Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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Vestal
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I live in Pinellas County Florida. My goal for the next 2 years is to get Rick Scott the fuck out of Florida and get a Democrat elected in my home state. My fight starts here.
Agreed.
Barack Obama was not accepted as our President by a lot of people because of hate. I will not accept Donald because of love. I love all the people Donald hates too much to give him the respect that the title of President deserves. He will never be President Trump to me. He is Donald. He will always just be Donald.
KeyBladerXIII
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I await with morbid curiosity to see Trump's attempt at reaching out to the citizens he has rallied his base against.
I expect nothing.
I expect nothing.
I thought that turnout was higher in Philly -- plenty of enthusism in the cities.
Tal Shiar Agent
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This election was going to result in the end of the 6th Party System either way.
Nope. He tells it like it is about pussy grabbing and human extinction. There is a direct line of correlation between saying polically incorrect things and being a champion of change. Factoid.
Yes because a far left party will really bring in the states that voted against you to start with. Maybe work to making the Democrat party more inclusive to rural Americans. Trying to win elections though controlling cities isn't going to work out well anymore.
Power to you man I voted straight Dem ticket and at least we got McCrory's ass out of the fucking governors chair.
I'm right there with you, brother.
We need to nab the govenor among other positions in 2018
DerekOfTheDykes
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That's good reasoning for why we have two different sides of Congress, one of which is based on population and the other on equal representation between all states. In a body of multiple representatives, it makes sense to give somewhat disproportionate power to smaller, less populous states to make sure they aren't drowned out.
It is not a particularly good reasoning for the election of the highest office in the nation, which is held by a single person. Especially when, as it stands, only a small handful of states have any say anyway (or did you think Ohio and Florida are actually the most important states in the country?). Better we all have an equal say in our vote no matter where we live than to be, in my example, a Democrat in Kentucky who might as well piss on his ballot every two years because my vote means nothing and a farmer in Ohio's vote is worth his own weight in gold.
EDIT: And I can tell you from experience that Ohio farmers tend to be big fellas.
Vestal
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I reached out to a friend in the DNC who is a Senator in upstate NY to get some guidance and contacts down here in FL.
Puck Beaverton
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OT but related to the electoral college
I wonder what the liberal in Montana feels?
I wonder what the liberal in Montana feels?
Bolivar687
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Isn't the more logical protest against (at whatever level possible) the electoral college system? Educating the public to its antiquity and failure across the board? It seems to me that, if they could somehow reform or eliminate it.. the rest of this would be a non-issue, overall.
PsychoSoldier
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This is assuming that rural counties in America turned out big because of policy differences and not because of white resentment.
Let's just say I have my doubts.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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welcome to every American minority protest thread on GAF ever
Trump enjoyed a lot of votes that came from people just frustrated with a system they viewed as heavy-handed, and just wanted change for change's sake. The left could appeal to the same kind of sentiment if they fucking grew a pair and put forth a candidate that was far left and also spoke to working-class folks in a real way.
Oh, wait that's right. The DNC doesn't want that.
Good. No unity.
Put fear into the hearts of the GOP. Make their leaders realize they can't go down that path without huge backlash and physical struggle from much of the population.
Civil war 2 looming sort of thing.
Maybe then they will come to some sense and keep themselves under control.
Put fear into the hearts of the GOP. Make their leaders realize they can't go down that path without huge backlash and physical struggle from much of the population.
Civil war 2 looming sort of thing.
Maybe then they will come to some sense and keep themselves under control.
OrbitalBeard
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Well, I'm sure many of these people did come out to vote last night. And now they're voicing their concerns over the future of this country. We should be happy about this, whether or not you agree with them.
Again, it's as if some of you completely forgot about the Tea Party.
As long as these people stay engaged, a movement like this can have major consequences in the future.
Vigorously oppose Trump on policies you disagree with. Support him on the rare occasion he actually tries to implement something decent (like infrastructure improvement, perhaps? Who knows what he'll actually propose). And rally behind candidates you agree with in two years. A midterm election can radically change everything.
I can understand where you're coming from here. And man, sorry to hear about your loss. That's horrible.
DerekOfTheDykes
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Probably a lot like this liberal in Kentucky. Like my voice has politically never mattered. In that graph getting shared around where only millenials vote, Kentucky STILL went Trump.
As long as the Electoral College exists, my vote does not matter for presidency any more than a conservative in upstate New York.
People have a right to protest Trump and what he stands for, it doesn't need to be about the vote (or lack thereof) at all. Good that it's starting early because we have a lot of work to do.
There should definitely be protests like these every time Trump does something that is clearly bad for the country (like 99% of the things he did, said, and promised during the election), but in this particular instance, Trump won fair and square. If they really didn't want him there, more should have voted.
