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Ridley Scott said:
It came from Tom Rothman, who’s a smart fellow.
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Okay. Now I've heard everything. ROFLMAO. No wonder Ridley Scott gets fucked around by Fox so much. He actually thinks they're smarter than him! LOLOLOL!
 
So have the sequel(s) been confirmed yet? It's clearly a work in progress. My only major beef with the movie was how fast the events went on. It should have been a longer film. It would have fared better I think.
 
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Read that whole interview. What the hell is Ridley going on about with the cavemen drawing cave paintings ... And then again with the Jesus as emissary bit. Dude has lost it
 
Tookay said:
I miss the days when movies were standalone, told a proper story, and weren't advertisements for supposedly better sequels in the future that'll "fix everything."
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Of all the franchises to "leave everything for the sequel" for, too. James Cameron pulled the premise for ALIENS entirely out of his ass and that turned out pretty OK.
 
Zoramon089 said:
Uhh, because he's basically staring at the hologram all day and into the late hours of the night! Why is everyone always surprised by this? He was the first person to notice signs of life. He was the last living person to see the dead aliens with their chests burst open. He noticed the structure was concealing a ship. Why is him putting everything together such a leap in logic? He's not an idiot. He just took a hands off approach to all the exploration stuff but it was clear he thought more about things than he let on
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I saw more than he did, I have knowledge of future events he lacks and I didn't put all that together. Maybe I'm an idiot? I don't know. I just know that you can't say, " it was clear he thought more about things than he let on" and "Why is everyone always surprised by this?" in the same thought without me thinking your just defending the movie rather than talking about it critically.

And dude... it was a bit of a leap and shot and edited in such a way that underlined how jarring it was. Not the audience's fault if it came across weird.
 
The planet is LV223...Leviticus 22:3

"Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD.'"
 
Archer said:
The planet is LV223...Leviticus 22:3

"Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD.'"
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"...I meant to do that."
 
So why did David infect Holloway?

It would of been funny if Vickers outran the falling ship and got to the escape pod and took off.....only to find out later about the alien-like thing in the one of the rooms.

And also, Millburn is probably the worst "Security officer" dude everrrr...
 
Wow, Ridley is being really inconsistent with the info re: an Extended Cut

A few days ago he said there would not be one in that one interview (linked on the last page)

And yet here from today

http://collider.com/ridley-scott-prometheus-deleted-scenes-interview/172202/

You’re going to do an extended cut on the Blu-ray/DVD. Is it a lot longer?

SCOTT: Twenty minutes.
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then he says:

So there’s, like, twenty minutes that will be added back in for a longer version?

SCOTT: Maybe. But I’m so happy with this engine, the way it is right now. I think it’s fine. I think it works. It can go in a section where, if you really want to tap in, look at the menu. To see how things are long, and it’s too long. Dramatically, I’m about putting bums on seats. For me to separate my idea of commerce from art—I’d be a fool. You can’t do that. I wouldn’t be allowed to do the films I do. So I’m very user friendly as far as the studios are concerned. To a certain extent, I’m a businessman. I’m aware that’s what I have to do. It’s my job. To say, “Screw the audience.” You can’t do that. “Am I communicating?” is the question. Am I communicating? Because if I’m not, I need to address it.
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Honestly seems like it can go either way at this point. I think it could be a case where general reactions to the film might convince him to put the longer cut on video...
 
Alright, just got back from seeing this. I really enjoyed it, but I've definitely got my criticisms of it. Mostly I'm glad that we got another Ridley Scott style sci-fi movie. The fact that its actually from Ridley Scott is a bonus in my eyes.

My biggest problems are basically that it felt like they tried to cram in too many ideas and that I was very unsatisfied that we didn't get any kind of explanation for why the Engineers were going to send xenomorphs to exterminate humanity. I mean, absolutely nothing? Really? Give us something to chew on please.
 
