I have moved mine to a slightly more open area in my TV cabinet, the PS4 is upright (DVD at the bottom) - the heat / fan is on the right side of the PS4, so DVD at the bottom = heat rising out. I've also added a very small, very quiet USB duct fan to my TV cabinet. I'd say my PS4 noise levels are now acceptable, before they were between level 2 and level 3 of a PS3 slim (that ain't good)
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I have moved mine to a slightly more open area in my TV cabinet, the PS4 is upright (DVD at the bottom) - the heat / fan is on the right side of the PS4, so DVD at the bottom = heat rising out. I've also added a very small, very quiet USB duct fan to my TV cabinet. I'd say my PS4 noise levels are now acceptable, before they were between level 2 and level 3 of a PS3 slim (that ain't good)
Northern_Manny
Member
Mine is exactly the same. I saw a comment somewhere saying that they changed the fan settings in firmware 1.52 so the 'kick in' sooner but can't find confirmation anywhere and it was at the time of the update that I noticed that my PS4 got louder.
All works fine, it's just noticeably louder :s
I'm reluctant to put my PS4 inside a TV cabinet, even one with an open back. Not long after I got mine, I decided to get a feel of its heat level and was surprised by the amount of hot air getting out of the back of my PS4. And I actually put my PS4 on top of a stand in an open area of my room, so nothing actually interferes with its heat distribution. If the machine produces that much hot air in an open area, I can't imagine how hot it'd be in a more confined area, even with the back area opened.
I'm actually interested in putting mine vertical but I've seen people saying that the right hand side (the matte area) is also a place for air circulation. I can't detect any hot air coming out of there but I am guessing air actually gets absorbed from there? In that case, wouldn't making it standing vertically obscured the air flow? Even with the official stand, I'm not sure how much air it can actually get.
I'm actually interested in putting mine vertical but I've seen people saying that the right hand side (the matte area) is also a place for air circulation. I can't detect any hot air coming out of there but I am guessing air actually gets absorbed from there? In that case, wouldn't making it standing vertically obscured the air flow? Even with the official stand, I'm not sure how much air it can actually get.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Is there a good place to see upcoming PSN releases?
EGOMON
Member
I need an answer please
My PS4 has an entire shelf to itself in a TV Stand, horizontal, completely open, with wire management. I'll try sitting it upright like yours if the noise continues but man, I hope I don't have to resort to that.
They need to change it back, mine was perfect before. Literally had no issues with the console at all. I'm trying to play Flower and all I can hear is bwwwzzzzzzzzzz, it's jarring.
Hoping it just fixes itself if I can't do anything to help it.
killzone is my most played game by far. sp is ok. but mp is a blast.
ive also got ac4, knack, nba2k14. my next games will probably be nfs (after price drop) and tomb raider.
ps4 wont update when youre away if it's off. so yes, put it in standby.
ive also got ac4, knack, nba2k14. my next games will probably be nfs (after price drop) and tomb raider.
ps4 wont update when youre away if it's off. so yes, put it in standby.
EGOMON
Member
Thanks man
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Have a look at this article to make sure your settings are right if you want to.
PS4 Support - Enable Automatic Download of PS4 SEN Content
Any downloads etc will appear in the Notifications menu when you next turn on the PS4, they always have for me.
I don't think the PS4 will sync trophy info until you login to PSN or use the Trophies or Friends lists.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
You know how, with the current UI, when you press the home button from a game to get back to the system UI, it just shows the icon for the game? Like this:
I was thinking it would be better/cool if, when you hit the home button, it shows the live feed for the game where the icon used to be, so you kind of know where you are in the game (like a pre-game lobby in a multiplayer game) without having to get back into it. The PS4 reserved a lot of RAM for the OS, so it shouldn't be an issue I would think. Here's a horrible mockup I made. Imagine that the game is still running in the little window:
What do you guys think?
I don't think the PS4 is capable of displaying two entirely different things (the menu and the game) running live at once like that. MS designed their console for that (with quite a lot of system resources dedicated to the OS), Sony didn't. But what they could probably at least do is put a screenshot of the game there, taken at the time you switched away from it. So it would look like your mockup, but it wouldn't be a live miniature.
It's handled in a way that's supposed to be as transparent and seamless as possible for most people. Yeah, that means us "power users" get left out of some information we might want, but I absolutely understand why Sony did it like this. Showing a progress bar for the full install, rather than just the initial one needed for the game to be launchable, would confuse more people than it would help.
And anyway, can't you just listen to the disc spinning? It will stop once the install is done.
FeiRR
Banned
When you're streaming your gameplay with comments enabled, this is exactly what it's doing. The game view is scaled down a bit and a system-controlled app (comments, counter, camera picture) is included. So they probably reserve some part of APU resources for the system anyway but it must be a lot less than in case of X1. I don't think that displaying a window with overlay content is much of a problem for modern GPUs. TV cards for PC worked that way 15 years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay
Man, I just noticed that it's Dec 16 today. Having bought in on Nov 15, I don't think Sony will sell me a warranty at this point, right?
