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[zoukka]

Didn't read all of your posts. but are you a fan of the film despite the plot holes mentioned by myself and others in the thread? That's fine if you are, but I'd be curious to hear your counter-points to at least the points I made.

Yes I loved the film and yes I've been addressing the "holes" since day 1 so I apologise if I won't bother replying to every new poster asking the same questions that have been discussed to death previously.

And I just addressed 13 points in my previous post D:

 

[Yuripaw]

After catching up on some of this thread, not all but some...I agree with many of the bad points being brought up about this movie. I feel like I'm disappointed with it, but at the same time I can't bring myself to say that I didn't enjoy it.

There are definite flaws in the execution. I'm frustrated more with how stupid most of the characters are in this movie. Motivations, and actions of so many of the characters is a fucking mess. Why did David put that thing into Charlie's drink in the first place? What motive exactly did he have to do that even if he was just following orders from Weyland? Why expose one of the top minds on your expedition to help you find the answers he may be looking for? I thought the scene where Shaw gets the facehugger/tenticle creature pulled out of her to be very tense, and hard to watch in a good way...but I am still completely baffled how the fuck she's still able to stand after everything she endures after that. Not to mention all the complaints people have about no one on the fucking ship seeming ever to mention or act freaked out by all the weird shit going on...what with the multiple deaths, zombified crewmate, a monster being pulled out of Shaw... I thought the movie started out well enough for the first hour, but everything character related in this plot really fucking falls apart.

However there are some things I like about it...I felt some of the Alien tie ins were interesting, and while it doesn't seem to directly answer the questions of the origins of the xenomorphs, you get a good idea of where they must have come from after all this time. Either they discovered, or created these weird creatures that impregnated within the engineers, created the xenomorphs. They evolved to become the xenomorphs that we knew, and most likely wiped out the engineers. I also liked the visual look of the film...while it didn't live up to movies it was trying to be, with a better script or maybe better editing, it could have.

I don't know, I just feel conflicted about this movie. I feel like I should be utterly disappointed and hate it...but it wasn't nearly as bad of a fuck up to me as films like Crystal Skull, or the Star Wars prequels. I think the faults didn't lie in what they were trying to achieve, just bad writing in spots. This movie could have been so much better if the screen writer understood that...if members of a crew die on an expedition like this, people are gonna freak the fuck out a little. There wasn't enough emotion to any of the characters, and as soon as the shit starting hitting the fan, we should have seen the fear in our characters just like the crew had in the original Alien.

 

[AHappyPanda]

Yes I loved the film and yes I've been addressing the "holes" since day 1 so I apologise if I won't bother replying to every new poster asking the same questions that have been discussed to death previously.

And I just addressed 13 points in my previous post D:

That's fine, I did mention in my post http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38701428&postcount=1652 that the gaping holes I bring up might've been already discussed somewhere along the 33 other pages I didn't bother going through. Not from you, but I'd like to see someone at least try to explain them to me. Minus my point about the events of Alien 1, which I already got educated on.

 

[Syph Medwes]

People that keep asking about the intro:

In a June 2012 interview, Scott confirmed that the Engineer sacrifices itself and its remains seed the planet with life in an act of directed panspermia.

 

[Dresden]

People that keep asking about the intro:

I wish I could just delete that entire scene + plus this interview out of my mind.

 

[Roders5]

Yes I loved the film and yes I've been addressing the "holes" since day 1 so I apologise if I won't bother replying to every new poster asking the same questions that have been discussed to death previously.

And I just addressed 13 points in my previous post D:

I'm starting to feel a little sorry for you. It's great that you enjoyed the movie, people are allowed to enjoy whatever they want. However this endless quest of yours to fill in every stupid plot hole and dumb character action is just getting sad now. You're basically saying "all the stupid stuff in the movie is supposed to be that way because of some great plan that only I get!". This movie, while visually superb, is so flawed and so stupid at times that I, like so many other people, have a right to be massively disappointed.

 

[zoukka]

I'm starting to feel a little sorry for you. It's great that you enjoyed the movie, people are allowed to enjoy whatever they want. However this endless quest of yours to fill in every stupid plot hole and dumb character action is just getting sad now. You're basically saying "all the stupid stuff in the movie is supposed to be that way because of some great plan that only I get!". This movie, while visually superb, is so flawed and so stupid at times that I, like so many other people, have a right to be massively disappointed.

My responses are my interpretation based on the one viewing I got a week ago. They cannot be waterproof. It's weird that some people get riled up when you try to give explanation on these things.

