesn't matter. Don't worry, the next one will have answers.

Lost guy, you done it again!
 

What, was this movie supposed to give an exact, perfect retcon for everything? Is that really what people wanted from this story? I highly fucking doubt it. This movie showed us all the "pieces" that make up the Alien fiction. How the pieces fit exactly together isn't disclosed in this film, and it's a better film for it.
 
What, was this movie supposed to give an exact, perfect retcon for everything? Is that really what people wanted from this story? I highly fucking doubt it. This movie showed us all the "pieces" that make up the Alien fiction. How the pieces fit exactly together isn't disclosed in this film, and it's a better film for it.

I think you missed the point of his post.
 
No the movie was terribly written.

Alien was a slasher movie, yet awesome.
Aliens was a zombie movie, yet awesome.

This was... Lost.
 
What, was this movie supposed to give an exact, perfect retcon for everything? Is that really what people wanted from this story? I highly fucking doubt it. This movie showed us all the "pieces" that make up the Alien fiction. How the pieces fit exactly together isn't disclosed in this film, and it's a better film for it.

No, but you can't say things like "its obvious" or similar statements to imply that the movie's logic is as tight as a drum and then follow it up with a bunch of examples consisting entirely of could be's, might be's, possibilities, and other if statements.
 
Yeah, for a supposedly subservient android, David was pretty fucking shitty at following orders.

David, don't touch that button! *David touched button and opens door*
David, don't touch anything in here! *David straight up steals weird alien vial*
David, turn on your monitor so I can see what you're doing! *David turns it on briefly then shuts it off*

David is the ultimate troll.

Well you could say Weyland's orders overrode hers. David also infected the boring scientist out of curiosity and possibly out of Weyland's orders again, mainly they were testing if the goo granted everlasting life.
 
The Lost comparisons are most apt.

No way am I going to be tricked into a Prometheus 2... or am I?

So.... do the Captain and Vickers have sex?
 
What was David doing this entire film? Why did he infect Charlie? Why the heck did Mohawk guy come back to life? What the hell was David's goal in Shaw getting pregnant?

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I just got back from it. Visually, the film was spectacular and memorable. However, after the whole alien baby scene, the story turned into a nonsense gumbo. David was just doing things for no reason, no one seemed to care that Weyland was alive, it seemed like Weyland's cronies hated Shaw but kept her around for no reason etc. Also I don't get why Commander Shepard was such a jerk to David.
 
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