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Truant said:
My take on the wallpainting is that the Xeno is some sort of final form for the goo.
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Yep. They probably left out Giger's original Alien lifecycle sculpture since the organisms uses would be so various in this film.

I think the idea of it coming loose and infecting the small bugs/animals in the structures was cool
 
BuddyJoeHooker said:
This took me by surprise too but that was actually Fifield or the Geologist that got acid on his face.
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It was Fifield, who was turned into a zombie or something.

I don't think the Geologist actually got acid on his face - the acid melted/combined the glass in his visor, which fell on his face and killed him.

Truant said:
My take on the wallpainting is that the Xeno is some sort of final form for the goo. Maybe the Engineers worshipped the Xenomorphs in some form.
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I refuse to believe this unless Ridley comes out and states it unambiguously because it's such a silly notion. If they actually go the route of "lol its so pure and perfect so we worship it" I'm going to fucking explode.
 
Speedymanic said:
And this is pretty cool, shame they changed the design....

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Interesting that the concept shows them white like the engineers (taking on the hosts characteristics) as opposed to what we got. Although its a white alien and im getting flashbacks to Resurrection's white chocolate.
 
Truant said:
My take on the wallpainting is that the Xeno is some sort of final form for the goo. Maybe the Engineers worshipped the Xenomorphs in some form.
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Hmm, maybe the Engineers have nothing whatsoever to do with the goo, they just found it and know what it can become/some of its properties?

Also Im curious about the dichotomy between the first Engineer we see's round disc ship and the later Engineer's crescent like vehicles
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
I refuse to believe this unless Ridley comes out and states it unambiguously because it's such a silly notion. If they actually go the route of "lol its so pure and perfect so we worship it" I'm going to fucking explode.
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I don't think it was a weapon either.


EliteArtist said:
Interesting that the concept shows them white like the engineers (taking on the hosts characteristics) as opposed to what we got. Although its a white alien and im getting flashbacks to Resurrection's white chocolate.
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Maybe the original plan was to find a way to mass produce engineers on other planets
 
Is whatever the Engineers were doing with the "black goop" in the metal vases any different to what humans were doing with androids? It seems like the Engineers worship Xenos in some way, given the crucifixion mural. Which would suggest that they didn't create them, why would they worship something that they give life to? Also it seems to me that the vases are laid out like an Alien queen would lay out her eggs. This might explain why the life forms in Prometheus resemble the xenos and facehuggers we know, but in a more artificial way.

It seems like the Engineer's are creators, physically perfect beings that have created life in the past but they seem to be sufffering from playing God and poking at things that that they can't control - much like the Prometheus crew and the human race. Is Weyland not as much of a God as the Engineer at the start of the film? Albeit a less idealistic and a more flawed creator. The concept of the Prometheus myth, stealing fire from the Gods and giving it to man, seems to apply to the engineers as much as it does to the human race. Both races are being punished (the most important part of the myth) for playing God in a seemingly incomprehensible universe that will always be bigger than them.
 
EliCash said:
Is whatever the Engineers were doing with the "black goop" in the metal vases any different to what humans were doing with androids? It seems like the Engineers worship Xenos in some way, given the crucifixion mural. Which would suggest that they didn't create them, why would they worship something that they give life to?
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Nah,

the mural was most likely to show what the final form of the upright alien cycle looks like, before it starts to adapt with queens and shit.

I doubt there was any worshipping.
 
EliteArtist said:
Interesting that the concept shows them white like the engineers (taking on the hosts characteristics) as opposed to what we got. Although its a white alien and im getting flashbacks to Resurrection's white chocolate.
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Oh God, I totally forgot about that abomination.

Ugh, just terrible.

ThoseDeafMutes said:
I refuse to believe this unless Ridley comes out and states it unambiguously because it's such a silly notion. If they actually go the route of "lol its so pure and perfect so we worship it" I'm going to fucking explode.
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Agreed.

Them giving it an alter because it's the greatest creation, yeah...but worshiping it. Naw.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
It was Fifield, who was turned into a zombie or something.

I don't think the Geologist actually got acid on his face - the acid melted/combined the glass in his visor, which fell on his face and killed him.



I refuse to believe this unless Ridley comes out and states it unambiguously because it's such a silly notion. If they actually go the route of "lol its so pure and perfect so we worship it" I'm going to fucking explode.
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Fifield is the geologist. The other guy was killed and shown, Fifield wasn't. He just randomly appeared and wrecked everything. Plus the other guy (looked it up, his names Milburn) was killed by the snake whereas Fifield came into contact with the black goo.
 