And sorry if I stomped on your "right to be disappointed" whatever that's supposed to mean heh.

 

[LowParry]

Were these ever dissected by what they really mean?

 

[thebaroness]

He's made to look exactly like humans down to "emotional" reactions to what happens around him. Doesn't mean he actually feels anything.

I like to think he was experiencing some real emotion. He did seem genuinely upset over the answer, "we made you because we could."

IT'S WHAT I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.

 

[Eccocid]

I wish I could just delete that entire scene + plus this interview out of my mind.

that opening scene was my fav part of the movie! It was very cool and felt very strong imo! I wish rest of the movie kept that mood :/

 

[zoukka]

I like to think he was experiencing some real emotion. He did seem genuinely upset over the answer, "we made you because we could."

IT'S WHAT I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.

Mmm I definately sympathized with David and he felt like a person, but if I really try to get behind his motives I arrive at the conclusion that he was the slave of Weyland.

However he himself told us that he wishes his master dies so he can be "free", so who knows what David now is.

 

[LeMaximilian]

The crew I saw the movie with tonight had an interesting idea about the star map discoveries and how they tie into the movie.

Dunno if this was mentioned yet, but the possibility is that humans were grown as a test species for the eventual xenomorph, and act as the 'hosts' for the weapon they eventually wish to create (forshadowed by the obvious wall painting in the pyramid). The multiple civilizations were eventually wiped out and were also separated by long periods of time and distance (I can't remember all the civilizations mentioned, but I think this is right). All have the same imagery, of large human like beings coming from an outer-stellar system. Perhaps all these civilizations were wiped out as a result of the engineers returning to earth on several occasions to test their weapon, and gathering the xenomorph results after?

Also, in regards to David acting much more human like then he should...isn't it said in later Alien films that the androids later function with 'behavioral inhibitors?' It's obvious that he feels when people slander him about being 'just a robot' constantly, and has an ongoing sense of wonder, exploration, knowledge and will seemingly act upon his creators to seek these goals. Since David is one of the first androids, it might make sense that this would eventually be fixed in time (because of stuff happening during the events of Prometheus).

 

[Mistouze]

I like to think he was experiencing some real emotion. He did seem genuinely upset over the answer, "we made you because we could."

IT'S WHAT I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.

There's definitely something going with David beyond his programing. That's why he seems pissed at humans and their behavior towards him. At least that's what I felt.

 

[zoukka]

There's definitely something going with David beyond his programing. That's why he seems pissed at humans and their behavior towards him. At least that's what I felt.

Maybe not pissed and more like disappointed? I mean he's there hanging out with his "gods" and they are seemingly inferiour in every way.

The crew I saw the movie with tonight had an interesting idea about the star map discoveries and how they tie into the movie.

Dunno if this was mentioned yet, but the possibility is that humans were grown as a test species for the eventual xenomorph, and act as the 'hosts' for the weapon they eventually wish to create (forshadowed by the obvious wall painting in the pyramid). The multiple civilizations were eventually wiped out and were also separated by long periods of time and distance (I can't remember all the civilizations mentioned, but I think this is right). All have the same imagery, of large human like beings coming from an outer-stellar system. Perhaps all these civilizations were wiped out as a result of the engineers returning to earth on several occasions to test their weapon, and gathering the xenomorph results after?

Interesting theory there. It would make sense for them to take human samples with them from time to time, but mass scale goo nuking I can't see happening.

 

[thebaroness]

Mmm I definately sympathized with David and he felt like a person, but if I really try to get behind his motives I arrive at the conclusion that he was the slave of Weyland.

However he himself told us that he wishes his master dies so he can be "free", so who knows what David now is.

What I gathered, he could be both a programmed device carrying out Weyland's wishes, and still harbor some of his own desires for freedom. He can't do anything outside of his programming while Weyland is alive, but perhaps he can after he has finally expired? He could have a desire for knowledge and learning outside of his mission to help his "father". The mere fact that he claims to like Lawrence of Arabia makes me think he does have feelings of his own.

However, I have a huge soft spot for androids (Bishop was my favorite character in the series for a long while). So I can accept that it's my own personal feelings affecting how I take his actions.

 

[zoukka]

What I gathered, he could be both a programmed device carrying out Weyland's wishes, and still harbor some of his own desires for freedom. He could have a desire for knowledge and learning outside of his mission to help his "father". The mere fact that he claims to like Lawrence of Arabia makes me think he does have feelings of his own.

