JackFrost2012
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Matlock said:
Didn't you get the graph?
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PSP sales sluggish?
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Didn't you get the graph?
I'm thinking newly annointed psp fanboys occupy the center. They've been ragging on ds for montsh now, defend any and everything sony does , and now play double standards when it comes to these kinds of threads. God only knows how different this thread would be if it were "DS sales sluggish".
Kobun Heat
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JackFrost2012 said:
mashoutposse
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jetsetmario said:
Yep, couldn't convince everyone in 48 hours with nonexistant advertising and no in-store demos, it's curtains for SCE and the PSP.
Come on now.
soundwave05
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bionic77 said:
:lol
Well I'd say 1996 more accurately. '95 was a good year for Nintendo aside from the Virtual Boy which everyone forgot about in 2 weeks.
jetsetmario
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mashoutposse said:
I think you just restated my point. Thank you.
I think ultimately the PSP will be fine. Its just that at this moment the poor retail showing of the PSP has many people, be it Sony fanboys or Sony Execs, eating crow.
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So now we can blame Nintendo on not only Republicans but also Kyle Orland? Awesome.
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the genius (jack and kobun, I love you guys)
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Bra-vo.
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So now we can blame Nintendo on not only Republicans but also Kyle Orland? Awesome.
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Bra-vo.
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jetsetmario
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AniHawk said:
Of course we all have agendas. My personal agenda is to make people who bought into the hype train and layed down 250 some odd dollars on a PSP to squirm a little. If you are one of the people that bought a PSP and are having a blast with it than more power to you. However, if you are one of those people that bought one to sell on ebay or bought one because you are some sick twisted individual who just has to buy pricey, exorbinant objects to make up for obvious defects in your humanity than I hope you feel like a supreme chump right about now.
MetalAlien
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It's juat a price thing, everyone I've shown the PSP to wants one badly, until they find out what it costs. As the price comes down the fever will spread.
jetsetmario said:
Good god, all I'm saying is that this evidence is hardly worth getting worked up over, because some will just jump in because they hate or like the system no matter what.
I replied to you because you were using it as some sort of superaccurate measurement. It ain't.
Alex
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What, you mean rural Wal-marts and other department stores aren't clearing stock on day one? Big fucking shock, they didn't on past launches of anything either, shit I was able to hit Wal-mart after work the day of my PS2 launch and easily nab one. The GBA was hot as shit, and sold like mad, and the Best Buy here, where I purchased mine, had STACKS of them.
Both will do fine, neither a Nintendo handheld or an original Playstation brand product is going to tank. It's also the first time we've had any real competition in the handheld arena, and both are vastly different, so please stop wishing doom on either.
PS: You're all fucking babies.
Both will do fine, neither a Nintendo handheld or an original Playstation brand product is going to tank. It's also the first time we've had any real competition in the handheld arena, and both are vastly different, so please stop wishing doom on either.
PS: You're all fucking babies.
TekunoRobby
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Kobun and Jack just elevated this thread from "horrible fanboy masturbation" to funny with two posts!
My Target had 32 PSP systems left tonight! Oh no!
But then I've never seen a portable/console sell out here except the PS2. I could find a DS in stock from day one.
Sony needs to get some demo kiosks out ASAP. Yes it will be an expensive unit that will get destroyed but people need to see the PSP in action first hand.
But then I've never seen a portable/console sell out here except the PS2. I could find a DS in stock from day one.
Sony needs to get some demo kiosks out ASAP. Yes it will be an expensive unit that will get destroyed but people need to see the PSP in action first hand.
TekunoRobby
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Yes I know this doesn't count but I was told by a Best Buy rep that sony handed every store a demo unit for someone to go walking around and show off the PSP.Mrbob said:
Is this true? I don't know but atleast it somewhat qualifies as a kiosk unit, somewhat.
jetsetmario
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TekunoRobby said:
Not true by any stretch of the imagination. We were told by our rep not to expect one until juneish as they were working on a more durable unit for display purposes.
TekunoRobby
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Not suprised actually. I gave him a puzzled look but he swore that was the truth.jetsetmario said:
Maybe the local Sony rep saw fit to equip the most popular Best Buy's with a demo unit?
EDIT: Yeah ha ha, I saw a poor EB rep (the only one who bought a PSP) that was forced to bring in his PSP to show the customers. Damn I felt bad for that guy.
jetsetmario
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TekunoRobby said:
What's funny is that the people at my store that bought one have been so eager to show it off to everyone that they have brought theirs to work to walk around with. Suckers. Their screens already had scratches by the end of the night.
WrathOfOtaibah
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:lol @ those that claim that PSPs are selling sluggishly because there's no advertisements. Everyone and their fucking dog knew PSP was coming out. So the whole "It didn't sell because Sony didn't advertise" doesn't fly. Here's the actual reason, brace yourself:
ITS TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE
When Sony is claiming it will sell a million at the end of the day, when analysts think the PSP is the greatest thing since sliced bread and will sell as much. Then when everyone who talk to is talking about how awesome the PSP will be (never mind if they are gamers or not), you kind of expect it to do more than sell just a handful of units in a couple of days.
