I live in Vancouver.
My favorite teams are Boston and Chicago.
What? that's pretty rare lol.
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PS, I Love You- Greg Miller's new PlayStation Podcast
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What? that's pretty rare lol.
TheCowboyPoet
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I live in Vancouver.
My favorite teams are Boston and Chicago.
FILTHY TRAITOR!
I think the point is simply that worldwide is Sony's focus while the focus for MS appears to be the US.
Roufianos
Member
The hate that Colin gets is ridiculous. Just because he's on a PS podcast he doesn't need to be a PS fanboy.
I agree with him about the Pro and the lack of killer apps on PS4 and I think a lot of gamers do.
Credit to him for having the balls to speak his mind despite his contacts at Sony.
I agree with him about the Pro and the lack of killer apps on PS4 and I think a lot of gamers do.
Credit to him for having the balls to speak his mind despite his contacts at Sony.
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Deleted member 471617
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I watch P.S. I Love You XOXO every week as I think that it's a good entertaining show. Gamescast is solid too. I agree with Colin majority of the time as what he usually says makes sense. And yeah, people get way too offended nowadays for every little fucking shit to where it's like, those people just need to shut the fuck up. Don't like or agree with someone or something, do what I do...ignore it and go about your day because getting offended and complaining about being offended isn't going to accomplish a damn thing except for wasting your time.
I watch EZA too but they have too many people on the show and the chemistry isn't there. Plus, they are huge PlayStation fanboys because as much as Colin and Greg get bashed about not knowing stuff, they don't know everything either. For Xbox related stuff, they have no interest in it so it's almost like im watching a second PS exclusive show at times.
Wish EZA would do a PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo brand show each week. That way, the cast would be the same for each show and the chemistry would be better. At times, it just seems like they're just going through the motions.
With all of that said, I watch both every week and for the most part, enjoy all of the respective shows.
I watch EZA too but they have too many people on the show and the chemistry isn't there. Plus, they are huge PlayStation fanboys because as much as Colin and Greg get bashed about not knowing stuff, they don't know everything either. For Xbox related stuff, they have no interest in it so it's almost like im watching a second PS exclusive show at times.
Wish EZA would do a PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo brand show each week. That way, the cast would be the same for each show and the chemistry would be better. At times, it just seems like they're just going through the motions.
With all of that said, I watch both every week and for the most part, enjoy all of the respective shows.
Ninja Scooter
Member
if people's criticisms and opinions offend you, you can choose to "shut the fuck up" and "ignore it" too, yet you chose to comment instead. See how that works?
IMO Colin and Greg leaving IGN was good for them but bad for us.
Beyond was a much better podcast than PS I Love etc. Having one more person would improve the podcast so much (not talking about having Tim "internet celebrity wannabe" Gettys please).
They are no longer producing quality content. The other day I watched an old IGN review from Greg and I realized I miss them. Right now they are more like commentators than journalists.
Regarding Colin, he has always been obnoxious, but now he is also insufferable. I think he actually enjoys alienating people.
The other day was the first time I was disappointed by Greg when I watched the embarrassing moment when Geoff Keighley skyped him on his LIVE show to talk about the Pro, only to realize that Greg doesn't have one because Sony didn't gave them one.
It doesn't matter if they think the Pro is not worth it, or if they don't have interest in it. The listeners have interest in it, it's their job to test it.
I'll go back to the idea that they are no longer gaming journalists. They don't think their job is completing a game to do a good review. They are gamers who talk about the stuff they are playing. There is no journalistic method to the way they produce their content.
TL;DR: The patreon money gave them the freedom to be lazy.
Beyond was a much better podcast than PS I Love etc. Having one more person would improve the podcast so much (not talking about having Tim "internet celebrity wannabe" Gettys please).
They are no longer producing quality content. The other day I watched an old IGN review from Greg and I realized I miss them. Right now they are more like commentators than journalists.
Regarding Colin, he has always been obnoxious, but now he is also insufferable. I think he actually enjoys alienating people.
The other day was the first time I was disappointed by Greg when I watched the embarrassing moment when Geoff Keighley skyped him on his LIVE show to talk about the Pro, only to realize that Greg doesn't have one because Sony didn't gave them one.
It doesn't matter if they think the Pro is not worth it, or if they don't have interest in it. The listeners have interest in it, it's their job to test it.
I'll go back to the idea that they are no longer gaming journalists. They don't think their job is completing a game to do a good review. They are gamers who talk about the stuff they are playing. There is no journalistic method to the way they produce their content.
