PROMETHEUS UNMARKED SPOILER THREAD!

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I know for a fact you can't highlight any moment in Prometheus that was great character interaction. Because it had none.

From the top of my head: David - holloway at pool table. Cap'n and Vickers getting it on. Cap'n leaving the broteam to be eaten by aliens (it was hilarious).

And besides, it's not really a character driven movie all that much. Best stuff happens usually with only one character on screen.
 
The more time that passes after having seen this the more I dislike it. I think I'd now rank it the worst movie in the franchise, below both AvP movies.
 
The more time that passes after having seen this the more I dislike it. I think I'd now rank it the worst movie in the franchise, below both AvP movies.

with pure enjoyment factor I probably would too. though that doesn't say AvP were good movies. They at least had stuff happening on screen to distract from the lack of plot or characters.
 
AVP/R and Resurrection have some hilaribad elements to them that make them fun to watch in the right circumstance.

I can agree here, there was no wasted potential with those so they make great riff fodder.

The only thing this movie has going for it is art direction and cinematography. Action was boring and plot shallow as the characters were.

I think that and the ambition of the base ideas is enough to keep it from AVP levels of shit, but anyone saying it is up their with Alien or Aliens would have to be nuts.
 
I think I'd put Resurrection over Prometheus. Not that Resurrection is good, but it's somewhat more entertaining than this and maybe more coherent even.
 
If a movie is going to be bad then it should be so bad that it's good.

Why was it that during the scene when Janek was telling Shaw that the planet was a silo for WMDs and that he couldn't condone anything leaving the planet that Shaw did not tell him about the squid baby in the medpod?

Did she not think it was important to tell him about the alien lifeform she just had cut out of her that grows to "3-month old size" in 12 hours or so?

Was his entire purpose to just to say some expository dialogue as to the purpose of the planet?

I think I'd put Resurrection over Prometheus. Not that Resurrection is good, but it's somewhat more entertaining than this and maybe more coherent even.

Hmmm, I'll have to watch that one again. Prometheus was pretty amazing yet awful in the strangest ways. Resurrection was like this too IIRC.
 
Fuck it, can't wait for Friday

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I think the idea is, 2000 years ago, they were going to wipe out life on earth.

Then when Space Jockey wakes up, he boots them from the ship and tries to take off. They really have no idea what he's trying to do, or where he's actually going at that point. They assume earth since that was their own agenda.

2,000 years later with his crew all dead? He might have had other notions.

Where does the "they were going to destroy life on Earth 2000 years ago" come from?

Also a few pages back the images of the Engineers on presumably Earth from the opening shot...are those from a director's cut?
 
Where does the "they were going to destroy life on Earth 2000 years ago" come from?
David said they were about to leave for Earth when shit hit the fan, and that was 2000 years ago. Lindelof pretty much confirmed that by saying one could take a good guess as to what made them change their minds about mankind 2000 years ago (and of course, Scott went ahead and mentioned Space Jesus).

... But yeah, there were cave paintings from around 600 AD, at the beginning...
 
Where does the "they were going to destroy life on Earth 2000 years ago" come from?

Also a few pages back the images of the Engineers on presumably Earth from the opening shot...are those from a director's cut?

Few things actually

1.) Shaw carbon dates the dead, headless Engineer at the doorway. She determines that he has been dead for "nearly" 2,000 years
2.) David confirms, via the holosphere thingy, that the Engineers set a course for Earth before the outbreak at the installation.
 
Give me Dan O'Bannon and Jean-Pierre Juenet over this any time.

Honestly I watched the Alien DVD documentary yesterday and it sounds like Dan O'Bannon's original script was b-movie garbage. Walter Hill and David Giler rewrote the hell out of that script.

The only thing that stands out from O'Bannon's original script was the chestburster scene, the rest was apparently trash.
 
Few things actually

1.) Shaw carbon dates the dead, headless Engineer at the doorway. She determines that he has been dead for "nearly" 2,000 years
2.) David confirms, via the holosphere thingy, that the Engineers set a course for Earth before the outbreak at the installation.

Speaking of which, that doesn't make any sense, does it? So many civilizations had contact with the albinos, some younger than 2000 years old, like Mayans.

What a stupid screenplay.
 
Speaking of which, that doesn't make any sense, does it? So many civilizations had contact with the albinos, some younger than 2000 years old, like Mayans.

What a stupid screenplay.

I don't understand what you mean. When David activates the holo recording, you see the Engineers enter the room and select Earth as their destination.

What doesn't make sense?
 
I don't understand what you mean. When David activates the holo recording, you see the Engineers enter the room and select Earth as their destination.