Like someone said, if this was the DS, people would be having a field day. When its the PSP, the excuse train keeps on chugging.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had this happen to them. I think their hardcore PSP pimping will drive away more customers than attract. GameStop and Sam Goody lost potential sales with me and their DVDs for example.
When all is said and done, I think 150,000 - 200,000 PSPs have been sold so far in the US if even that. So much for my 775,000 prediction.
Sony fans are having a slice of humble pie. Its a great thing to search for Sony fans foaming at the mouth at how bad PSP will beat the DS because of Japanese sales and how every sales dip for DS was victory for Sony. Now Sony isn't doing so hot and they can't take it or make sarcastic comments, trying to put up a front.
ITS TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE
When Sony is claiming it will sell a million at the end of the day, when analysts think the PSP is the greatest thing since sliced bread and will sell as much. Then when everyone who talk to is talking about how awesome the PSP will be (never mind if they are gamers or not), you kind of expect it to do more than sell just a handful of units in a couple of days.
Like someone said, if this was the DS, people would be having a field day. When its the PSP, the excuse train keeps on chugging.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had this happen to them. I think their hardcore PSP pimping will drive away more customers than attract. GameStop and Sam Goody lost potential sales with me and their DVDs for example.
When all is said and done, I think 150,000 - 200,000 PSPs have been sold so far in the US if even that. So much for my 775,000 prediction.
Sony fans are having a slice of humble pie. Its a great thing to search for Sony fans foaming at the mouth at how bad PSP will beat the DS because of Japanese sales and how every sales dip for DS was victory for Sony. Now Sony isn't doing so hot and they can't take it or make sarcastic comments, trying to put up a front.
The Experiment: There's no one who wants Nintendo to thwart Sony's handheld more than me, but even I have to disagree with a ~200K prediction.
If the PSP is just "too fucking expensive", then you're assuming that 800,000 gamers see it as a worthwhile product, but won't make the jump because of price. These gamers certainly had no problem snatching up the PS2 and Xbox at this price.
It's all about the perception of value. If Sony has gotten across the point that the consumer will find $250 worth of value through the use of a current generation handheld (worth the price of a PS2, at most) and a media player (the other $100), the PSP will sell. Maybe not a million in March, but it will sell. That's the deciding factor, whether Sony has gotten its message across.
If the PSP is just "too fucking expensive", then you're assuming that 800,000 gamers see it as a worthwhile product, but won't make the jump because of price. These gamers certainly had no problem snatching up the PS2 and Xbox at this price.
It's all about the perception of value. If Sony has gotten across the point that the consumer will find $250 worth of value through the use of a current generation handheld (worth the price of a PS2, at most) and a media player (the other $100), the PSP will sell. Maybe not a million in March, but it will sell. That's the deciding factor, whether Sony has gotten its message across.
gamergirly
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-jinx- said:
"It wasnt plan to sell out on launch day". OKAY. That's understandable. Now, it's the day after launch. Sales are just as identical to the previous day. What's the response? "It's been 2 f---ing days".
What happens if it's not sold out everywhere over the rest of the weekend? "It's only been a weekend for Christ's Sake!" That excuse is getting old.
PSP commercials ARe running now(I hadnt seen one before Thursday late evening) on 2 primetime channels that I've seen thus far: MTV and Fox. Ads are EVERYWHERE. There's not a gaming retailer that sells the sucker that doesnt have posters out or people with units to let you see them or use them yourself.
But not all the advertisements, kiosks, or demos in the world is going to offset what's "really" turning customers off: the price. That's de factor. That's the bottom line.
JackFrost2012
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oh for fuck's sake
WrathOfOtaibah
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Yeah but considering the Sony Hype Machine (patent pending) was damn near on full blast for this machine, its performance has been slow. Its not like its one of those, "What the fuck are those?" things, people knew about it...and chose not to get it. Its not like next week, people will say, "Oh snap, time to get a PSP now" and hundreds of thousands rush the stores like teenage girls at an *Nsync concert.
Maybe I am too rough on it. Maybe this weekend, sales will pick up. You never know with those Friday paychecks. I want one for Ridge Racer and Darkstalkers but I know I'm just going to regret it now. They look beautiful.
I don't want it thwarted. I'm just saying I don't think anymore than 200,000 units have sold yet. If it was much more than that, then it wouldn't be so easy to go to any store that sells electronics and snag one up. I can go right out now to GameStop, Best Buy, Walmart, Target and K-Mart (I'm assuming) and grab one. The demand just isn't there but the supply is. By the end of the month, maybe half a million. Probably by late April/early May, it will break a million.
Yeah but people see it as a gaming unit first, MP3 player and video player second. Maybe Sony should try the media approach to it? The easily scratchable screen is a big factor for me. If I want to use it as an MP3 player, it will be in my pocket and that might mean scratching. I'd like to watch an episode of The Shield. Its a fine machine and I want to get one, its just the damn price. I think many gamers are with me on this one. Maybe I'll get a Japanese unit when the price drops, which will probably be sometime at the end of this year. Maybe $150-160.