TL;DR: The patreon money gave them the freedom to be lazy.
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Deleted member 471617
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Actually, nothing offends me or surprises me. Getting offended for any reason is just a waste of your own personal time especially when you won't be able to do anything about what's offended you anyway so what's the point?
RichiRamjag
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If you think that's people's problem with Colin, then you're downright wrong.
If nothing really bothers you, then what's the point of complaining about it and suggesting how others behave?
I agree that people to tend to be offended easily nowadays, but that's my opinion based on who I am and what I've been through. I don't know what anyone else has been through or what they've dealt with, so who am I to tell him what should or shouldn't be offensive to them? I let them have their feelings and I continue to have mine and and somehow the world moves on.
Ninja Scooter
Member
You are assuming people are "offended" when they might just be expressing their opinion, just like you are, but saying "offended!" and "outrage culture!" is an easy and lazy way for people to avoid discussion. If Colin doesn't want people to react to his opinions then he shouldn't be posting them in twitter or saying them on a podcast that's publicly available to anyone to listen to.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Which isn't the problem whatsoever.
I don't think that was people's main gripes recently.
JamesJoyce1882
Member
I also wasn't too happy about the PS Pro episode(s), but the amount of hate the two have gotten in this thread is ridiculous. People need to stop listening if they can't stand one or both hosts instead of hate-listening and complaining here for dozens of pages.
All the contempt here leads to absolutely nothing. Neither of them will have an epiphany because of a poignant comment on neogaf. There are hundreds of video game podcasts to listen to, including Beyond. Just stop listening and live a happier life.
I feel this thread is fubar at this point and should probably be renamed to 'PS I hate you: Collin Sucks' or something like that. A new thread to discuss the actual shows would be a nice new beginning.
All the contempt here leads to absolutely nothing. Neither of them will have an epiphany because of a poignant comment on neogaf. There are hundreds of video game podcasts to listen to, including Beyond. Just stop listening and live a happier life.
I feel this thread is fubar at this point and should probably be renamed to 'PS I hate you: Collin Sucks' or something like that. A new thread to discuss the actual shows would be a nice new beginning.
Dangansona
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A little late but I agree with a lot of this. I think people need to understand this airing of grievances isn't from "haters" but often from those like myself who has spent half of his life following these guys and flew from coast to coast to see them for Beyond 300. Obviously I consider myself a big fan, but I will say the even more rabid fanbase is somewhat dangerous because whenever someone has anything to say contrary to Colin's beliefs he responds with a flippant tweet and everyone rushes to him with "Yeah you show him" "the internet isn't all idiots" "#Colinwasrightagain" tweets.
The show has just grown more negative, less useful, and more automatic (you don't always hear it in Colin but Greg has a voice where he kind of slips into the same opinion he has given in 5 different videos that week that starts with "its one of those things right?" and ends with "you know what I mean?").
I still enjoy the show overall and the two of them as well. I'm not hating, just trying to air out some of the problems I've had with the show. Honestly I think I need to listen to the Gamescast more because I think Tim really adds something to balance out the other two.
tiredheadcrab
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It feels like every week Colin says something that upsets Neogaf. Ever since the pro reveal people have been on edge about this podcast. I still enjoy it and will continue to listen.
chromatic9
Member
About the PS1 mini console. Ridge Racer and RR Revolution have to be on there as well as Tekken 1-3. These games define PlayStation and are alternates to big Sega games.
How wipeout doesn't get a mention fuck knows but maybe its a Europe thing
How wipeout doesn't get a mention fuck knows but maybe its a Europe thing
Dangansona
Member
For the record I think the book of haters thing was funny.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
He acted pretty childish in this very thread, people tend to remember things like that. He/they haven't made things any better by refusing to cover the PS4 Pro, which is just bizarre for the no 1 Playstation podcast in the world. What's important to remember is that the negativity is mostly coming from huge fans, which see these incidents as symptoms of a larger problem with the show.
GreyOcelot
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They really did drop the ball big time by not getting a pro. Very poorly handled by them. I was basically 100% sure we'd get a PS I love you with them simply saying, "as we surmised, this thing is basically pointless... Especially of you don't have a 4k tv" and left it at that. If was an objectively bad decision on their part. Besides that I have no problem with them at all
H.Cornerstone
Member
While I get it's a joke (I didn't think it was funny, just weird), isn't it a problem that people who were once fans bring up problems they have with the show that have caused them to stop listening, and now we're just called "haters" and just made jokes of?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I can understand them not being interested, but refusing to cover it just seems needlessly stubborn.
