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[Bolts-n-Rays1109]

I just got kicked off PSN while playing The Show. Is it maintenance or is it another DDoS attack?

 

[TheJLC]

Why the fuck isn't anyone doing anything about this group? ffs

They have to be found first.

 

[icespide]

This is frustrating beyond all measure. I am sitting at home today, off of work, and can't do *anything* on my PS4. No Netflix, no online gaming, nothing. At least the first time made the papers, but this is just embarrassing for Sony to have it happen again within 48 hours.

you can't play singleplayer games?

 

[Curufinwe]

2011 part 2

Completely different situation.

 

[Fistwell]

Again? For realsies? o_o

 

[Dreamgazer]

This is frustrating beyond all measure. I am sitting at home today, off of work, and can't do *anything* on my PS4. No Netflix, no online gaming, nothing. At least the first time made the papers, but this is just embarrassing for Sony to have it happen again within 48 hours.

Netflix is fine for me.

 

[CambriaRising]

This is frustrating beyond all measure. I am sitting at home today, off of work, and can't do *anything* on my PS4. No Netflix, no online gaming, nothing. At least the first time made the papers, but this is just embarrassing for Sony to have it happen again within 48 hours.

Netflix still works while PSN is down.

 

[Zomba13]

There better damn well be a way to protect from DDoS, or we as online gamers and users of other services are at the mercy of a bunch of idiots who have all the time in the world to continue these kinds of stupid attacks.

The internet is like a pipe and we are like water flowing through it. Under normal use all if fine and dandy but when someone chooses to DDoS a service it's like them trying to force a big fat sock through the pipe. Unless you can let the water flow somewhere else it's going to get clogged. The bigger the pipe you have just means the bigger the sock they use. It's best to be like MS and have multiple pipes if you run a popular online service that is used by millions daily.

 

[Nibel]

2011 part 2

Not really; so far no private info has been compromised and with DDoS attacks this won't happen.

All these attacks do is annoy people around the world - while costing Sony some money in the process.

 

[catspit]

Maybe this is just maintenance

 

[todahawk]

I think its better to stop giving them attention. Thats what they want.

Agreed, but if the feds want more info I'd venture that would trump concerns over giving them a platform for attention.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

There better damn well be a way to protect from DDoS, or we as online gamers and users of other services are at the mercy of a bunch of idiots who have all the time in the world to continue these kinds of stupid attacks.

Then I have some bad news for you...

 

[Fistwell]

The internet is like a pipe and we are like water flowing through it. Under normal use all if fine and dandy but when someone chooses to DDoS a service it's like them trying to force a big fat sock through the pipe. Unless you can let the water flow somewhere else it's going to get clogged. The bigger the pipe you have just means the bigger the sock they use. It's best to be like MS and have multiple pipes if you run a popular online service that is used by millions daily.

Make socks illegal. Problem solved. You're welcome.

 

[Guymelef]

We can stay like this forever if they want...

 

[Bolts-n-Rays1109]

PlayStationVerified account
‏@PlayStation
Network update: our engineers are aware of the issues and are working to resolve. We'll keep you posted - sorry for the inconvenience

Well, I guess it's not maintenance...

 

[Petrae]

Maybe this is just maintenance

Nope.

Network update: our engineers are aware of the issues and are working to resolve. We'll keep you posted - sorry for the inconvenience

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/504271377327607809

EDIT: Beaten by a split second.

 

[BokehKing]

How long would it take Sony to create multiple pipes?

 

[Red_Kop]

Dude, these are DDoS attacks, no information has been compromised, if people are making unauthorized purchases on your account that's a personal issue. -_-

I know, what I'm saying is...Sony are very quick to put the blame on the user, it's in their T&S in black and white. Which is rich considering 2011 and the fact they can't even defend a DDoS attack. They probably have leaks and holes everywhere, and people just end up assuming it was their own fault. Sony won't own up unless it has too. My particular issue started 2 months ago.

 

[catspit]

Ugh. So it's going down all day again... Can't wait for this to happen on destiny release :/

 

[Nodnol]

How long would it take Sony to create multiple pipes?

It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of $$$.

 

[AusRoachman]

If this continues, this could seriously harm all of sonys goodwill. Regardless of the reasons people just see that xbox = working and playstation = not working. Having just transferred my destiny preorder from xbox to psn I will have no problem going back if this continues.

It amazes me that those responsible still havn't been caught. A lot of people ridiculed ms for touting the azure features (I.e the cloud) for the xbox but this could be one of the many benefits it provides, if it means networks are always up compared to sonys then it was a good call.

Having said that it's all fairly early on, but if it continues over weeks and especially if it hits destinys launch this could have huge repercussions for sony.