More people did vote... for Hillary than Trump.
Puck Beaverton
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As a liberal in Kansas I agree. It's just more that even if Montana was blue your vote means little.
It's crazy man
It's not a protest intended to kick him out of office, it's a display of solidarity in the face of Trump voters to let them know they won't be able to fuck our country without heavy, vocal resistance.
apocaliptic
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Coming out? What the hell are you talking. The bases of democracy in every democratic country is to accept the result coming from the democratic elective process. It has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican.
It is that hard for you to understand the simple notions of the democracy? The only people coming out of the woodwork today are those protester. Where were they yesterday during the voting process? Don't forget that half of the American electorate voted for a candidate that you don't like. As you, they also have the right given by the constitution to protest. As you might have heard is called democracy. Those protests could escalate and would cause more harm than good. And then VIVA LA VIOLENZA.
You immediately profiled me, and this is what's wrong with this country.
WhiteWaterM00se
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I never post on here about anything personal. But this is too much.
Is the reports are true, that the protesters are blocking emergency responders, that is too much.
The protesters should all be arrested if they are blocking ambulance and fire trucks.
I'm all for peoples freedom of speech, and right to protest. But if your protesting affects the lives of others, that is something entirely different. There should be a swift an immediate movement to rectify this.
Public safety is above party lines. Regardless of who you voted for, you don't put others at risk. Elderly, children put at risk.
As someone who lived this nightmare personally, with the death of my son. I outraged at the moment. I would not risk that feeling upon anyone. It is a hell you will never escape from. Never.
Protesting without responsibility like this could possibly create that hell for someone else.
Is the reports are true, that the protesters are blocking emergency responders, that is too much.
The protesters should all be arrested if they are blocking ambulance and fire trucks.
I'm all for peoples freedom of speech, and right to protest. But if your protesting affects the lives of others, that is something entirely different. There should be a swift an immediate movement to rectify this.
Public safety is above party lines. Regardless of who you voted for, you don't put others at risk. Elderly, children put at risk.
As someone who lived this nightmare personally, with the death of my son. I outraged at the moment. I would not risk that feeling upon anyone. It is a hell you will never escape from. Never.
Protesting without responsibility like this could possibly create that hell for someone else.
PsychoSoldier
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But a lot of these places did go for Clinton, so they did go out and vote.
It's a perfectly valid thing to march to show your dissatisfaction even in a free and fair election.
Now that the election is over, protests are one of the only tools left in our toolkit to express our frustration.
Puck Beaverton
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I imagine people who protest also go out to vote
LGBT people deserve to be scared. Don't tell them they shouldn't be out there letting people they don't like this shit
GAF doesn't tolerate hate speech and this election won't change that. Good luck to any fools who think they have free reign to shitpost.
Agent_ShortBus
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I hope this goes on for weeks. Didn't know there where some going on in San Diego or I would have gone. I'm about to check and see if it's still going down and I'm out.
Not where it mattered.
The anger should be directly squarely at the campaign that someone managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of fucking Donald trump.
It was basically the same as 2012 AFAIK, which is still good.
Banana Aeon
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I'm not wasting the effort to come together with people that want to go back to the days where they could string people in trees.
Unity is impossible. It always has been. This passive bullshit is why an actual liberal party is needed.
Dubbedinenglish
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Sure but there should be equal anger at the laws that made it harder to vote and target to remove people from voting rolls. Enthusiasm was a problem definitely but voter suppression is just as big.
ProfessorMoran
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Hopefully these protests will remain peaceful and there will be no burning cars or broken windows.
hydragonwarrior
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If this election result doesn't do it, nothing will. DNC should start educating non-stop how important it is to get every last Democrat to vote in every kind of election, not just the presidential one.
ivanthebearable
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I would go to the one downtown if I could. Hope these protests go on as long as possible
jediyoshi
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Seattle police responding to reports of 4 shot downtown
Officers were converging on the area of Third and Pike. An anti-Trump rally, which started at Westlake Mall, turned into a march and was proceeding down nearby streets at the time of the shootings, according to witnesses.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...lice-responding-to-reports-of-4-shot-downtown
Officers were converging on the area of Third and Pike. An anti-Trump rally, which started at Westlake Mall, turned into a march and was proceeding down nearby streets at the time of the shootings, according to witnesses.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...lice-responding-to-reports-of-4-shot-downtown
Vestal
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Today is day 1 of proving this statement wrong.
Nothing galvanizes a movement or a party more than opposition.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Hillary's lead in the popular continues to grow. Voter suppression efforts in key states are a major contributor to her presumed electoral loss.
RPGCrazied
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He will call these protestors thugs as usual. Nothing will change.
The good fight. I am from FL and lived there most of my life, homie. There literally isn't a better place to work for change.
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