Sean2 said:
Nah,

the mural was most likely to show what the final form of the upright alien cycle looks like, before it starts to adapt with queens and shit.

I doubt there was any worshipping.
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The idea that they worship them is such a silly one that I hope it isn't the case, it just seems to be what that was hinting at.

That makes sense too I guess, and is less of a silly notion.
 
Spiffy_1st said:
I really want to see the directors cut, I'll buy the super complete edition with posters, tshirts, facehugger masks, everything please.
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Speaking of posters, fuck Regal.
They would not give me a poster.



I went to Amc, and they gave me three. I would like to hug the man that designed these. Minimalism is so great
 
Spiffy_1st said:
What does this say?

I really want to see the directors cut, I'll buy the super complete edition with posters, tshirts, facehugger masks, everything please.
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"I was thrilled about Prometheus. Returning to the world of science fiction was so much fun, I'm already thinking about the possibilities for Prometheus 2..."
 
EliteArtist said:
Fifield is the geologist. The other guy was killed and shown, Fifield wasn't. He just randomly appeared and wrecked everything. Plus the other guy (looked it up, his names Milburn) was killed by the snake whereas Fifield came into contact with the black goo.
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Let's forget names for a minute because I suck with them. The guy who wrecked shit was burned alive prior, and the reason they burned him alive was because he was infected with the black goop. The guy who was obnoxious and looked wierd and shouted I LOVE ROCKS was a geologist, and got killed when acid from the snake he tried to cut off melted his glass helmet which then dropped straight onto his face.

I don't know what profession the infected zombie guy who dated Noomy was.
 
That smaller squidhugger is nightmare fuel.

ThoseDeafMutes said:
I don't know what profession the infected zombie guy who dated Noomy was.
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Biologist? But he was lazily there for the Alien baby scene and as the sceptic scientist because Damon love "science vs faith" theme.

"It's what I choose to believe" could have been straight out of Lost.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
Let's forget names for a minute because I suck with them. The guy who wrecked shit was burned alive prior, and the reason they burned him alive was because he was infected with the black goop. The guy who was obnoxious and looked wierd and shouted I LOVE ROCKS was a geologist, and got killed when acid from the snake he tried to cut off melted his glass helmet which then dropped straight onto his face.

I don't know what profession the infected zombie guy who dated Noomy was.
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You're confused. The geologist is what turned into the zombie that wrecked stuff and got crushed by a tank. The other guy he was with was killed by worm. Charlie was infected, started to turn black, and was then burnt to a crisp. He didn't wreck anything.
 
Creamium said:
"I was thrilled about Prometheus. Returning to the world of science fiction was so much fun, I'm already thinking about the possibilities for Prometheus 2..."
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I assumed it would be something like that, I wanted to be sure it wasn't "I'm happy there won't be a Prometheus 2" or something.
 
Chopper said:
You're confused. The geologist is what turned into the zombie that wrecked stuff and got crushed by a tank. The other guy he was with was killed by worm. Charlie was infected, started to turn black, and was then burnt to a crisp. He didn't wreck anything.
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I am confused because I don't remember them dragging the mohawk guy back.


Also, was he positioned in a weird way? or was I imagining things?
 
Chopper said:
You're confused. The geologist is what turned into the zombie that wrecked stuff and got crushed by a tank. The other guy he was with was killed by worm. Charlie was infected, started to turn black, and was then burnt to a crisp. He didn't wreck anything.
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What? I thought the guy that got flamethrower-ed was the zombie, which is why he looked all burned?
 
Sean2 said:
I am confused because I don't remember them dragging the mohawk guy back.


Also, was he positioned in a weird way? or was I imagining things?
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His back was like snapped, and his legs were set like a crab around the dude's head.

It's really awkward because I guess the zombie managed to stumble all the fucking way back to the ship (whereupon they promptly open the door for it).


ThoseDeafMutes said:
What? I thought the guy that got flamethrower-ed was the zombie, which is why he looked all burned?
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He got hit with acid I think.
 
Dresden said:
His back was like snapped, and his legs were set like a crab around the dude's head.

It's really awkward because I guess the zombie managed to stumble all the fucking way back to the ship (whereupon they promptly open the door for it).



He got hit with acid, remember?
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That reminds me of the deleted crab scene in Alien. There is so much random/weird stuff in this film that works so well.