Ether_Snake said:
I think that moon, and the temple and tomb, are the equivalent of heathen temples. It had been built by the "fallen angels", for mankind to reach one day. God found out about the actions of the fallen angels, and punished them. The non-fallen (or repented) jockeys realized this, and to correct things went there and set up the place with goo (goo=God's will in liquid form). So if humans made it there, as the fallen angels had hoped, God would smite them. The thing is, the fallen angels were not spared by this judgement either, and fell victim to it.

The engineer at the end is one who managed to survive, and when he sees that indeed God was right, humans have even made it to the temple, which is wrong and a sin and something they failed to correct and that the humans were not even dead, he tried to kill them. He saw the situation as even worst than before: the place was set up to punish sinful-mankind if it did make it to the moon that the fallen angels had lured them to, but now not only did the humans indeed make it there, they were still alive! Basically it confirmed to him that the angels really sinned and now had to correct their mistake, but this time the situation being worst (humans have interstellar flight, etc.), he has to go and "clean" the Earth itself.

I think this would really explain pretty much everything. The invitation, the "prometheus" myth is clear there, the faith-aspect, the purpose of the goo, the way the engineer acted, why he wants to go back to Earth suddenly, etc.
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That's actually a genuinely interesting look at the movie. I don't think it adequately explains why the engineers tried to get the humans to lv 223, and it doesn't excuse how everyone acted like they got beaten with a stupid stick, but it makes me think there might be some redeeming ideas in the movie.
 
Oh, also, having the well lit clear shot of the Alien at the end really drove something home to me: their heads look really stupid when you can actually see them. Like someone stapled a dolphin onto a dude's neck.
 
Scirrocco said:
That's actually a genuinely interesting look at the movie. I don't think it adequately explains why the engineers tried to get the humans to lv 223, and it doesn't excuse how everyone acted like they got beaten with a stupid stick, but it makes me think there might be some redeeming ideas in the movie.
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It would tie in well to the second movie if it deals with Shaw's faith.

She is going to meet her maker to ask why he created them and changed his mind, but she would find out that in fact human "wisdom" was given by fallen angels (evil), and that is why God wanted to "clean" mankind. So she would have to accept that God wishes mankind to remain dumb, while the fallen angels tried to wise-up mankind.

So it would challenge her faith. And Scott said paradise would be disturbing, it wouldn't be like what the fallen angels were doing since they are the opposite of what "good" angels are supposed to be doing.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Alright, just got back from seeing this. I really enjoyed it, but I've definitely got my criticisms of it. Mostly I'm glad that we got another Ridley Scott style sci-fi movie. The fact that its actually from Ridley Scott is a bonus in my eyes.

My biggest problems are basically that it felt like they tried to cram in too many ideas and that I was very unsatisfied that we didn't get any kind of explanation for why the Engineers were going to send xenomorphs to exterminate humanity. I mean, absolutely nothing? Really? Give us something to chew on please.
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Basically my thoughts here as well. Just came back from seeing it. love me some Ridley Scott movies and thank god it was a good sci fi movie, hasn't been a good one since Star Trek.

So I got a question about the two dudes that were first attacked, one got the vagina monster inside him and his hand broken, and the other guy looked like his helmet got sprayed by acid and died from it, but then he comes back as some type of creature to the ship and raises a shit storm, so what got him that way? And how come nothing came out of the guy that got his arm broken by the vagina monster, shouldn't there be something out of his stomach or something?

One thing I didn't like was how Shaw escaped from those 2 scientists and was able to use that machine to get the creature out of her stomach, she barely hit them and they were not unconscious and still saw her take two steps out of the room then suddenly she's in the other room?