I have an August built PS4, so I should have done it earlier. Damn. I had to rip open my ancient PS3 and reapply the thermal paste, really don't want to do that again.
I have an August built PS4, so I should have done it earlier. Damn. I had to rip open my ancient PS3 and reapply the thermal paste, really don't want to do that again.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
That's not necessarily as demanding as running the full menu UI simultaneously, though. I just don't think the PS4 could do this.
So, I just noticed something weird. I downloaded the NBA 2k14 demo from the web store and checked my PS4 download queue. Apparently it's also downloading Trine 2, which according to my transaction history I purchased on the 1st of December for 0..
In the web store the game does not show up as purchased.
Is this a case of hte PS4 pre-downloading stuff that I might be interested in? If so then why does it say I purchased it over two weeks ago. I've played a lot since then and it never showed up on my download list. Despite the date it still shows up AFTER my other downloads, which I started only a few days ago.
Can anyone explaint to me what happened?
In the web store the game does not show up as purchased.
Is this a case of hte PS4 pre-downloading stuff that I might be interested in? If so then why does it say I purchased it over two weeks ago. I've played a lot since then and it never showed up on my download list. Despite the date it still shows up AFTER my other downloads, which I started only a few days ago.
Can anyone explaint to me what happened?
Is there some kind of weird-ass requirement that your controller has to be put into controller 1 slot in order for PS+ to acknowledge you? Especially for CoD: Ghost?
I just had a weird experience where I was going to play CoD: Ghost MP but it won't allow me because "You need PS+ to play MP". But I do have PS+ and I have activated my PS4 as my primary account.
I kept trying and trying but it didn't work for me....until I read on gamefaqs about how someone had problem with the controller on the 2nd slot. So I swapped the controller from the 2nd one to the 1st one and now it's working. But isn't that weird? Why restrict players based on controllers?
I just had a weird experience where I was going to play CoD: Ghost MP but it won't allow me because "You need PS+ to play MP". But I do have PS+ and I have activated my PS4 as my primary account.
I kept trying and trying but it didn't work for me....until I read on gamefaqs about how someone had problem with the controller on the 2nd slot. So I swapped the controller from the 2nd one to the 1st one and now it's working. But isn't that weird? Why restrict players based on controllers?
Mispelling. I'm gay myself and actually hate that word.
But any insight to what may caused the situation described above?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
see I'm the total apposite, Love SP but I just find the MP to be boring and dead
ACBlackflag is my most played game followed by KZ and NFSR, and TRDE is my next purchase.
What I find really disappointing is all the second screen and companion app are none existence, unless you have a tablet
AC4's on selected tablets, and NFS is iPad only at the mo
no Smartphone or Vita second screen stuff is available, the Vita not being available is annoying as it should be there day one
panda-zebra
Member
Are bundles easier to get hold of in the UK now? I noticed the "Mega Pack" is in stock at amazon (sold by amazon) - it's the killzone/pad/camera pack + Fifa for £470. Is this pretty much the only way to snag a unit before xmas do you think? Buying with games you potentially have no interest in? Also Gamer Pack which is same without Fifa.
EDIT: Mega Pack now gone, Gamer Pack still available.
EDIT 2: 15 minutes later and they're both gone. I guess I was wrong, it's not even easy to grab a bundle. Congrats to anyone who got one while they were there.
EDIT: Mega Pack now gone, Gamer Pack still available.
EDIT 2: 15 minutes later and they're both gone. I guess I was wrong, it's not even easy to grab a bundle. Congrats to anyone who got one while they were there.
I just don't understand how making one controller the lead is relevant to me being a member of PS+. If I already told the console that this PS4 is my primary console and that I am a PS+ member then why would it matter that I use the controller in slot 1 or slot 2? It seems a bit too restrictive for no apparent reason.
It's also dangerous because one of the slots may stop working and you maybe forced to use the other one but if this issue continues, then we'll have problem in the future. But in general, it just seems weird and doesn't make sense. Is it likely that it's a bug?
Rey
Member
Same here. Left handle is a bit loos. Very annoying.
Sir British
Banned
So I got a free PS4, I believe. Basically, I had a preorder for the 29th November, but Amazon or DPD lost my package. I got a refund on that and later on, courtesy of my friend, notified that Amazon had more stock of the Gamer Bundle so I jumped on it and ordered it quickly. Now it is currently at my mums...
...now I got a PS4 right here that was delivered to myself at the accommodation today. The PS4 is still at home.
So... I got a free PS4.
...now I got a PS4 right here that was delivered to myself at the accommodation today. The PS4 is still at home.
So... I got a free PS4.
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
You should probably contact Amazon. Don know if I would be able to keep it without it eating at my conscience.
Jigolo
Member
You know how, with the current UI, when you press the home button from a game to get back to the system UI, it just shows the icon for the game? Like this:
I was thinking it would be better/cool if, when you hit the home button, it shows the live feed for the game where the icon used to be, so you kind of know where you are in the game (like a pre-game lobby in a multiplayer game) without having to get back into it. The PS4 reserved a lot of RAM for the OS, so it shouldn't be an issue I would think. Here's a horrible mockup I made. Imagine that the game is still running in the little window:
What do you guys think?