However, I have a huge soft spot for androids (Bishop was my favorite character in the series for a long while). So I can accept that it's my own personal feelings affecting how I take his actions.

Yeah the androids have always fascinated me as well in these movies and David is not an exception. He actually dyed his hair to look like the actor in the beginning. I first thought that was hairgel.

 

[Mistouze]

Emo androids? FUCK.YEAH.

 

[thebaroness]

Yeah the androids have always fascinated me as well in these movies and David is not an exception. He actually dyed his hair to look like the actor in the beginning. I first thought that was hairgel.

I KNOWWWWWWWWWW


SO CUUUUUUUUUUUTEEE


I LOVED THAT!

 

[TUROK]

The bad thing about posting in other forums is that you tend to repeat yourself a lot, and it gets really annoying.

I don't think I want to discuss this movie anymore.

 

[Solo]

I dunno. Movie started showing its cracks when the geologist and his buddy randomly get scared and decide to walk back to the ship alone.

The geologist was a total dick, too. Travels for 2 years and can't even be civil to the botanist?

 

[Solo]

After sleeping on it, yeah, the movie's single biggest failure, amongst many failures, is that not one single character acts in any way even remotely close to how a human being would react in any of these situations.

If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.
If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.
If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.
If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.
If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.

Fuck David, its the rest of the crew that are robots.

Etc. Dumbest blockbuster in recent memory, and that is saying a lot. It wouldn't have shocked me if the SJ's final goal was to destroy the Mass Relays. It is that dumb.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

After sleeping on it, yeah, the movie's single biggest failure, amongst many failures, is that not one single character acts in any way even remotely close to how a human being would react in any of these situations.

If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.
If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.
If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.
If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.
If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.

Fuck David, its the rest of the crew that are robots.

Etc. Dumbest blockbuster in recent memory, and that is saying a lot.

So much this. I could've dealt with overarching questions remaining if the crew was acting logically to any of these moments and we got some great character scenes out of them. I have to wonder if Scott and Lindelof were playing modern "AAA" shooters and edited the movie for that crowd.

And the whole crew being robots? Word. I called that yesterday too.

 

[Tom_Cody]

I loved it. I was blown away. I consider it to be a modern classic.


I haven't read through the thread at all. It's going to fun reading through everyone's posts now.

 

[Falch]

I loved it. I was blown away. I consider it to be a modern classic.


I haven't read through the thread at all. It's going to fun reading through everyone's posts now.

Start with the one 2 posts up from yours and there won't be a need to read the rest of the thread.

 

[remz]

I think with the ending of Prometheus, it should of just not happened at all. We already got a sort of glimpse of the Xeno in the...eh, either "big head" room or the bridge. I think more of the Xeno's reveal should of been with a next/later movie. Come to think of it, there was something below that mural. A green sort of stone. Was that just Engineer interface technology or something else?

There is a line in the movie right after the stone is shown where a character (I don't remember who) says that it's "just another door"


at least from memory.... I think a lot of people's problems with this movie, evolution stuff aside is just due to them not paying attention.


and the complaints about a "shallow, stupid" crew make me laugh. Did no one see the circus of idiocy that was the original Alien's crew? the movie is good regardless.

 

[symphonask]

Haven't read all of this thread yet, but has this writeup been posted. It's quite long but here's a small bit. This movie is insane,

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

From the Engineers' perspective, so long as humans retained that notion of self-sacrifice as central, we weren't entirely beyond redemption. But we went and screwed it all up, and the film hints at when, if not why: the Engineers at the base died two thousand years ago. That suggests that the event that turned them against us and led to the huge piles of dead Engineers lying about was one and the same event. We did something very, very bad, and somehow the consequences of that dreadful act accompanied the Engineers back to LV-223 and massacred them.

If you have uneasy suspicions about what 'a bad thing approximately 2,000 years ago' might be, then let me reassure you that you are right. An astonishing excerpt from the Movies.com interview with Ridley Scott:

Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.

Yeah. The reason the Engineers don't like us any more is that they made us a Space Jesus, and we broke him. Reader, that's not me pulling wild ideas out of my arse. That's RIDLEY SCOTT.

So, imagine poor crucified Jesus, a fresh spear wound in his side. Oh, hey, there's the 'lifegiver with his abdomen torn open' motif again. That's three times now: Prometheus, Engineer mural, Jesus Christ. And I don't think I have to mention the 'sacrifice in the interest of giving life' bit again, do I? Everyone on the same page? Good.