What doesn't make sense?

Speaking about the whole "they were going back to destroy us" thing. Supposedly the albinos were going to do that more than 2000 years ago before they got killed themselves..but the movie establishes at the beginning that they had visited mayan and hawaiian civilizations...those didn't exist 2000 years ago.

You know what, i don't want to discuss it. Fuck it, fuck this movie.
 
It seems like Ridley cut too much. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those "plot-holes" and weird character motivations will be resolved in the director's cut.

I've been saying that since release day. I agree that that could be the case.
 
Quick question was the movie 48FPS or parts of it

My eyes went Whoa! at the start with the falls and DNA sequence, it looked good, so clear and real

I was really happy... please tell me my eyes weren't deceiving me

I enjoyed the movie a lot, damn the haters!
 
Speaking about the whole "they were going back to destroy us" thing. Supposedly the albinos were going to do that more than 2000 years ago before they got killed themselves..but the movie establishes at the beginning that they had visited mayan and hawaiian civilizations...those didn't exist 2000 years ago.

You know what, i don't want to discuss it. Fuck it, fuck this movie.

OK ... honestly I think you are overthinking the whole thing (even though you don't want to discuss it).

The Engineers had visited us throughout our development as a species. There is absolutely zero information in the movie or elsewhere that informs us that they were going to kill us prior. According to Linelof (and the information provided by the movie), there was an event that occurred 2,000 years prior to the events of the movie (likely the crucifixion of Jesus Christ) that caused the Engineers to change their minds about us. They were clearly on their way to wipe us out when something went wrong. A lot of this stuff becomes much clearer with a second viewing. Basically we killed Space Jesus.
 
Speaking about the whole "they were going back to destroy us" thing. Supposedly the albinos were going to do that more than 2000 years ago before they got killed themselves..but the movie establishes at the beginning that they had visited mayan and hawaiian civilizations...those didn't exist 2000 years ago.

You know what, i don't want to discuss it. Fuck it, fuck this movie.

I know nothing about Hawaiin civilizations, but the Mayans were a pretty long lasting one. First registers account for as far as 2000 BC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization
 
That Vicker's death was fucking LOL, something you do in cartoons, ZOMG the ship landed on her.. bwahahaha!

Also need Director's Cut of Idris Elba + Charlize Theron Interracial Love Making scene... please?
 
Couldn't there just be multiple factions of Engineers? Some want to see how their creations are progressing, nurturing us. While only a few dissenters want to use us as weapons or something or whatever. It's a bit simplistic to just think of them as one 'entity'.
 
Speaking about the whole "they were going back to destroy us" thing. Supposedly the albinos were going to do that more than 2000 years ago before they got killed themselves..but the movie establishes at the beginning that they had visited mayan and hawaiian civilizations...those didn't exist 2000 years ago.

You know what, i don't want to discuss it. Fuck it, fuck this movie.

That's a pretty disgusting oversight. Lindelol
 
The Engineers had visited us throughout our development as a species. There is absolutely zero information in the movie or elsewhere that informs us that they were going to kill us prior. According to Linelof (and the information provided by the movie), there was an event that occurred 2,000 years prior to the events of the movie (likely the crucifixion of Jesus Christ) that caused the Engineers to change their minds about us. They were clearly on their way to wipe us out when something went wrong.
And yet there are paintings from around 600 AD at the beginning of the movie...
 
Couldn't there just be multiple factions of Engineers? Some want to see how their creations are progressing, nurturing us. While only a few dissenters want to use us as weapons or something or whatever. It's a bit simplistic to just think of them as one 'entity'.

Well at least we can be pretty certain that there are soldier unit Engineers and more religious types like the one in the movie (and the ones we see in the stills online).
 
Hmm, come to think of it, even the later visitors link back to the same 'military installation' planet, so they couldn't have been 'peaceful'. It does sound like a massive oversight, heh.
 
We are never outright told they were coming to destroy Earth. It's all assumption on the part of David and Janek.

For all we know they were trying to escape whatever was chasing them in the ship, and Earth had been terraformed enough to support them.
 
It's not assumption when the writer goes on record saying that we did something to anger them 2,000 years ago and that's why they were on their way to Earth.
 
That Vicker's death was fucking LOL, something you do in cartoons, ZOMG the ship landed on her.. bwahahaha!

Also need Director's Cut of Idris Elba + Charlize Theron Interracial Love Making scene... please?

I would have hoped they would have came up with a more creative way of killing her. It basically was "you have been a bitch for the past 2 hours so now you get crushed."
 
Anyone got an answer to my first "?"

48FPS - yes or no or maybe or I'm going blind/vision loss?
 
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