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For some reason. I can only assume they would have exploded or something eventually. As I understand it, if those two eels mated they would have created some sort of weird eel face hugger, so Xenomorph could have been produced that way?

Which is more likely? Eel sex or Engineer sex?

Engineer on eel action

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Same here.
Not a big fan of them being evil either (that design didn't exactly make the Space Jockey look like a threat to me), but I guess that couldn't really be helped once they decided to get rid of the pyramid and move the egg chamber to the derelict instead...



Because gratuitous explosions are cool?
(... man, yet another thing I'd want to look for in Spaihts' draft...)

Are the Jockeys evil though? Why do people assume that life more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat animals that we are more intelligent than?
 
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I know this is a joke, but I can see zoukka saying something similar. There is nothing in the film that suggests that the eels could effectively face-hug. They just outright killed those dudes. I don't think that could be a likely scenario.
 
I know this is a joke, but I can see zoukka saying something similar. There is nothing in the film that suggests that the eels could effectively face-hug. They just outright killed those dudes. I don't think that could be a likely scenario.

Yeah, didn't Ford say she could see something in Milburn's oesophagus and then it just jumped out? Seems all it does is kill.
 
Are the Jockeys evil though? Why do people assume that life more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat animals that we are more intelligent than?

Us being genetically identical does throw a bit of a spanner in the lab rat theory.

That's more eugenics, seeing less intelligent ones as worthless and expendable. Which is a tad evil.
 
So in Alien, the 'space-jockey' with it's chest burst open, can you now presume that is Shaw?

I wouldn't think so, but it'd be a batshit crazy twist. The sequel will deal with her going to the Engineer's planet.

I'd assume that the ship on LV-426 is one from the military base.
 
So in Alien, the 'space-jockey' with it's chest burst open, can you now presume that is Shaw?
I suppose, in the sequel Shaw could crash on LV-426. But then where did the facehugger on her ship come from? And don't say the fucking goo...
 
Are the Jockeys evil though? Why do people assume that life more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat animals that we are more intelligent than?

We really don't know. David may have messed up the translation and said something about the Engineers mother which set him off.

I much prefer the Lovecraftian idea that they're on plains of existance so much higher than us so we're nothing more than livestock to them.
 
We really don't know. David may have messed up the translation and said something about the Engineers mother which set him off.

I much prefer the Lovecraftian idea that they're on plains of existance so much higher than us so we're nothing more than livestock to them.

Yeah it struck me as very Lovecraftian, from the monsters to the Engineers themselves.
 
I know this is a joke, but I can see zoukka saying something similar. There is nothing in the film that suggests that the eels could effectively face-hug. They just outright killed those dudes. I don't think that could be a likely scenario.

You can't facehug something without a face. Worms are hermaphrodites so that's why the eel was so highly developed. I guess that was the mature xenomorph from a worm host. And the final form has been a drone that kills/serves the queen in the other movies.

And like I said earlier the engineers might be hermaphrodites as well.

Are the Jockeys evil though? Why do people assume that life more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat animals that we are more intelligent than?

Yeah I got the feeling that the engineer thought these humans aboard his ship were nothing more than insects.
 
I wouldn't think so, but it'd be a batshit crazy twist. The sequel will deal with her going to the Engineer's planet.

I'd assume that the ship on LV-426 is one from the military base.

I wonder if they will do a sequel.

I suppose, in the sequel Shaw could crash on LV-426. But then where did the facehugger on her ship come from? And don't say the fucking goo...

So do we think that the two are un-related. It was just another ship on LV-426. But where did that facehugger come from?!
 
I'd love to see a Xenomorph from every host ever, and then they could have a big fight or orgy or something.

Prometheus 3 please
 
People keep saying "queen" but was that an alien queen? I just assumed it was merely a more primitive version of the xenomorph we know and love - like apes are to us.
I don't believe it's the queen, it might be a queen that's not quite reached that spot on the evolution ladder.