 

[Spotless Mind]

There is a line in the movie right after the stone is shown where a character (I don't remember who) says that it's "just another door"

It was Holloway and he said: "This is just another tomb." Hence his drunken reaction, due to disappointment that the "makers" were dead. I thought that was quite the leap to make, considering how little time they spent in there, but... whatever.

 

[Chinner]

all these interview segments really put me off on the direction they want to take this.

 

[BertramCooper]

I don't think a movie has ever made me this frustrated and sad.

I mean, it was Ridley Scott, the guy who directed two of the very best sci-fi films ever made, coming back to the genre.

And it fucking sucked. Goddamn, it stings.

 

[DKehoe]

Haven't read all of this thread yet, but has this writeup been posted. It's quite long but here's a small bit. This movie is insane,

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

Came in to post the link to this. Is an interesting read.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Haven't read all of this thread yet, but has this writeup been posted. It's quite long but here's a small bit. This movie is insane,

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

So humans killed Commander Shepard Space Jesus who was really an Engineer messenger sent to curb human aggression, infected the Engineer's black life spreading goo with our selfish ways, got the Engineers on LV-223 killed, and are basically the catalysts for xenomorphs? Is that what I'm reading here?

EDIT: Only just reading back to see this was being discussed last night. Doesn't fix the major issue I had with the movie but it would make a sequel more interesting, I guess.

 

[vareon]

After sleeping on it, yeah, the movie's single biggest failure, amongst many failures, is that not one single character acts in any way even remotely close to how a human being would react in any of these situations.

If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.
If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.
If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.
If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.
If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.

Fuck David, its the rest of the crew that are robots.

Etc. Dumbest blockbuster in recent memory, and that is saying a lot. It wouldn't have shocked me if the SJ's final goal was to destroy the Mass Relays. It is that dumb.

This sums up all the "huh?" I get from watching. One thing I don't understand is how Shaw just waltzed in to Vicker's room and used a super-expensive equipment she wouldn't even let anyone touch. A girl like her could have locked the room or something.

 

[Dabanton]

After sleeping on it, yeah, the movie's single biggest failure, amongst many failures, is that not one single character acts in any way even remotely close to how a human being would react in any of these situations.

If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.
If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.
If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.
If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.
If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.

Fuck David, its the rest of the crew that are robots.

Etc. Dumbest blockbuster in recent memory, and that is saying a lot. It wouldn't have shocked me if the SJ's final goal was to destroy the Mass Relays. It is that dumb.

In a nutshell.

It's an appalling movie no matter how much the superfans try to spin all sort of silly theories.

It's only saving grace is it looks good in 3D. An absolute massive misfire of a movie. And when you think of the rich history this world has built up it's unforgivable to make a movie so pedestrian.

 

[symphonask]

So humans killed Commander Shepard Space Jesus who was really an Engineer messenger sent to curb human aggression, infected the Engineer's black life spreading goo with our selfish ways, got the Engineers on LV-223 killed, and are basically the catalysts for xenomorphs? Is that what I'm reading here?

I didn't like his explanation for the black goo. That it reacts to emotions and mental states.

However, I really like the explanation for Weyland's look. He wasn't just supposed to look old. He was supposed to look unnatural, aged way beyond what is natural, clinging to false hope and ambition for more life.

Weyland, preserved by his wealth and the technology it can buy, has lived far, far longer than his rightful time. A ghoulish, wizened creature who looks neither old nor young, he reminds me of Slough Feg, the decaying tyrant from the Slaine series in British comic 2000AD. In Slaine, an ancient (and by now familiar to you, dear reader, or so I would hope) Celtic law decrees that the King has to be ritually and willingly sacrificed at the end of his appointed time, for the good of the land and the people. Slough Feg refused to die, and became a rotting horror, the embodiment of evil.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Weyland's walking apparatus was somewhat comical.

 

[StrikerObi]

Wait, no - how did a geologist, who mapped out the cave and had equipment in his suit that told him his exact co-ordinates, get lost in a circular cave?

This was the only part of the film that bothered me. The rest was fine. I don't need a precise xenomorph backstory. I can fill in those gaps with my imagination.

Maybe the answer to this question is that Fifield got lost because he was too fucking high.

 

[Subterranean]

Haven't read all of this thread yet, but has this writeup been posted. It's quite long but here's a small bit. This movie is insane,

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

I have totally changed my negative opinion about the movie after reading that. It is actually pretty interesting.

 

[JB1981]

Why create us in the first place if you're simply going to destroy us when we develop interstellar travel?

