BobbyColtrane
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They could sell me on one by putting out some clear info on exactly how this benefits VR. I already have an Xbox One S for my 4k gaming, and it plays 4K blurays!!
OP, you could check out this thread here. This discussion was started a month ago and it is pretty much the same as this one!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1281242
Even Nintendo did more with the 3DS and New 3DS
They could sell me on one by putting out some clear info on exactly how this benefits VR. I already have an Xbox One S for my 4k gaming, and it plays 4K blurays!!
? What games are you playing in 4k on a One S?They could sell me on one by putting out some clear info on exactly how this benefits VR. I already have an Xbox One S for my 4k gaming, and it plays 4K blurays!!
Hahaha no way. Once I saw a game running in 4K on my set I was sold.
4K gaming?They could sell me on one by putting out some clear info on exactly how this benefits VR. I already have an Xbox One S for my 4k gaming, and it plays 4K blurays!!
4K gaming?
1080p user, I'm keeping my preorder but I feel that Sony's marketing on this thing is terrible.
They could sell me on one by putting out some clear info on exactly how this benefits VR. I already have an Xbox One S for my 4k gaming, and it plays 4K blurays!!
I feel like the Pro has been a dud since its lackluster announcement, and its not even out yet lol
I can't stand when people on here point to a single game, like the Witness, to show what benefits a 1080p TV owner will get with the Pro. I get it, some games will be better. The point of the OP's post is that one game getting a Pro patch for us lowly non 4k tv owners is not enough. We have no idea how this thing will be supported for us in the future, if at all in any real meaningful way that makes it worth dropping $400 dollars on.
I admit I was confused about what 1080p TV owners will get and I am not 100% on it until Sony shows off examples of it. I need Sony to reiterated what will be the advantages as I don't believe what people say here because I remember back in 2013 all the people saying all the PS4 and Xbox games will be 1080p and 60FPS.
Sony and developers need to get a few more before and after images for both 1080p and 4K.
That's a relatively straightforward message to convey. You'll always have outlier reactions that sound loud, especially negative ones, but something like:
PS4: the best place to play, amazing library of multiplats & exclusives, now even smaller, quieter, better value etc
PS4 Pro: want something more? As the most powerful PlayStation ever, the Pro offers the complete PS4 catalog + from October all* games will be enhanced to display better on both HD & UHD TVs, bringing you superior 1080p gaming & the world of 4K HDR to you for $399
PSVR: Be a future explorer in new worlds of interactive entertainment, with PS4 or PS4 Pro you can be on the cutting edge of digital entertainment.
No-one gets upset by that.
Nonsense. There is far much misinformation regarding the PS4 Pro's 4k capability.Microsoft is thriving on ignorance re: 4K.
I don't know how they pulled off this narrative, but they did it. Xbox is almost synonymous with 4K now.
LOL! It's such a dud, they haven't even sold a single unit so far!
I admit I was confused about what 1080p TV owners will get and I am not 100% on it until Sony shows off examples of it. I need Sony to reiterated what will be the advantages as I don't believe what people say here because I remember back in 2013 all the people saying all the PS4 and Xbox games will be 1080p and 60FPS.
Sony and developers need to get a few more before and after images for both 1080p and 4K.
Oh, this does 4K gaming?
Nonsense. There is far much misinformation regarding the PS4 Pro's 4k capability.
Phil Spencer said day one that the One S is for 4k media and to wait for Scorpio for true 4k gaming.
Crystal clear and no mixed messages at all.
PSPro and PSVR selling 0 units in England confirmed?yet no one in England gives two shits about the Pro or VR.
Because you guys have been putting your hands in your ears. Every game that has a 4K oriented mode will be downsampled to your 1080p television by default, giving you significant visual clarity compared to the original PS4, and there will also be native 1080p enhanced modes from certain devs as well
I don't know how many times it has to be said, 1000, 1 million? What exactly do you want to hear?
There are multiple compilation threads detailing all of the games that we know about both in terms of 4K modes and pro patches in general. Do you want links to those to see for yourself what games are there?
I heard a staffer at the eb games I pre-ordered mine at tell a customer that it only works on 4K TVs and "you should therefore wait for the Scorpio".
Don't get crazy now.
It's an incredibly hard device to market well without sounding like your shitting on the current PS4. Doesn't help that a lot of the best features won't be visible on regular displays.
All over.Haha wow! Did you somehow forget the dozens of misinformation threads in the weeks post-Scorpio announcement or are you trolling?
Also, what's the misinformation on Pro 4K? There's some stuff we don't know yet, but misinformation? Where?