BuddyJoeHooker said:
He appeared outside the bay doors. Also was he doing a super yoga position with his legs over his shoulders?
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I knew I saw this! I keep remembering weird shit from this movie that I thought my mind made up
 
EliteArtist said:
But he's so cute and innocent. That is until he tries to mimic the scene from Dead Man's Chest with the Engineer as everyone's favorite pirate.
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I sincerely hope someone on RPF builds a clay or epoxy mold to like inject gelatin or gel based mold material in.

That would be the most bad ass teddy bear alternative.
 
Love plot holes. They monitor his vitals, the suits have TWO cameras on them (one on teh helmet and one on the shoulder) and somehow he still managed to get to the ship without anyone knowing. Convenience in movies to move the plot along is a horrible, horrible, thing.
 
Goo apparently gives them super strength as well, considering how the zombie dude shattered their helmets with a single blow, which is something 200mph winds couldn't do when Dr. Shaw in her infinite wisdom decided to go chase after the severed head and got tossed against the bulk of the ship.
 
So the goo life cycles are:

Goo from vase taken by David -> drunk by idiot scientist bf -> eyes turning black and stuff crawling around

Idiot scientist bf penis goo -> scientist girl -> chest bursting squid thing -> face hugged Engineer -> classic alien

Floor goo -> worms on ground -> face hugging worm -> infected scientist guy -> back broken super mutant that attacked ship
 
Holloway - pic - Shaw's BF - ingested a drop of the goo hy way of tainted drink. Later begins to slowly disintegrate as the engineer did at the beginning, but before the process completed, was burned alive by Vickers.

Fifield - pic - suffered acid to the face, fell into goo, had his helmet melt back onto his face. Later shows up outside the Prometheus - has been mutated by the goo and begins a murderous rampage, is killed by a tank running him over and burned alive/shot multiple times.


Mliburn - pic - is attacked and killed by a mutated worm. Doesn't resurrect or mutate.
 
Dresden said:
Goo apparently gives them super strength as well, considering how the zombie dude shattered their helmets with a single blow, which is something 200mph winds couldn't do.
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Was anyone else satisfied with most of the death scenes? not Therons, that was bull shit.

Those peons getting their faces smashed was awesome, david having his head ripped off and used as a makeshift bat was amazing


Edit: btw, I think the "Small beginnings" phrase is the ultimate confirmation that the goop is the beginning of the Alien life cycle, in terms of how it affects anything in a similar way.
 
Speedymanic said:
Fifield - suffered acid to the face, fell into goo, had his helmet melt back onto his face. Later shows up outside the Prometheus - has been mutated by the goo and begins a murderous rampage, is killed by a tank running him over and burned alive/shot multiple times.
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Ahh gotcha, and head from ship covered in goo -> engineer head exploding
 
The whole Incredible Hulk sequence was just so weird and out of place and it wasn't at all clear who he was or how he got there. I rank it second on my Individual Thngs That Made Me Go WTF list after the bad old man makeup.
 
Mr. Sam said:
Wait, no - how did a geologist, who mapped out the cave and had equipment in his suit that told him his exact co-ordinates, get lost in a circular cave?
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I almost smacked myself on the forehead when that happened. I was generally very disappointed with this movie :(
 
EliCash said:
Travelling to the engineer homeworld for answers would be a wrong move in my opinion
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One ship is probably enough to wipe out an entire world :P Call it LV-426 as well and we've come full circle on shitting up the franchise.

Frankly the entire plot premise was already so bad to begin with that they can't go any more wrong in the sequel anyway.
 
Saw the movie today. It was pretty good. Flawed in the writing department but I felt the visual style and the action and horror carried it. Don't know if anyone else thought this though, when the cthulhu-hugger grabbed the Engineer all I could think of was Shaw saying "Thanks son" and then it replying "No problem, Ma". You see, because all little cthulhu wanted was to be accepted and held by it's mother. You see Prometheus is really a film about a bond between mother and son.
 
LV223 really wasn't a dangerous place at all. Anyone with half a brain would have survived it with no problems. The biggest hazards were a sand storm, an alien critter which only attacks you if you keep provoking it at close range, and a big sleeping alien dude who will only wake up if you open the pod manually.

Pretty much every single actual danger in the movie was created by their incompetence/stupidity or engineered by David. The actual environment doesn't seem like much of a hazard at all. Really silly!
 
duckroll said:
Pretty much every single actual danger in the movie was created by their incompetence/stupidity or engineered by David. The actual environment doesn't seem like much of a hazard at all. Really silly!
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Lesson learned: never take a goddamned robot (android) on a space expedition.
 
David can come, but only if Teddy comes with him for guidance. The sooner you realize that Peter Weyland is the alias for Professor Hobby the better.
 
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