I think there was something about us specifically that led to them wanting to "reset" Earth. Maybe it's our warlike nature or maybe it's something we did specifically, like crucifying space jockey Jesus 2000 years ago.

I think it's simpler than that. The reason ties in thematically with the fate of Prometheus in Greek myth. We got too advanced, too curious, too powerful. We angered the Gods. And we had to be punished for it. The storytelling in this movie is SO SHITTY that even something this simple is a mess. The TED talk was better than this movie

 

[shintoki]

After sleeping on it, yeah, the movie's single biggest failure, amongst many failures, is that not one single character acts in any way even remotely close to how a human being would react in any of these situations.

If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.
If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.
If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.
If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.
If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.

Fuck David, its the rest of the crew that are robots.

Etc. Dumbest blockbuster in recent memory, and that is saying a lot. It wouldn't have shocked me if the SJ's final goal was to destroy the Mass Relays. It is that dumb.

Right idea, horrible execution.

And I pin it both on the script and Scott. There is no way in hell he should have let so many of these get by without doing something.

 

[Erigu]

I think it's simpler than that. The reason ties in thematically with the fate of Prometheus in Greek myth. We got too advanced, too curious, too powerful. We angered the Gods. And we had to be punished for it. The storytelling in this movie is SO SHITTY that even something this simple is a mess.

Not that it's exactly a novel or fascinating concept anyway...

 

[JB1981]

Why was Shaw's BF acting so weird and drunk after their first trip ? This was before his drink was spiked by David. Before this scene the guy was very cool headed for the most part and then in basically the very next scene he is acting irrational and weird. What the fuck was that?

And how did Idris Elba know so much about the SJs "installation"? How did he know it was a military installation with weapons of mass destruction? Seriously how the fuck would he know that? Because Shaw's BF returned to the ship all mutated? Characters do shit in this movie that makes no sense

 

[Replicant]

Why do the Engineers want to destroy us? Several possibilities:

1. We were meant to be a part of their Bioweapon plan. Hatch us and when we're capable of higher intelligence, lead us to the military base so the entire species can be infected and turned into more effective weapons.

OR

2. They created us and as they observed our progress, they realize that we are species of war. Too dangerous to be allowed existing once we figure out a way to reach the stars. So the plan was to exterminate us when such instance happens.

OR

3. Like the myth of Prometheus, we were never meant to exist. That engineer at the start was probably some kind of convict who got sentenced to death but he inadvertently created life and gave birth to us via evolution. He essentially was the "Prometheus" of the story. The one who gave fire to humans without the Gods' (aka other Engineers) permission. So their plan was to observe us and eliminate us should we ever find a way to reach the stars.

 

[Sir Hamish]

Why was Shaw's BF acting so weird and drunk after their first trip ? This was before his drink was spiked by David. Before this scene the guy was very cool headed for the most part and then in basically the very next scene he is acting irrational and weird. What the fuck was that?

I think he had his hopes up that he would meet the Engineers and was a bit depressed to find them all dead. He was just disappointed.

 

[Man]

David is such an awesome character. Him idolizing T.E Lawrence / Peter O'Tool just makes him cooler as that's one of the other top three male icons imo. Also add Don Draper.

 

[BertramCooper]

So when did everyone else finally give up on the film?

I found myself desperately trying to like it, but once Weyland showed up, I was done. Truth be told, though, the film was beyond saving long before that point.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Like I said. Great ideas explored in the film. Everything I've ever wanted out of a big budget science fiction film. But terrible execution. They needed to do another few drafts of the script at least. But what they really needed was a different writer. They needed Alex Garland and his penchant for observing humanity as a species, not to mention his skill with believable sci-fi.

 

[Mr. Sam]

Now you're making me want to buy Enslaved.

 

[Replicant]

The 2nd half of this film ruins everything that 1st half pain-stakingly built. IMO, the 3rd act of "Sunshine" that people hate so much is actually better told and realised. The characters' death in "Sunshine" were also written better and far more meaningful than the throwaway death of Prometheus crews (some of them died unnecessarily).

 

[Replicant]

I'm sure these points have been talked about in the thread but, PLOT HOLES AHOY!