You could be right I suppose. But the worms seemed at the peak of their evolution, killing Milburn and then just diving back into the goo. It's very non-committal what the goo does, which is a bit confusing. If it's a biological weapon then why does it have 50 different effects?
I think that the worms are actually the ancestors of the facehugger, it has the same characteristics. It opens pedal-like, add pedals and change it into spiderlegs and viola. It also like the facehugger has enormous strength. Once a facehugger is wrapped around your neck, you are done for until it's done raping you. Same here, it found a way inside his suit by clinging to his arm and breaking it. And it wasn't instant, like a facehugger the more you struggle the harder it clings. To me this all seems like they are showing the complete evolution of the alien that we all know and love, the perfect predator.
 
I've just read the 1st page. I'm watching it tonight.

The fact that we figured out most of the plot before the film hit is a bit depressing. I was hoping to read this thread and go all "FUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" but not one surprise :(
 
I've just read the 1st page. I'm watching it tonight.

The fact that we figured out most of the plot before the film hit is a bit depressing. I was hoping to read this thread and go all "FUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" but not one surprise :(

The trailers pretty much gave the film away in sequence which was pretty crappy. You'll realise a few of the quotes in the trailer are out of context when you see the film however.
 
I've just read the 1st page. I'm watching it tonight.

The fact that we figured out most of the plot before the film hit is a bit depressing. I was hoping to read this thread and go all "FUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu" but not one surprise :(

I was surprised that Shaw's "child" turned into a giant facehugger squid. Honestly did not see that one coming.
 
The trailers pretty much gave the film away in sequence which was pretty crappy. You'll realise a few of the quotes in the trailer are out of context when you see the film however.

Showing the ship crashing was just so fucking stupid, it really was.
 
They pretty much gave that away in one of the last TV spots as well.

I suspect that she might get impregnated and they'd have to operate on her, but that her offspring actually turned into... that thing was pretty nuts. Did they actually give that away? The ads had started getting so bad that I closed my eyes and put my fingers in my ears when they came on.
 
You can't facehug something without a face. Worms are hermaphrodites so that's why the eel was so highly developed. I guess that was the mature xenomorph from a worm host. And the final form has been a drone that kills/serves the queen in the other movies.

And like I said earlier the engineers might be hermaphrodites as well.



Yeah I got the feeling that the engineer thought these humans aboard his ship were nothing more than insects.

Pretty much this. They're test subjects to him. Humans could be like monkeys to him. Monkeys in a part of the lab that they shouldn't be in. People keep saying that humans are supposed to be close to Jockeys in make up, but we aren't Jockeys. Why would the engineer treat them like equals? Look at how a lot of people regarded black people 60 years ago even though we're all the same species. Now imagine a creature that has a much longer life span than us, bigger, stronger, smarter and so advanced that it travels the universe and creates life as an experiment. I doubt they would view us as equals and treat us kindly.

And people keep calling the liquid a magic goo. In real life we have things just like that, but they aren't quite as volatile. The common cold, aids, and biological weapons.
 
Pretty much this. They're test subjects to him. Humans could be like monkeys to him. Monkeys in a part of the lab that they shouldn't be in. People keep saying that humans are supposed to be close to Jockeys in make up, but we aren't Jockeys. Why would the engineer treat them like equals? Look at how a lot of people regarded black people 60 years ago even though we're all the same species. Now imagine a creature that has a much longer life span than us, bigger, stronger, smarter and so advanced that it travels the universe and creates life as an experiment. I doubt they would view us as equals and treat us kindly.

I agree with all this, but it acted like a fucking stupid creature, running around not speaking or even attempting to communicate and thrashing its arms.
 
I suspect that she might get impregnated and they'd have to operate on her, but that her offspring actually turned into... that thing was pretty nuts. Did they actually give that away? The ads had started getting so bad that I closed my eyes and put my fingers in my ears when they came on.