DriftingSpirit
Member
lolLooking forward to seeing Colin and Greg's faces during that segment
SprachBrooks
Member
Looking forward to seeing Colin and Greg's faces during that segment
Looking forward to them saying "Glad you like it Tim, probably not a product for me personally though," and then having the fanbase flip the fuck out.
Dangansona
Member
Depends if that's who he's specifically referring to with that comment.
Lol I hate Roman numerals. Obviously 15.
Yup, people think we're just "haters" but how could that possibly add up when I've been reading Colin's work since before he went to IGN. We used to talk a lot on twitter because I was a history major in college, played hockey my entire life, have a second home with family in NY (spent summers there), etc., Etc.
If I was a hater I would just stop watching and that'd be it. Notice how my post history doesn't bitch about Jim Sterling, Angry Joe, etc. We critique Colin and Greg because we love them and are (read: have been for a while) concerned with the way things are going.
I wonder what pro enhancements a 16 year old game would get patched in.
Yeah cause that was how reserved Colin was when he first talked about it lol.
Anyway i like that people here just don't obey everything Colin says, it's good to question things. You can still appreciate someone but not agree with them all the time.
DriftingSpirit
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Are you suggesting that is the way they communicated their disapproval?
Salty Rice
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The more i read this thread the more i like Colin.
RedAssedApe
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Would love to know if their podcast downloads and/or Patreon money have suffered at all the past few months. GAF is the only discussion of the podcast I witness (and one RL friend who listens to it) so I have no idea if there's just a loud minority here that have issues w/ the show if it is a general opinion that a lot of people who listen to it have.
Personally I have no problems w/ the show and continue to tune in every week but I do wonder how fickle their audience is.
Personally I have no problems w/ the show and continue to tune in every week but I do wonder how fickle their audience is.
RedAssedApe
Banned
https://graphtreon.com/creator/kindafunnygames
https://graphtreon.com/creator/kindafunny
they seem to have a loyal core
Oh cool, didn't realize you could see that data on Patreon.
You've obviously not read some of the stuff on their facebook group and youtube comments lol, some people are convinced what colin says is law. Like i said, it's good we have peoole here who question their shit sometimes. It's funny because I'm actually most like Colin out of all of them and share most of his interests.
Sauce Marlow
Member
Some people literally base their entire political opinion on whatever Colin spews. He has a cult like following from "best friends".
RedAssedApe
Banned
the comments on debate discussion videos were embarrassing. especially comparing how they treated Tim's opinion versus Colin's. its hard to say if people commenting on twitter or youtube are actual patreon supporters though. could just be your typical alt-right troll/gater you find lurking to shitpost
SpideySenses
Member
There's such a contrast between Youtube comments for regular videos and political ones lately, I don't know if there's a section of followers who specifically watch them because there's a strong conservative voice but the vitriol Tim was receiving wasn't something you'd expect from other gaming outlets.
RedAssedApe
Banned
On the other hand Colin has talked several times about how he thinks conservatives in the gaming industry are afraid to make their beliefs known and that people thank him for giving them a voice (he tweets about people thanking him a lot about various things lol).
So I wouldn't be THAT surprised that these are legit comments from KF "best friends" and not trolls. Although the two aren't necessarily mutual exclusive. heh
Demoskinos
Member
And this is exactly why I was so let down with how Colin reacted to the Battlefield 1 stuff. He was literally telling people they were looking for something to be offended by. And instead of taking a moment to consider why people might react to that the way they did he just doubled down on his stance.
That's the kind of shit that really gets to me about Colin. His insatiable need to be right. And while I understand that a lot of the time they do talk in a joking manner with each other about stuff like the hashtag #Colinwasright and other things there is part of Colin that is an egomaniac.
Are these the same developers that told him about not being happy to develop for PS4 pro?
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I was on Colin's side with that. Colin is basically proof that I can agree with a conservative because I didn't think it possible. And yet frequently I find myself agreeing with stuff he says--only time I thought he was nuts was with The Witcher 3. If you get overwhelmed that's your fault, not the game's. I'm tired of people complaining about collectibles when they're reasonable or useful--just don't buy the freaking game if it's such a big deal, fam.
Sauce Marlow
Member
It's hilarious how they joke about Greg's ego, when clearly Colin has the biggest ego.