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PSN Hack Update: FAQs in OP, Read before posting
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Metalmurphy
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Kyoufu said:
I think it's pretty funny all that "anecdotal shit" started happening after Sony confirmed what happened, even though the data was stolen more then a week before.
MurkyZebra2417
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That's what I said a few pages back, even IF the CC info was stolen, it is HIGHLY unlikely they get used so early. You need to filter the data, then sell it. Selling the data so near to the hack would be pretty dangerous for the hackers.Kyoufu said:
MoneyLaunderer
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lennylightspeed said:
$200 at a Walgreen's? Wow. Hackers shop at Walgreen's. Forget a big screen TV or stereo system. 2011 hackers spend $200 on batteries, Tag body spray, and People Magazine...
JetBlackPanda
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the amount of people that are noticing fraud charges on there cards is to frequent to be a coincidence. I have had my bank and card for 10 years and never had a single fraud charge, well guess what happened yesterday?
Combichristoffersen
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FINALBOSS said:
IonicSnake said:
http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=2356
I just read the faq. and fair enough to all their responses.
JetBlackPanda said:
I still think it's coincidence.
How often do people share on this forum, or in general, that someone stole their CC info to buy shit? Never.
It just looks like a lot because there's been a few people mentioning it in this thread.
It reminds me of the 360 failure rate thing--people thought it was massive because of the sheer number of people who came posting about it.
JetBlackPanda
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Jburton said:
Could be but damn if it doesn't look fishy..
Alx
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FINALBOSS said:
Or maybe it's not coincidental, and the risk of CC data being compromised turned out to be true ? How can you rule out the possibility, especially when even Sony can't guarantee that everything is safe ?
FINALBOSS said:
It's funny, because in the original thread, other people claimed that since we hadn't heard of any fraud attempt, it meant that the CC info couldn't have leaked. So maybe there's no real consensus about when is the best time to use stolen data (maybe even among thieves ?).
Anyway if you think that the thief is supposed to wait before using his stolen info, I can't see how it could comfort you that everything is ok right now. The possibility is still there.
Mr. Luchador
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Vamphuntr said:
Never knew that!
Throwaway123456789
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A large newspaper here in Norway is reporting several people have had suspicious usage of their cradit/debit cards from PSN the last few days. There is a screenshot showing one transaction taking place yesterday for 100NOK (around $20), and another has had 11 transactions in the space of three days. Several more are complaining about the same in the comments field.
hey_it's_that_dog said:
There...you said it yourself...so until it can be proved that it really has hurt ppl directly and not someone trying to make quick bucks, lets lay off these suits for now
and whats up with the bafflement over my statement that Sony has entertained the gamers for years and helped in creating some of the most fantastic games and gaming hardware? And that I don't want them to die because of these lawsuits as it would hurt the gaming industry with possibly more layoffs and us gamers getting less content..wtf over the sarcasm? unless you are one of the blind xbots or nintedo supporter who just wants Sony to burn in hell, why would you as a gamer want Sony to suffer? Sony is already paying the price and will be for sometime to come.
hey_it's_that_dog
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FINALBOSS said:
Finding no evidence doesn't mean a thing definitely didn't happen. It could mean they have insufficient information at this time. By putting yourself way over in the "nothing to worry about at all" corner, you're setting yourself up to be very wrong in a way that could harm you. Might as well take a more moderate position and be slightly worried.
Grinchy said:
Or they could... you know... work on firmware updates that prevent the hacks. Sueing GeoHotz isn't going to magically make the hacks disappear. If you already hacked your PS3 there is nothing Sony can do to reverse that except try to get you to install a firmware update.
MoneyLaunderer said:
Hackers don't usually use the numbers themselves, they sell the stolen numbers and someone else uses them. Often they make small insignificant purchases to confirm the card works.
hey_it's_that_dog
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A.R.K said:
The suits filed prematurely will fail and will not destroy Sony. You're making a lot of assumptions about how damaging this could be for them.
Yes, you're right that Sony does a lot of good and no one should want them out of the industry for this reason. You just sounded a little crazy the way you said it.
