Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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CrocMother
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Did it occur to you that they aren't protesting the election results?
They have a right to protest especially if they're not happy when over half of the people that voted didn't get their choice.
You may not believe democracy is rule of the majority but they might.
That's not unity
Fuck Unity.
People are supposed to forget who Trump is, everything he said and did? Everything is followers believe and have done?
Obama had to put up with people up his ass for eight years yet the same people who climbed up his ass and constantly insulted him and his actions are the same saying "Give Trump a chance, we need to come together"
Not one day should pass where people are not reminded what a piece of shit Donald Trump is and what pieces of shit and filth his followers are.
Electric Eye
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I remember the W Bush protests after the Supreme Court placed him in the White House too. You remember those gaf? Remember how everyone remembered those protests 4 years latter and took him out of office?
Well, that didn't happen and based on demographics it couldn't happen, but say it did Trump supporters (and certainly Trump himself) would be throwing around the rigged claim nonstop and some would definitely get violent.
I don't see the problem with these people exercising their right to peacefully protest.
Yeah, I know how the electoral college works. Trump's win was totally legitimate based on our current system. What I am saying is that our system is unfair. Popular vote is also flawed, because it makes campaigning very difficult, but it represents the people far better than the electoral college system. In the last 16 years, two (Republican) presidents have been put in office without winning the popular vote. That, in my opinion, is neither democratic nor representative of the values of this nation.
Zeyphersan
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Protests are democracy
maquiladora
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I know. I fully support the protests.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
She can go crawl under a rock for the rest of her days for all I care.
I was disappointed with Kerry twelve years ago. I can't even begin to articulate how I feel about Clinton's failure.
Due to the Electoral College (since Clinton won the Popular Vote) the election doesn't actually come to an end until December. They respect it, they don't agree with it and the final die has yet to be cast.
NyMartin90
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Alot of people are saying we won't have unity with this president. Why don't we wait and let him get to office and see how it works, not giving them a chance is showing opposition to even see their official offer.
This will breed more problems. Trump won the electoral college vote, while not the popular vote he is still legitimate and has been designated as such by the present administration.
Regardless of whether or not you want him, we'll have him for the next four (and maybe 8 if he actually does positive things) years.
This will breed more problems. Trump won the electoral college vote, while not the popular vote he is still legitimate and has been designated as such by the present administration.
Regardless of whether or not you want him, we'll have him for the next four (and maybe 8 if he actually does positive things) years.
Proelite
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Democracy worked in their favor, the republic didn't.
AlimNassor
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You did jack shit to stop Trump and you fucking know it. You want some fucking change? Then go vote in the local elections. FFS we've lost big fucking time. Instead of wasting time protesting, we should be focusing on how to rebuild the DNC and Democratic party.
Has there been any statements released on whether the protesters refute the results of the election? If so, then yes that's a bad move. Otherwise I'm not sure what the issue is with people expressing their thoughts on the result. There are other ways of engaging in a democracy than just voting.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Awww a prime example of our great democracy. Vote against what your constituents voted for. Kinda like how superdelegates just pick whoever the fuck they want regardless of what the people want.
They basically are. They wouldn't be there if he lost.
The Lone Courier
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Such as?
Dubbedinenglish
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Have you seen his cabinet? He doesn't need to take office for us to know what we are getting.
DorkLord54
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Exactly.
People are not protesting because they think that he did not win or there was some gimmick, they are protesting because he is a piece of shit.
gutter_trash
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scrap the Electoral College.
Adopt Proportional Representation.
1 human = 1 vote
HRC won the popular vote
Adopt Proportional Representation.
1 human = 1 vote
HRC won the popular vote
OniBarubary
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If you are criticizing this you are very specifically the type of people this protest is against.
NyMartin90
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Then perhaps its up to the Supreme Court and Legislative branches to change the system but to demand a change of the system based on an unpopular vote is disrupting our system and will create a larger issue.
CrocMother
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Protesting isn't necessarily about accomplishing political goals.
It's a healthy way for society to let off steam. We've got a lot of angry people, and this is how we collectively express that anger.
Rentahamster
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To express their opinion about that. Nothing wrong with that. I support their efforts.
This isn't a game for people, they just saw the country they live in elect someone who stood for a lot of deplorable things targeted directly at them or people they know. To them this means there voice wasn't heard enough, and they want to make sure that despite losing the election they want others to know that not only will they not back down, but they will make it that much harder for people to ignore them. A peaceful protest against those who let this happen and against this candidacy is healthy and wish for it regardless, if Hilary had won and the right wing people took the streets in their cities and peacefully protested too saying they wouldn't stand for it, I might think their reason for protesting sucked but I would understand and accept it as a necessity for a free country.
I don't know. And I don't even know if it'll create a movement. But if a movement is to be sparked these are the type of events that do it. I think there's enough contempt for the system that something like this could continue and snowball into an effective movement.
At this point, it looks like its angry democrats vs Trump. My hope is that WHEN Trump pisses off the very people he voted for them (when he doesn't come through with his promises) and people start realizing he's as establishment as they come (and they will say that he's been tainted by the establishment to protect their egos) that they join in.
Too early to tell how this will all play out. But this is SOMETHING, and it's not something to be slagged off as just angry protesters and they should have just voted.
DontBeThatGuy
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I'm sorry, do you have a problem with them using their right to protest as a nice "fuck you" to our newly elected national embarrassment? You think that is somehow hypocritical?
Baron von Loathsome
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They have a right to feel enraged that half of this election's voters implicitly disrespected major racial minorities.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I assume you are talking about the Democratic primaries. In which Hillary won the popular vote too.
The Electoral College was designed with this exact situation in mind. But I guess when the Founder's intent goes against conservatives it doesn't matter.
gutter_trash
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yup, reminding Trump that he failed to win the Popular Vote
Impeccable
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... people have every right to protest.
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