Guy LeDouche
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what the fuck are you talking about? TV commercials started airing only days before launch and recieved no where near the same hype PS2 got.The Experiment said:
captmcblack
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You people are all goddamn crazy to be discussing this so intently on only the second day of existence, but I'll say this:
I want someone to make a PSP TV/radio tuner. Then, you could have one device that replaces almost everything. It'd be wonderful.
...that is all.
I want someone to make a PSP TV/radio tuner. Then, you could have one device that replaces almost everything. It'd be wonderful.
...that is all.
Slow compared to what? And what data do you have to back up your claim?The Experiment said:
And, while I'm the subject of unsubstantiated statements, how do you justify that the "Sony Hype Machine...was damn near on full blast" when many people are commenting on the LACK of marketing for PSP so far? I can think of a lot more things that would be required for "full blast" -- you know, say, kiosk machines, or television ads before the system actually launched, or Catzgirl dressed up like a giant PSP...or whatever that "street team" stuff is supposed to include.
AniHawk said:
I know, I know... they want you to pre-order everything. Fuck, they'd try to get you to pre-order the air you breathe, if they could somehow manage that. As others have mentioned, though, in my experience they've been particulary rabid and excessive with the PSP, moreso than their other typical bullshit.
captmcblack
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Haven't they had PSP ads in things like Coke cases/cans, snack foods and in movie theaters since like...last year?
I know the current ad campaign basically started this week, but the PSP has been advertised a lot - even by proxy in things mentioning the DS or Nintendo - for a while, right?
I know the current ad campaign basically started this week, but the PSP has been advertised a lot - even by proxy in things mentioning the DS or Nintendo - for a while, right?
WrathOfOtaibah
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The Sony Hype Machine has nothing to do with TV commercials. It has everything to do with word of mouth. Everyone knew about the PSP. Commercials weren't needed. People who barely play games (other than Madden and GTA) went up to me a week before it came out that they just heard that this awesome new PlayStation portable was coming out. My roommate who hates games thought PSP looked cool - about two weeks before it came out.
Sorry, acting bewildered that nobody knew jack shit about PSP won't work with me. DS? Possibly. Not PSP though.
I have no data, just my own eyes and they're pretty damn important to me. You have no claims that its doing well either. Yet IGN is running stories about sales are less than expected. Hmm...maybe I was on to something. Maybe hundreds of thousands of PSPs are being sold in discreet locations in the US, oblivious to those who are aware. Maybe in the backwoods of Montana, all the Revolutionists are buying PSPs by the dozens.
Sony Hype Machine (patent pending) is 75% word of mouth, 25% jabbering journalists who couldn't stop talking about it (Newsweek for example). It has 0 to do with ads. Sony didn't need to run them. Even if they ran them, I doubt it would make a difference. People knew it was out. Apparently 40-something lawyers knew about it from what someone said earlier.
It'll probably slow down after the 1st when they can't do anything about it for their annual sales. I think its just managers wanting to reduce losses as much as they can. I can't blame them, even they thought the PSP was going to be a smash hit.
NR1 said:
I just got back from work, and here is the dirt:
The Rockwall, Texas Target store received 60 units on Thursday, and has since then sold 10 units. During my shift, one of those 10 units was returned, thus placing the total number sold at a sickening 9 units in the past 48 hours. :lol
For comparison, the same Target had around 25 DS units on launch in November and sold out within hours. Granted, March is no November in terms of retail sales, but this is still quite bad.
I don't know how it's doing overall, but there was a huge pile of them at Wal-Mart tonight when I braved the stink for some other stuff. I also overheard a 40-something father say, "We're not buying him that. Look at the games. They're the same damn things he already has!"
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Ok, here's another story. A friend of mine picked up his PSP at the EB in West Hollywood Gateway on launch day. He was in a queue and there was a queue at the Best Buy too. Once the Best Buy queue cleared, they started telling the people on the EB queue that they were clear of a queue and still had units, trying to steal customers. Someone in the queue also mentioned that the Target upstairs had like 60 units left and no queue. Seeing how the story is the same everywhere, this doesn't look very pretty for us PSP supporters. 
Oh and regarding my earlier post about a friend working in retail who only sold 5 PSPs, that was a Hastings.
Oh and regarding my earlier post about a friend working in retail who only sold 5 PSPs, that was a Hastings.
disabledHeliocentric
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Maybe Sony made a huge miscalculation. The price is more than a parent usually spends on their kid. The parent will buy their kid the console. The kid also gets the gameboy because it's a lot cheaper and it keeps the kid quiet in the back seat. But I suspect the kid isn't going to get this.
Well then what about the adult? The adult has more than one television. He has his console. He might have a second one. He looks at the PSP and it looks really sexy and all but why get that when he already has the console. Oh wow, wipeout? A puzzle game? lol.
He just doesn't see the time or place to whip this out when he couldn't just as easily use his console.
Well then what about the adult? The adult has more than one television. He has his console. He might have a second one. He looks at the PSP and it looks really sexy and all but why get that when he already has the console. Oh wow, wipeout? A puzzle game? lol.
He just doesn't see the time or place to whip this out when he couldn't just as easily use his console.
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