- I'm a biologist who has ZERO interest in this dead engineer body here
- I'm the geologist who HATED the biologist, but hey, let's roll out together
- Oh fuck, we got lost somehow...even though we literally created an entire map of the place we're exploring minutes ago and everyone else got out OK...in the middle of a storm
- There's a blip on the scanner for a life form 1 click to the East?!?! FUCK DAT SHIT, we're going West, I ain't fuckin' with NO alien lifeforms...OH! A cute little snake! C'mere snake...OH GOD. Did I mention that earlier, I had NO interest even in the DEAD alien?
- Oh, I'm really sick and instead of even REMOTELY attempting to save myself, I volunteer to have Charlize Theron BURN me alive
- Oh that guy? He just had a GIANT SNAKE in his mouth, but we don't need to mention it again
- I ran away from two people and gave myself surgery on this MIND-BOGGLING male-only surgery capsule (btw, that thing is in Theron's character's emergency escape because you know...it makes sense for her to have a male-only surgery capsule)
- We spent over $1 trillion on this mission, and even though there were only 12 of these surgery capsules made...we could only afford this male-only one..even though the Weyland representative is a female and the main person who helped get the mission going is also female
- AWESOME, I cut the alien out, thank goodness NO one chased me even though David was SUPER adamant about me keeping the alien inside me and it's even BETTER that no one ask why the fuck I have 8 staples in my stomach
- Thank God I know the code to open this door here, OH Mr. Weyland is here!
- Oh yah, the geologist came back to life as a zombie and murdered 3 of the crew, but we don't need to talk about that either
- Stringer Bell instantly figured out what the aliens were doing (military base obviously) by just killing the zombie geologist
- You can escape from getting crushed by a huge alien ship by rolling to the left a couple of times, but don't run in a straight line like an idiot otherwise you WILL get crushed by a huge alien ship
- Hello, Elizabeth? This is David. I'm completely decapitated but no worries, I can still contact you via radio somehow? Also, don't worry, neither my body nor my head moved AT ALL during that HUGE crash I just went through
- Oh btw, that engineer is PISSED and is coming to kill you, but apparently door locks don't exist in this world and he's gonna roll up on you as soon as I finish this sentence

EDIT: Forgot to add this,

- Us? We're just the Captain's lackeys. Oh what? He literally said he could crash Prometheus into the alien ship himself and to save ourselves? NAH, we BOTH decided to become heroes and sacrifice our lives as if we were deciding what to eat for dinner, steak or ramen? EASY CHOICE. We're going down with the ship, HANDS UP!

Other thoughts:
Hey Ridley, remember that the space jockey (engineer) was fossilized and in the piloting seat in Alien 1 with its chest burst open, shouldn't we somehow get that into the movie as to maintain some sort of consistency between the films? Nah...

This movie pretty much further built my dislike for the Alien franchise due to it's utter lack of discipline to keep any sort of canon. They literally just make shit up from film-to-film. Yeah, I don't like the Alien movies. I said it. I was REALLY hopeful for Prometheus because even though I don't really like the franchise, the universe it attempts to create is still pretty interesting. It's too bad they don't care about their own universe.

God. Damn. It.

When the plot points are listed like this, it does feel like the film is one giant epic fail similar to Mass Effect 3 ending. :/

 

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If you just aborted an alien baby, you wouldn't just get over it.

She didn't. Miss the scene where she breaks down and cries and tries to get everyone to realize they have to leave the planet? Then she has some moments where she seems to be debating what to do before deciding to indeed follow the others to meed the Engineer.

If your android was integral in the death of your significant other, you wouldn't never mention it.

Meantioned several times, Shaw didn't know David was responsible.

If a man dead 2 years just appeared, you wouldn't be nonchalant about it.

Everyone in the crew has also been asleep 2 years and the only reason they have to think Weyland is dead because he says himself he'll be in the video briefing. Shaw could have acted completely shocked I guess, but after aborting an alien baby from herself I don't think there's anything that is gonna really be much of a shock to her. Vickers and David already knew about Weyland and most of the rest of the crew are gone. Add 5 seconds of Janek going "wtf that dude is alive??" and that problem is fixed.

If your dead geologist suddenly appeared outside your door, you wouldn't open the door to it.

If a cat goes missing when there is a dangerous alien on your ship, you don't wander off alone looking for said cat. Movie stupidity. Also, they only knew he was missing, right? And at that point they didn't really have reason to think he would have turned into a crazed zombie. People in movies don't know they're in movies, etc.

If you were about to suicide yourself to take down the SJ ship, you wouldn't be cracking wise with your co-pilot.
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Those 2 co-pilots probably should have been removed from the movie. Completely unnecessary and yeah their dialogue at the end is terrible. I'm not sure it would be better if they said more cliché stuff like "It's been an honor" or "Let's give 'em hell!" though.