Another thing was how they handled the situation between Shaw getting that shit out of her and the guys getting attacked by that creature thing, where was Charlize Theron's character doing during all of this, what happened between Shaw passing out to being awake. Should have at least showed the crew talking about what they should do and shit.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Oh, also, having the well lit clear shot of the Alien at the end really drove something home to me: their heads look really stupid when you can actually see them. Like someone stapled a dolphin onto a dude's neck.
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haha, I had the exact opposite reaction. that shot reminded me how badass and original the alien design is/was.

also.. dunno if this was posted but it's pretty funny. SMS dialogue between Noomi Rapace and an Engineer.
http://enchantedmitten.blogspot.com/2003/12/reading-previous-entries-in-this-series.html
 
Just saw this movie. Pretty movie but was a trainwreck. Every single character, and I mean every single one, did something INCREDIBLY stupid that I just could not believe. None of them reacted like normal people to any of the events happening around them. I just can't get over how stupid they all were and everyone I watched the movie with agreed. I think the worst contender was the captain and his two "co-pilots" killing themselves by ramming Prometheus into the alien ship. Literally minutes before he was notified - with no evidence I might add - that the alien ship is going to destroy everyone on Earth (?!) for some unknown reason. No questions asked he just decides to ram the alien ship and kill himself. I didn't even realize that's what was happening until it happened because I didn't think the movie could get that much dumber. Co-pilots fall under the stupidity bracket for this as-well.

I think they were even smiling when the captain yelled "HANDS UP" like that was some sort of protocol or some shit.
 
Cake Boss said:
Another thing was how they handled the situation between Shaw getting that shit out of her and the guys getting attacked by that creature thing, where was Charlize Theron's character doing during all of this, what happened between Shaw passing out to being awake. Should have at least showed the crew talking about what they should do and shit.
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No one ever talked about anything that happened. They just moved on to do the next scene. There was never any reflection, any analysis, any thought given to their situation. Just terrible.
 
Freakinchair said:
Just saw this movie. Pretty movie but was a trainwreck. Every single character, and I mean every single one, did something INCREDIBLY stupid that I just could not believe. None of them reacted like normal people to any of the events happening around them. I just can't get over how stupid they all were and everyone I watched the movie with agreed. I think the worst contender was the captain and his two "co-pilots" killing themselves by ramming Prometheus into the alien ship. Literally minutes before he was notified - with no evidence I might add - that the alien ship is going to destroy everyone on Earth (?!) for some unknown reason. No questions asked he just decides to ram the alien ship and kill himself. I didn't even realize that's what was happening until it happened because I didn't think the movie could get that much dumber. Co-pilots fall under the stupidity bracket for this as-well.

I think they were even smiling when the captain yelled "HANDS UP" like that was some sort of protocol or some shit.
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I agree in general, but with the captain... he was the one who put together that it was full of bio weapons.
 
FullMetalx said:
It does make sense. I mean we don't know anything about these engineers yet. For all we know their society is full of war and they want to exploit biological weapons like we did in our past.
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Maybe they should consider cloning? Seems a bit more time-efficient than seeding life on a planet and waiting millions of years (especially considering you'd also have to either keep intervening or have a lot of luck: natural selection might not be all that interested in slowly turning the life you seeded into something that's eerily similar to you).


JB1981 said:
Read that whole interview. What the hell is Ridley going on about with the cavemen drawing cave paintings ... And then again with the Jesus as emissary bit. Dude has lost it
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I find those interviews quite disheartening...


Joe Shlabotnik said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38739148&postcount=2958
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And even before that...
 
So the Space Jockey was our protagonist right? She stole a ship with a more evolved version of Xenomorphs on board and crashed or landed wherever wearing the space suit.
Nostromo finds her on that desolate planet where she died?

One thing I did like about this movie, is that I've always thought it was interesting that the Alien was a perfect machine to kill hmans. Every step of it's biology revolved around killing humans. I used to wonder about their home planet, and where they were on THAT food chain. They have acid blood, did that evolve to stop predators? Are there animals on there planet evolved to ignore acid?
Do creatures on their planets all make equally good hosts and victims to face-huggers?
Now I know they were created specifically to kill us.
 
Sunshine is a much better film than Prometheus. It looks better, has a better story coupled with a better script, and has a far superior 3rd act. Additionally, Danny Boyle is currently a better director than Ridley Scott, who really needs to give it up at this point.
 
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