Yeah there was a TV spot with the tentacles enveloping the Engineer along with trying to get Shaw. You didn't see the whole thing but it was fairly obvious the way it was going.
 
Yeah there was a TV spot with the tentacles enveloping the Engineer along with trying to get Shaw. You didn't see the whole thing but it was fairly obvious the way it was going.

I guess Fox thought an audience wouldn't buy into a science fiction movie without all the money shots. Shame, really. Hopefully any sequel is marketed with more mystery.
 
I think the idea of a wise, benevolent creator - or at least one that doesn't have a sense of sadistic irony enough to stroke someone's hair before tearing their head off - is more interesting than one that runs from its ship to go beat up a "chimp".
 
I think the idea of a wise, benevolent creator - or at least one that doesn't have a sense of sadistic irony enough to stroke someone's hair before tearing their head off - is more interesting than one that runs from its ship to go beat up a "chimp".

Hopefully it's some sort of instance where this one is just a grunt and those on the Engineer's planet are more intelligent.
 
I think the idea of a wise, benevolent creator - or at least one that doesn't have a sense of sadistic irony enough to stroke someone's hair before tearing their head off - is more interesting than one that runs from its ship to go beat up a "chimp".
Haha, i loved that little detail. Who wouldn't want to caress Fassbender's hair?

That 'chimp' did just cause his ship to crash while he was in it. She was the only one left alive and he remembered her from when she fled when he hadn't pursued her.
 
Hopefully it's some sort of instance where this one is just a grunt and those on the Engineer's planet are more intelligent.

I truly hope this is not the case and we won't get some stupid space opera finale where humans and engineers can negotiate. That's kids stuff.
 
I truly hope this is not the case and we won't get some stupid space opera finale where humans and engineers can negotiate. That's kids stuff.

And yet its better than a supposedly advanced being running around like a fucking braindead oaf.
 
Eh he disposed of the crew quickly and proceeded to continue his mission. After the wreck he was surely pissed.

He took the time to chase Shaw instead of heading towards another space ship. He was dumb and reckless and vengeful. Not very smart or wise, to be honest.
 
He took the time to chase Shaw instead of heading towards another space ship. He was dumb and reckless and vengeful. Not very smart or wise, to be honest.

Maybe he thought there was additional danger with these humans that just dropped his ship. And he might've been vengeful too. He's close to a human after all, not some omnipotent god that some people wished for.
 
There was only one Earth-like planet (well, moon): LV-223. However, LV-426 was noticeably pretty hostile before it had begun to be terraformed, so... maybe?
 
What wreck? Didn't they land on 223 intentionally in order to farm/store goo?

After he crashes his ship he means, when the Prometheus takes it down. So he's pissed and goes after Shaw.

I don't go by that, it's the writers making the Engineer a physical threat without making him an intelligent being like they've made out.
 
So when the dude gets infected by David spiking his drink with the black goo - what does that stuff actually do to you?

Is it the same stuff as what the Engineer took at the start of the movie? It just breaks you down?
 
And it turns out the "weapons" were specifically meant to destroy them (mankind, that is).
Why though?

And those guys who want to destroy mankind? They also created mankind.
Why though?

I got the feeling that that dude who created mankind (guy at the start with the cloak) was something of a rebel. the aliens went and checked out earth a bit and he thought 'fuck it I wanna be god' and made everyone without permission.

Then the rest of the aliens though 'oh bad man, let's correct that error' and then their weapon was waaay to good at killing things like humans (like them, for example)
 
I got the feeling that that dude who created mankind (guy at the start with the cloak) was something of a rebel. the aliens went and checked out earth a bit and he thought 'fuck it I wanna be god' and made everyone without permission.

Then the rest of the aliens though 'oh bad man, let's correct that error' and then their weapon was waaay to good at killing things like humans (like them, for example)

Why did they wait so long?
 
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