No, this will probably be closed soon. Its getting too large and will start to become an annoyance to the servers.
There will probably be more news coming between now and E3 though.
PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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There will probably be more news coming between now and E3 though.
Lol.. Okay
I must have missed all the news sites reporting the rele,. Wait no I didn't. Not confirmed anywhere
They also have PSVR to promote.
And they know that many people would give precedence to a redesign to play games better compared to a VR headset.
Still this is just a rumor, there is enough evidence to say that a PS4 redesign/upgrade is in the works but the details like specs, price and release date are still to be considered a rumor in my opinion.
The fact that they're still deciding about upgrading CPU and that upgrade would add 100$ to the price doesn't make sense on a technical level for example, but this is from a retailer meeting.
They will probably have a huge reveal similar to ps4. Its own showcase focused simply on ps4k. They wont suck the air out of the room at e3 only to show upcoming games looking stale in comparison to what the ps4k can do.
Next year, everything at e3 will be ps4k stage demons as the new standard.
My guess?
E3 2016 same old but with nx reveal.
Once nx reveal is done and release date known, sony and MS will reveal closer to NX launch to steal momentum.
E3 2017 only ps4k stage demos. Ps4 wont be showcased only random comparison videos from the devs here and there
Next year, everything at e3 will be ps4k stage demons as the new standard.
My guess?
E3 2016 same old but with nx reveal.
Once nx reveal is done and release date known, sony and MS will reveal closer to NX launch to steal momentum.
E3 2017 only ps4k stage demos. Ps4 wont be showcased only random comparison videos from the devs here and there
That's exactly what I would expect if it is a major spec upgrade.
I would imagine that whatever they do for both the CPU/GPU could easily switch to a standard PS4 mode that's virtually identical to the software for games not updated to take advantage of the 4k.
mejin
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WiiU? XB1? It's okay with them? PS4 will still be around even with PS4K.
And few developers will have the money to make the jump.
Do it right and people will understand it.
THE:MILKMAN
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SneakyStephan covered what I think/believe but I could very well be wrong.
Zen I think I read will top out at 95W TDP for the top end i7 like part so a 3.0-4.0 Ghz 8 core?
A pure guess on my part would be that a semi-custom 4 core version at say 2.0 Ghz could come in at around the 30 watts you quote for Jaguar?
So, has anybody fiugred out how this rumor could possibly be true based on what Eurogamer said about it only being in the prototype stage? Or is it likely just that there's a super-strict NDA?
Also, everyone is sure of a $500 price point now? That's pretty dumb. Has any console ever really done well at $500?
Also, everyone is sure of a $500 price point now? That's pretty dumb. Has any console ever really done well at $500?
The games will look mostly the same besides resolution.
THE:MILKMAN
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My worry is that Sony went fishing for leaks and hooked OsirisBlack...
Not heard a peep from him for a week!
THE:MILKMAN
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Just spotted that and replied!
qa_engineer
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If you read his first post you'll see he was allowed to leak some of the information, which tells me he isn't a Sony employee.
Obliterator
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Didn't realize Osiris Black was claiming to be Tony Bartel or Paul Raines in that thread. That's pretty surprising news
Even if PS4K project exists, Sony won't announce this thing at E3 too soon. PGW more likely.
I didn't want to come out and say that (for the sake of not making a wrong conclusion) but that's what I also thought after reading that post.
THE:MILKMAN
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Allowed to leak? Could you link that?
Obliterator
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Who knows what he was trying to mean by that but he's neither of them so whatevs
Ah, okay. Hence why I didn't say it.
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Yeah, definitely a tough spot. Well, at least he'll be able to get Uncharted 4 for less than $60 if he does wait until after E3.
Obliterator
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I mean maybe he is claiming that but he isnt them.
OsirisBlack
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Obliterator
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No. That you are not.
Bitch Pudding
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Ah, that's marvelous.
THE:MILKMAN
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Whilst you are around Osiris, have you heard anything about NX considering it should launch in November/December this year when PS4K might not launch until Q1 17'?