 

[Birgitte2004]

I'm not saying they can magically make it 100% effective, but I see nothing wrong with people complaining about it especially when Steam and XBL hardly ever go down for extended periods of time.

Do you use the same Steam I do?

Steam goes down by itself all the freaking time, it doesn't need outside help.

 

[Guymelef]

Ugh. So it's going down all day again... Can't wait for this to happen on destiny release :/

Yeah... Sony should be scared.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Agreed, but at the end of the day, on one system you can play online, and on another, you can't.

Of course this is way too early. But it is now the second day they are doing this. What happens when it moves to week 2?

Really, whats stopping them from continuing to do this indefinitely? They are trying to do it to xbox, and are not getting much success. Even I have a threshold. If I can't play my games online, I'll move to other platforms.

I can see the scenario when Destiny releases, and they just focus all their effort on PS4 and destroying the network. They clearly have that capability and Sony has no defense against it.

It sucks for sure, and I wish these guys were not getting the attention that they are getting (GAF is really not doing us any favours).

I just hope this doesn't encourage other hackers to join the bandwagon. If this keeps happening for a long time, Sony will lose goodwill fast. They definitely need to do something to stop this and that will involve lots of money. I assume they are already paying for Prolexic, but that probably won't be enough.

As a owner of both XB1 and PS4 I can simply switch to Microsoft if this shit continues.

 

[Sitrus]

Webstore down, but accessing on my Vita works perfectly fine. Can even download new games etc.

 

[Birgitte2004]

I know, what I'm saying is...Sony are very quick to put the blame on the user, it's in their T&S in black and white. Which is rich considering 2011 and the fact they can't even defend a DDoS attack. They probably have leaks and holes everywhere, and people just end up assuming it was their own fault. Sony won't own up unless it has too. My particular issue started 2 months ago.

You clearly have a beef with Sony that has nothing whatsoever to do with what's happening.

 

[icespide]

people worried about this happening during Destiny launch,

PSN is going to be down during the Destiny launch for other reasons

 

[Poodle Cannon]

Do you use the same Steam I do?

Steam goes down by itself all the freaking time, it doesn't need outside help.

Really? Steam seems to always be working for me. Hmm.

 

[Summer Haze]

I just turned on my PS4 to play some TLOU MP and it said it was "undergoing maintenance".

 

[Dragon]

If this continues, this could seriously harm all of sonys goodwill. Regardless of the reasons people just see that xbox = working and playstation = not working. Having just transferred my destiny preorder from xbox to psn I will have no problem going back if this continues.

It amazes me that those responsible still havn't been caught. A lot of people ridiculed ms for touting the azure features (I.e the cloud) for the xbox but this could be one of the many benefits it provides, if it means networks are always up compared to sonys then it was a good call.

Having said that it's all fairly early on, but if it continues over weeks and especially if it hits destinys launch this could have huge repercussions for sony.

People ridiculed MS for promising that the cloud would impact game performance, not network performance.

 

[BeEatNU]

Ugh this sucks. Since I'm in the IT field I know you can't just bust open different sites to host your online services due to infrastructure and such but still doesn't change the fact it sucks. DDOS is shitty, very few places can fight against it. Only really recourse multiple sites. If people hit all of the sites it would sill be down. Diablo 3 worked for me during last outage. Looks like I'm playing that today again

 

[serversurfer]

Funny that Xbox Live is still up and running. I guess Sony needs to call up MS and ask them for help.

"How do we get your fans to stop attacking us with the botnets your shitty security practices allowed them to create?"

 

[Grampasso]

This is frustrating beyond all measure. I am sitting at home today, off of work, and can't do *anything* on my PS4. No Netflix, no online gaming, nothing. At least the first time made the papers, but this is just embarrassing for Sony to have it happen again within 48 hours.

Not wanting to be harsh, but enjoy the "always on" future. One of the things I'll always hate is this. And you're also supposed to be for it, right?

 

[Geeun]

Not really; so far no private info has been compromised and with DDoS attacks this won't happen.

All these attacks do is annoy people around the world - while costing Sony some money in the process.

I know. It's just extremely frustrating

 

[Knightmarre]

Hearthstone down for maintenance due to DDoS attacks. Come on Blizzard what are you doing with all that WoW money.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Ugh this sucks. Since I'm in the IT field I know you can't just bust open different sites to host your online services due to infrastructure and such but still doesn't change the fact it sucks. DDOS is shitty, very few places can fight against it. Only really recourse multiple sites. If people hit all of the sites it would sill be down. Diablo 3 worked for me during last outage. Looks like I'm playing that today again

I hope you don't mean Hardcore on PC, because bnet been up and down like crazy also.

