marcincz
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I've never played Fear Effect, but I watched a few minutes of gameplay and I am impressed. How long is this game? I've seen on HLTB site that 8 hours, but 4 cd's game?
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I've never played Fear Effect, but I watched a few minutes of gameplay and I am impressed. How long is this game? I've seen on HLTB site that 8 hours, but 4 cd's game?
Novum_Veritas
Member
Fear Effect 1 and 2 are pretty short, this is because most of the disc space is used for the movies or the pre-rendered movie data.
Both games are pretty good though, it has that cyberpubk feel to it. Sadly the 3rd was canceled for PS2.
8 hours should be legit for both games that is.
marcincz
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Novum_Veritas
Member
You're welcome, hope you can find them on eBay for cheap.
Tell us your impressions then
.Host Samurai
Member
Yeah Fear Effect was much shorter than Resident Evil, but it was soooooo good. I couldn't beat FE2 due to having zero health at my save point.
I still have Fear Effect 1 at my parents house, too bad I can't find 2 or most of my other PS1/Saturn games. I have no clue where they are as I have all my SNES/Genesis/N64 games. Feels bad man. Looks like I need to wait for a PSN release to beat FE2.
I still have Fear Effect 1 at my parents house, too bad I can't find 2 or most of my other PS1/Saturn games. I have no clue where they are as I have all my SNES/Genesis/N64 games. Feels bad man. Looks like I need to wait for a PSN release to beat FE2.
cj_iwakura
Member
It's amazing how fast both games escalate into total insanity.
speedlolita
Member
Interesting that they're both short, considering they both have four discs!
tav7623
Member
Well to be honest I don't know as I've never played the game or it's sequel before (in fact I just got the game last week while at a local retro game store, bought it cause lately I've been on a kick to play ps1 games I missed out on) and I just haven't gotten around to playing it yet (it's the only physical PS1 game I own that I've yet to touch/play), but I plan to change that very soon as I've heard it's a kickass game.
silent_snake
Neo Member
As someone already mentioned, that's primarily because both games use pre-rendered videos as backgrounds. I think it looked great and every scene felt very dynamic and vibrant. I loved that and the overall atmosphere of Fear Effect games.
Emperor Bohe
Member
Are there any resources out there that have ps1 character models for download?
Novum_Veritas
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Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Finished Arc the Lad. The fuck at the "ending". I can't imagine how pissed people in Japan must have been when they first got this and had to wait over a year to finish the story.
sixteen-bit
Member
And the game was like 6 hours lol
IrishNinja
Member
holy shit that's short for a JRPG
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
It is a fucking weird game with how quickly paced it is. You are immediately thrown in, find your party members, collect five things, have a weird boss fight that you don't even realize is the end of the game, and then... To Be Continued!
It's weird. We were lucky to get the whole collection at once. I would be pissed to not have the "sequel" immediately available. I believe Part Two is supposed to be like 50+ hours.
sixteen-bit
Member
Famously in Japan there was like a 2 page magazine as that just said "Arc the Lad II is not Arc the Lad" as if to apologize.
The whole game is most likely duplicated on both CD, it would weight something like 4 to 8MB. It's the cutscenes that had to be spread through discs, and when one is missing the game is telling you to insert the other disc.
IrishNinja
Member
i think it was lunar 2 as far as midis? i forget but i know one of them sounded nowhere near as good as the original sega-cd version
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
That would suck. I played the first on Sega CD, but intended to play the second on PS since that's the version I have.
Well I know the original one (Sega CD) sounds much better than the PS1 version when it comes to Silver Star. I think CJ Iwakura mentioned the difference between the audio there (plus since i've got both versions at home for the time being, you can really tell the difference).
Dunno about Eternal Blue so I might PM him.
Thats what I was going to do if there isnt that big a difference between the games (both audio and difficulty wise...sucked that they took out overworld battles for the PS1 Silver Star).
I bought it day one with my PS1...
It sure felt short but I wasn't that upset because the optional dungeon was pretty long and the (not so great now) few CG movies impressed a lot my teenage mind.
Though it's only when I bought Toushiden just after that I really felt I was playing with a next-gen machine. 3D at home, that was incredible. Unfortunately, the game is pretty bad now, contrary to Ark the Lad.
cj_iwakura
Member
Neither does.
Eternal Blue Sega CD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmUcy_VBB7g
PS1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6_G9d3BjU
IrishNinja
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ah, i forget but i know one of them totally sounded subpar compared to the Sega-CD release though, i forget the details...bishopcruz played them more recently, i'll have to ask him
So on the subject of trades, think this is pretty fair? Not so sure about the asking about Breath of Fire 3 & 4 in the same shot. At any rate, those are pretty much some of the only RPGs left on my list:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127559378&postcount=18164
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127559378&postcount=18164
I just bought a few Japanese PS1 games, namely Vib Ribbon, Parappa the Rapper and Um Jammer Lammy, and I was wondering what the best setup to play them is. If I was to get a Japanese PS2 slim and plug it into a modern PAL HDTV, would it be able to handle the NTSC-J signal? Or is my best bet to get a Framemeister and run it that way?
I mainly bought them to have as collector's items, but I'd like to have a way to play them at some point as well.