OsirisBlack
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Only things that have already been posted in other threads here. I'm really more excited to see what Nintendo does especially how they handle the Zelda game.
THE:MILKMAN
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Damn Nintendo and their secrecy until the last possible minute! I'm just glad Sony doesn't seem to mind sharing info early.
Thanks for answering.
I'm really having trouble understanding how Sony can release a PS4.5 without splitting the user-base. While I'd like a PS4k, it seems to me like a PS4 slim is more likely. Except, a slim won't really benefit the PSVR...
If the user-base is in fact split, can developers accommodate for such a phenomenon? In other words, would developers be able to efficiently optimize their games on both the PS4 and the potential PS4K?
If the user-base is in fact split, can developers accommodate for such a phenomenon? In other words, would developers be able to efficiently optimize their games on both the PS4 and the potential PS4K?
THE:MILKMAN
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That's the $64,000 question. How will Sony handle this and explain it to the masses. It is by far the toughest thing to deal with I would think.
why would they bother
It's gonna be AMD x86 and GCN/Polaris just like PS4. It will likely run the same code as PS4, so no it is not inevitable that the user base will be split. Developers will more than likely continue to target PS4 and port upwards. People are really overstating the complexity of this.
Assuming the PS4 and PS4k use the same architecture, optimizing for one and optimizing for the other is the same thing in 99% of the cases.
Makes sense to me. But then why all the potential pushback from developers?
I would hope this is the case. Then the PS4K would make sense. Developers can target for the more popular PS4, and then do their best to optimize for the PS4K.
It's more work that they hardly benefit from
Aerocia
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All my feels considering I was one of those. :'(
The way I see it is, that developers are worried about the ps4 code not just running right off the bat smoothly on the ps4k. Even if all the hardware in the system is superior, different components could lead to different results for whatever reason. So even if they choose to not come out with a patch to optimize/take advantage of the ps4k hardware, they still need to do separate additional testing to make sure the game runs fine on ps4k even if it runs fine on a regular ps4.
And then there's the whole aspect of being left behind, other companies/competitors spending time and resources to make their games look & run even better on ps4k, which could force their hands at spending more money themselves, while not necessarily seeing returns in additional sales, but rather to maintain the status quo.
Basically they'd be spending more time & resources without getting much back in return.
That's where this rumor starts to fall off
Then they can simply choose to optimize for the PS4, with no added support on the PS4K. It's simply their choice in the end, no?
Mister Megative
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I see this thread is still going.
We still screaming about the death of Sony/PS4/consoles? Or have we accepted this won't negatively affect sales one bit?
We still screaming about the death of Sony/PS4/consoles? Or have we accepted this won't negatively affect sales one bit?
It'll be the publisher's choice, and first party studios will be forced to directly target the new PS4.
Or has anyone even bothered to consider digital foundry's analysis on this rumor?
Mister Megative
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I was just about to mention that. They're very reputable, with well/high placed sources. They made it very clear this thing is in the proto phase, with dev kits nowhere near being sent out and high-ranking Sony officials unaware of any of this. This directly contradicts what Osiris has posted: and falls more in line with what Gopher hinted at. THAT is what bears discussion IMO.
CloudyTuba
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Might have jumped the gun a little bit there.
We'll see how it pans out for you. Hopefully well.
Perhaps. But the option to choose would still be present.
Publishers would still choose if they want to put developers through that. Some may force it on developers, some may not.
I don't think alot of developers know the specs in detail. There's alot of different ways this can be handled, I think most developers are fearing the worse case scenario.
You sold your PS4 in anticipation of a rumored console that's not coming for at least 9 months, if it even actually happens. Uh... okay. That better have been near full price.
Kataploom
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What if they just forbid developers to release PS4k-only games and to focus on PS4 as main platform? That would be stupid not to do...
Then why even release the 4K ....
If the PS4 stays main platform nobody needs the PS4K
If the PS4K is the main platform every PS4 owner is pissed off.
It´s just bad no matter how you look at it.
If he doesn't plan on playing anything on the PS4 until the thing comes out, it isn't a terrible idea.