TacticalFox88
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And people were laughing when i said this would go down as the biggest clusterfuck of the generation. SMH
get2sammyb
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So, now the storm has "passed" a bit, what do we think the realistic longterm consequences for PlayStation are now?
aristotle said:
Interesting point from the WSJ:
"Sonys security
Questions do have to be asked about Sonys security procedures, not simply with regard to how the hack was conducted, but how they store information. The admission that passwords and credit card information have been compromised, suggests that the company may not have been following industry-accepted procedures.
Password information should never be stored in an unencrypted format. Programming languages include readily-available techniques for one-way encryption of data. To mitigate against reverse look-up tables (that take the encrypted form and allow programmers to extract the password), stored passwords should be combined with another string (known as the salt) and the whole string encoded making them impossible to reverse engineer.
If credit card information has been compromised, then questions would need to be asked of Sony if it was following the agreed industry standards on merchants storing of credit card information. The Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI-DSS) are a detailed set of requirements as to what credit card information can be stored, and how."
SolidSnakex
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Kagari said:
He should get a response about how things will be handled once it goes back online. Will they do a mass reset and email everyone a new password or will it just be up to us to change our password?
notworksafe said:
I have 4 active accounts as of today. 2 US as my main accounts, 1 Euro, and 1 Japan. The rest were old dummy accounts some of which I forgot the passwords to after having my previous PS3's stolen, and some were old handles that I just didn't want anymore. That's over the course of 4 years and 6 PS3's.
Rebel Leader
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TacticalFox88 said:
I was skeptical. So I didn't laugh nor did I take it every seriously at first. If I did, it was minimal.
hey_it's_that_dog
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TacticalFox88 said:
And you somehow have confirmation that you were right?
dreamer3kx
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Just received the email but its in Japanese, wtf?
Freyjadour
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Jburton said:
I don't think you understand how this works.
Hacker hacks system for enjoyment. Obviously talented to do so. Company recognizes it, and rather than apprehend them for it, offers employment. Talent now works for them rather than against. There are plenty of famous cases of this occurring.
They don't go out and do these things to hold a knife to anyone's throat for employment, they do it because they find it to be fun.
I honestly wouldn't go through with changing credit card #'s or the like unless you have some sort of activity going on there. At the most, if you're honestly worried, I recommend:
(stated before, but directly from the site)
Again, I honestly don't think we're at that point of this even being needed to be done, but apparently some people live off the grid and the PSN is the only place they've ever provided their real info....
(stated before, but directly from the site)
Again, I honestly don't think we're at that point of this even being needed to be done, but apparently some people live off the grid and the PSN is the only place they've ever provided their real info....
TacticalFox88
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Not that it satisfies me, but damn. It's just hard to believe it would go THIS far.hey_it's_that_dog said:
The_Darkest_Red
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There are a lot of illegal things that people find to be fun, it doesn't mean they should be rewarded for it with a job.Freyjadour said:
So, I'm not saying the PSN breach isn't a big deal, but...
Last night I was talking to some game journalist friends at a bar, and they said they're under enormous pressure to push out as many PSN stories as possible. Apparently the PSN breach is a major traffic driver at the moment, so they want as many stories as possible about it.
I'm of the opinion that this kind of thing helps inflate the perception of the severity of the situation, similar to how endless repetition of a story on the 24-hour news networks can distort things.
Last night I was talking to some game journalist friends at a bar, and they said they're under enormous pressure to push out as many PSN stories as possible. Apparently the PSN breach is a major traffic driver at the moment, so they want as many stories as possible about it.
I'm of the opinion that this kind of thing helps inflate the perception of the severity of the situation, similar to how endless repetition of a story on the 24-hour news networks can distort things.
RustyNails
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FF 13 Versus date will finally be revealed and PSN story will be a long gone daddy.Kagari said:
Sony should also reveal Agent in the form of gameplay trailer as a counter weight to negative hysteria.
Zoe said:
Was about to post this. Here is the patent
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6981918
There is one for cross game voice chat too but I don't remember the name under which it is filed.
get2sammyb
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Kagari said:
To be honest, I hope so. I'm as pissed as everybody else about what's happened, but I am also a huge fan of the brand and have been for many years. Beneath all the rage and disappointment at the fact that an event like this even ocurred, I'm ravaged with sadness. This really was supposed to be the year of the PlayStation. Regardless of sales, they had (and still have) one of the most impressive first-party line-ups of all times this year.
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