I mainly bought them to have as collector's items, but I'd like to have a way to play them at some point as well.
sixteen-bit
Member
The best setup would be RGB on a broadcast CRT monitor. Especially for those games listed. Parappa, Lammy, and Vib Ribbon are all timing-sensitive rhythm games, and you don't want to deal with that HDTV or framemeister input lag.
How severe is the input lag introduced by the Framemeister? Also where would I go about getting an NTSC-J CRT broadcast monitor that can ship to Australia?
Getting something as large and heavy as a good CRT shipped to Australia would ultimately be costlier than just getting the Framemeister, so I might just go with that. It also means it'll be easier for me to temporarily hook up the JP PS1 when I want to use it, and then put it in storage when I'm done with it. I've got fairly limited space in my current AV setup so I can't have this stuff hooked up all the time.
Make sure you specify you want a complete Thousand Arms because who doesn't like holo cards.
speedlolita
Member
Gosh, these games are so special. All 3 look amazing on my KX-14CP1 too.
IrishNinja
Member
not in any way severe or damaging to the gameplay itself; it's really the HDTV's lag that you have to account for
The Framemeister takes around 20 ms to upscale. Add to that however long it takes for your HDTV to doll up an image. Some TVs are much, much worse than others. There are vast gulfs between TVs and it's largely undocumented.
To give you a better idea of how much time that is, In a 30 FPS game one frame lasts around 33 ms. In a 60 FPS game, it's more around 16 ms.
Street Fighter IV runs at 60 FPS, for example.
edit: also, kiss your light gun games goodbye
To give you a better idea of how much time that is, In a 30 FPS game one frame lasts around 33 ms. In a 60 FPS game, it's more around 16 ms.
Street Fighter IV runs at 60 FPS, for example.
edit: also, kiss your light gun games goodbye
IrishNinja
Member
^exactly...I didn't find the xrgbs 20ms at all noticeable on my last panny plasma, but my current model adds a bit more lag & can be felt on certain titles. Again though,this is very largely the TVs fault.
Also light guns aren't gonna work on any HDTV (some other peripherals too) due to refresh rates
Also light guns aren't gonna work on any HDTV (some other peripherals too) due to refresh rates
Well my Lunar isnt complete (no manual and no outer box) so I wouldnt think it would be fair. But so far, no one seems to want to trade lol. Either Lunar Silver Star with the map and all discs isnt as rare as I think, or every has it already.
Friend of Sonic
Member
They don't work on the non-curved (flat) CRTs either though, right?
IrishNinja
Member
That's a good question, I've not heard of it being an issue though? Hit that those model trinotrons/etc might not have as good image quality as the older round models
Friend of Sonic
Member
I guess it's an issue on *some* flat screen HDTVs because they have a different refresh rate (going back to your original point) Ahhh
BocoDragon
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All I know is I've played Duck Hunt on Sony and Toshiba flat screens of various sizes.
Friend of Sonic
Member
That's what's confusing about it. I have had failures on flat screen CRTs, and have heard similar stories. It appears to have something to do with refresh rates, and then some consoles themselves may fare better than a different console. Odd.
Ahh sorry didn't read close enough that you just wanted straight trades. Yeah I don't think Lunar is actually that rare except for some of the variant discs but we don't know their rates either because Victor won't spill just says that some are rarer than others. Did you make sure to let people know which disc you had?
Edit:
Yeah some of the games you have listed are not good deals for the trader. A complete Lunar 1 is a lot cheaper than a copy of Valkyrie Profile 1. The Breath of Fires seem like a good trade. I don't know about Albert Odyssey you may need to check prices on that since the Saturn games can fluctuate a lot.
To clarify, I can get a good Trinitron CRT pretty easily, but I'm in Australia so it's going to require a PAL input signal. Importing a CRT from Japan seems like it'd be prohibitively expensive so I'm ruling that out as an option. The two options I see are to either mod an Australian (PAL) PS2 to play games from other regions (not sure how to do that), or get a Japanese PS2 and run it through a Framemeister to use with an HDTV.
Red The Hunter
Member
One of my favorite gems on the PS1
Went back and changed up some of what I was asking for:
Lufia II SNES (cart only)
Skies of Arcadia Dreamcast (in original case with manual)
Thousand Arms PS1 (in original case)
Breath of Fire 3 and 4 (in original cases with manuals)
Vanguard Bandits PS1 (in original case)
Hopefully thats something more fair. Either that or in the end maybe i'll just end up selling. Honestly i'd really like to trade though. Guess it doesnt matter since if I sold it, the money would end up going towards another game anyway.
They do. They just don't work on anything that's not a CRT with a scan line frequency of 15kHz (and a vertical frequency of 50/60Hz). The geometry of the thing doesn't matter.
No VGA, no LCD, no Plasma, no 100/120Hz CRT.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Too bad it's only 5 hours long and feels like a prototype in many spots.
Looks good vanguard bandits is a great game along with thousand arms.
Friend of Sonic
Member
Well, thank you for clearing that up. I'm curious if there were any curved displays that had differing frequencies from the norm.
VGA computer screens, by definition.
For TV, 100/120Hz sets appeared pretty late, they were created to mitigate the flickering happening when displaying 480i. They were sold as higher quality TV, I doubt such tube were made with a round screen.
IrishNinja
Member
wow, i don't know if i even saw a 100/120Hz CRT
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