 

[Bolts-n-Rays1109]

I was just able to reconnect to PSN. Anybody else?

 

[Steroyd]

It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of $$$.

Surely it's both, I highly doubt XBL is what it is today because MS snapped their fingers one day.

 

[BoxManLocke]

Everyhting seems to be fine here in France. I'm downloading GTA 4 right now. Maybe it's because I'm on PS3.

 

[The Stig]

if this guy is based in USA, surely he'd have been found by now?

 

[Red_Kop]

You clearly have a beef with Sony that has nothing whatsoever to do with what's happening.

Has everything to do with what is happening in my opinion. Yes, I have an issue with Sony, I am down a considerable amount. In the last 2 months they have presented themselves to me as a bastion of invincibility security wise, and in the last 2 days, because of the DDoS attacks...this has been proven not true. Even if no data has been hacked, it is still a security and service issue that they have not been able to handle.

 

[Auto_aim1]

This is a good article if anyone wants to know how hackers hide their IP addresses and how law enforcement agencies try to catch them.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17302656

Basically, it's very difficult to catch these hackers because they use proxy and stuff such as "onion routing".

Like someone peeling an onion, each onion router removes a layer of encryption to uncover routing instructions, and sends the message to the next router where this is repeated. This prevents these intermediary nodes from knowing the origin, destination, and contents of the message.

 

[Night Angel]

Has everything to do with what is happening in my opinion. Yes, I have an issue with Sony, I am down a considerable amount. In the last 2 months they have presented themselves to me as a bastion of invincibility security wise, and in the last 2 days, because of the DDoS attacks...this has been proven not true. Even if no data has been hacked, it is still a security and service issue that they have not been able to handle.

Absolutely not. You're really grasping at straws, here.

 

[Toytown Assassin]

I was just able to reconnect to PSN. Anybody else?

yeah I got in but cant connect to EA to play BF4

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Unfortunately, this vulnerability could potentially hurt PS4 sales if Xbox Live's ability to stave off these attacks is proven. Amazing timing given all the PR MIcrosoft has been investing in over the last few weeks about having the best multiplayer. I am in no way suggesting they are related, but it could be a hearts and minds victory for MS if PSN keeps getting taken down by these attacks (especially on big release days like today).

 

[Dragon]

Has everything to do with what is happening in my opinion. Yes, I have an issue with Sony, I am down a considerable amount. In the last 2 months they have presented themselves to me as a bastion of invincibility security wise, and in the last 2 days, because of the DDoS attacks...this has been proven not true. Even if no data has been hacked, it is still a security and service issue that they have not been able to handle.

Where did they do this?

 

[BeEatNU]

I hope you don't mean Hardcore on PC, because bnet been up and down like crazy also.

what? I am talking about PS4.
during the outage sunday, I was playing Diablo 3 fine. No issues.

also for those who don't know Azure is just a virtual machine "cloud" farm.
MS can easily spin up virtual machines that handle XBL processes. Thinking on it Sony could mimic something similar.

Has everything to do with what is happening in my opinion. Yes, I have an issue with Sony, I am down a considerable amount. In the last 2 months they have presented themselves to me as a bastion of invincibility security wise, and in the last 2 days, because of the DDoS attacks...this has been proven not true. Even if no data has been hacked, it is still a security and service issue that they have not been able to handle.

I would say you are wrong here, like many people and I have said.
It's very hard to stop a DDOS attack, your only saving grace is multiple sites and that's if the DDOS party does not know the other IPs.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Really? Steam seems to always be working for me. Hmm.

Steam only let's me log in when it feels like it. Google the issue and you will find it's been happening for years and zero progress has been made. In fact it seems to be progressively getting worse for me. Submit a ticket and they'll do as good as nothing for you.

Edit: I also haven't been able to view the store page for half a year and have to make my purchases off the mobile app instead, which coincidentally works fine.

 

[Pillville]

You clearly have a beef with Sony that has nothing whatsoever to do with what's happening.

Why do people not have the right to complain about Sony right now?

At this point, it doesn't matter how the network went down (hack, DDOS, bugs, etc...) point is, it's down again. And the competitor's network has been up the whole time.

I was going to buy Destiny for PS4 day 1, now there's no way I'm going to do that.

 

[Handy Fake]

Has everything to do with what is happening in my opinion. Yes, I have an issue with Sony, I am down a considerable amount. In the last 2 months they have presented themselves to me as a bastion of invincibility security wise, and in the last 2 days, because of the DDoS attacks...this has been proven not true. Even if no data has been hacked, it is still a security and service issue that they have not been able to handle.

Your rage is making you incoherent.