Inside Playstation 4 Pro: How sony made the first 4k games console
Yeah, but that's a super loaded asterisk you got there lol. It's basically saying
"*by all, we mean strictly some. Not even close to all. And "enhanced" means something completely different in every single case. Most cases we can't even show you the enhancements because you don't have a compatible HDR TV to see them. But trust us, the enhancements are great."
Hard to sell a marginal upgrade to an already popular product that has a significantly higher price.
All over.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297359
Does that look right to you? Is it a 4k games console? No. It's not.
Xbox One upscaled 720p to 1080p and everyone laughs that it's not 1080p. The Pro upscales to 4k and everyone bends over backwards to say it's really amazing anyway.
I'm excited for the Scorpio and NX and will get both day One. Pro seems like a massive waste of time for me so I will be keeping my day one PS4. I watched the reveal and I know what it is. A 4k streaming box with no 4k blu ray, upscaled 4k gaming using the power of "fuzzy rendering" or whatever buzz word Sony are using, a controller with another light bar. Whoop de du. It also looks like a massive cheeseburger. Just lackluster and unimpressive. Can't believe how Sony have so much momentum with the PS4 yet no one in England gives two shits about the Pro or VR.
All over.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297359
Does that look right to you? Is it a 4k games console? No. It's not.
Xbox One upscaled 720p to 1080p and everyone laughs that it's not 1080p. The Pro upscales to 4k and everyone bends over backwards to say it's really amazing anyway.
That's the main problem with this mid gen business for Sony.
The Xbox One isn't doing as well, so MS has more leeway in pushing the Scorpio as hard as they can. It's a much dicier proposition for Sony, who is the market leader and is FAR more dependent on PS4 sales. Thus they have to push the Pro without cannibalizing base PS4 sales too much.
A PS5 won't have this problem.
- Bound (Native 4K@60FPS)
- forma.8 (Native 4K@60FPS + 8xMSAA )
- Futuridium EP Deluxe (Native 4K@60FPS)
- Hustle Kings (Native 4K@60?FPS)
- Mantis Burn Racing (Native 4K@60FPS)
- Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor (Native 4K 80-90% of the time/Dynamic Resolution)
- NBA 2K17 (Native 4K@60FPS + HDR)
- Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 (Native 4K@60FPS)
- Rez Infinite (Native 4K@60FPS)
- Skyrim Special Edition (Native 4K@30FPS)
- Smite (Native 4K@60FPS)
- The Elder Scroll Online (Native 4K@30FPS with enhanced details over PS4 version)
- The Last Of Us Remastered (Native 4K@30FPS with the best shadows)
- Thumper (Native 4K@60FPS) Not sure about this one.
- Viking Squad (Native 4K@60FPS).
- VizionEck (Native 4K@60FPS)
- Wheels of Aurelia (Native 4K)
All over.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297359
Does that look right to you? Is it a 4k games console? No. It's not.
Xbox One upscaled 720p to 1080p and everyone laughs that it's not 1080p. The Pro upscales to 4k and everyone bends over backwards to say it's really amazing anyway.
How did Apple market/PR their S phone?
Did they show side by side comparison or just tell us how much % more powerful?
There was for example the report on Digital Foundry of the meeting with Mark Cerny. It mentions HDTV and PSVR support a few times, mostly but not exclusively it is about image quality due to downsampling - which people will continue deny having any impact until they see it with their own eyes. They will not be swayed by descriptions like this:Where are the examples?
But there also was mention that Mass Effect Andromeda joins the group of games with improved 1080p mode:But there was good news for owners of standard HDTVs too. Moire patterns and temporal shimmering disappear in Shadow of Mordor, giving a much cleaner presentation. Rise of the Tomb Raider's unimpressive, pixel-crawling AA solution gives way to a pristine, solid look. PS4 Pro works best with a 4K display, but there are genuine wins here for those with HDTVs
Mass Effect Andromeda has two very different strategies. They have checkerboard for 4K and they have a separate mode for high quality graphics at 1080p.
That's a bit more difficult to show. The quality improvements don't survive the level of compression usually applied to video streaming. I agree they missed the opportunity to provide high quality media but people act like they never even mentioned 1080p in context of the Pro, which simply isn't true.Niks said:Screens, videos, comparisons from multiple games?
All over.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297359
Does that look right to you? Is it a 4k games console? No. It's not.
Xbox One upscaled 720p to 1080p and everyone laughs that it's not 1080p. The Pro upscales to 4k and everyone bends over backwards to say it's really amazing anyway.
All over.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297359
Does that look right to you? Is it a 4k games console? No. It's not.
Xbox One upscaled 720p to 1080p and everyone laughs that it's not 1080p. The Pro upscales to 4k and everyone bends over backwards to say it's really amazing anyway.