I actually really dig this. I hope Sony does something similar
Sir British
Banned
lol.
Selling it to my friend for £300. I know I could get more, but I sell it at a loss to a friend that wanted one plus he did help me out with buying the gamer pack bundle when Amazon restocked it for a time.
EGOMON
Member
That was really helpful, cheers
It's not a loss if you got it for free. Not judging, I'd do the same.
SmokeCapone
Banned
I think there is a section in the ps store that u can purchase it from sony still.
I've actually noticed this on my controller too.
When I hold it I can feel the plastic on the left side being pushed together like it wasn't screwed together tight enough.
I'll have to see if I can tighten it up.
PS4s instock, get in quick before HUKD http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D781RPY/
edit: Wow, that was quick.
edit: Wow, that was quick.
Got a standard ordered for my brother for Christmas. Wish Amazon had an option to order the standard, Killzone and Knack packs all at once if you weren't bothered which one you were getting and just sent you whichever they got in stock first.
dreamer3kx
Member
Is it ok to put ps4 near a mostly open gated window, I'm worried about dust from outside getting into system.
You know how, with the current UI, when you press the home button from a game to get back to the system UI, it just shows the icon for the game? Like this:
I was thinking it would be better/cool if, when you hit the home button, it shows the live feed for the game where the icon used to be, so you kind of know where you are in the game (like a pre-game lobby in a multiplayer game) without having to get back into it. The PS4 reserved a lot of RAM for the OS, so it shouldn't be an issue I would think. Here's a horrible mockup I made. Imagine that the game is still running in the little window:
What do you guys think?
From a system perspective, it would be hard to pull off. MS has as an OS requirement for games to run at a much lower graphical setting when windowed, so that it doesn't eat up as much system resources. So when you zoom out of a game on XB1 to the dash, lots of graphical effects in the game (like AA) get turned off, but you'd never notice it because of the window's scale.
For PS4, having an OS requirement like that is pretty much too late, and to minimize it would be quite a task since it would also eat up system resources. You could put it as a screenshot like the Vita, except that the game is still running in the background, which would give you an out-of-date picture in just a few seconds.
How much system resources it would eat up, and if the PS4 could support it, I'm not really sure. I think a small window somewhere on the screen like YouTube's apps on mobile would be great when waiting for games to load. But I dunno how feasible that is.
Melchiah
Member
I have no problems with sharing images on FB, but for some reason the trophies I've earned aren't published there anymore like on the PS3, eventhough I've enabled it. Has anyone else had the same problem? I wonder if it has something to do with having "publish game events" disabled?
I would say that there is way more dust inside your room.
edit:
or you live in the dessert. then be careful young Luke Skywalker!
Score! Total opportunity buy. I went to Target this morning to look at digital cameras for my folks when I saw that they had 2 PS4s left from a morning shipment. Me and some other guy grabbed the last ones
Now to figure out how to put in my entertainment center while still keeping my PS3 (still have a backlog :/ )
Now to figure out how to put in my entertainment center while still keeping my PS3 (still have a backlog :/ )
R3TRO
Member
Score! Total opportunity buy. I went to Target this morning to look at digital cameras for my folks when I saw that they had 2 PS4s left from a morning shipment. Me and some other guy grabbed the last ones
Now to figure out how to put in my entertainment center while still keeping my PS3 (still have a backlog :/ )
Lmao at the cat!
In other news, I just went to GS to take advantage of the trade in 40 dollar special, I traded in KZSF, GTA V, Knack, ACIV, and NSFR and got 192.60. I fully paid off Infamous Second son and got 131 bucks worth of gift cards plus I donated a dollar to some childrens hospital.
All in all not bad.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Mine has, I wiped mine with a Canon lense cloth because it's a dust magnet and now it's covered in hundreds of scratches.
This is why I hate glossy plastic.
Goodacre0081
Member
I think a simple screen shot would do the job, no need to have the game in motion. the console already takes automatic screens whenever we press the Share button.
Slackbladder
Member
Well, I have my PS4 at last, more than 2 weeks after my launch PS4 "vanished". Unfortunately it wasn't delivered until 18:30 and tonight is night work. Doubt I'll actually do anything until tomorrow afternoon when I've had some sleep. Unbelievable!
panda-zebra
Member
No matter what I do I have the same issue, I just gave up and decided they'd disabled it early on to ease the load or whatever. However, a friend in Germany had a few of his display a couple of weeks ago - asked him what he did to make it work and he didn't know, said it was random.
Nomad Blue
Member
I bought BF4 for the PS3 the other day (when it was in the EU sale) using the SEN webstore, then after that bought the PS4 upgrade off there too.
Don't think it matters if you have a PS3, it'll just see that you own the PS3 version and the upgrade should become available.
don't worry updates are small and fast, PS+ games are small, Resogun is under 1GB, contrast isn't much higher and PSN downloads are much faster on PS4 than PS3, not to mention you can Play whist downloading/installing other stuff. You'll get plenty of game time.
Oh right, I see, I can redeem the code on SEN. Thanks!
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