PUA coaches sexual assault, spawns twitter campaign (disturbing imagery)

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Whenever I hear the term pick up artist I'm reminded of this great tweet by @ceejoyner

"Pick up artists and garbage men should switch names."
 
RSD Tyler/Owen (owner of RSD) makes a "statement":

Hey I thought I'd mention.... we're not NOT responding. :)

There's just nobody who wants any real dialogue. I'd happily meet with anyone who genuinely wants to talk.

I think Julien's video was absolutely stupid. It was totally out of context and he posted it to get shock, not realizing the full outcome. I'm sorry about the video. I would have taken it down if I'd seen it, but don't monitor all social media postings.

I watched Julien's entire Free Tour from that event today, and he talks about not degrading women and how he's just kidding around. The full infield clips have the girls laughing and asking him to kiss them and things like that. He deliberately left this out of the video to make it inflammatory. Again I don't approve that behaviour and frankly neither does he, he was an idiot to post that.

The only thing I see are people deliberately taking things out of context from here on out. I see fake twitter accounts claiming to be Julien, or videos from me with sarcasm that are cut to say insane things I'm not saying, and that have context when you watch the whole thing. They know they're doing this and think it's funny, so there's not a lot of dialogue to be had.

So I'm not NOT talking... it's just that there's nobody to talk to. :) I've apologized in other threads and condemned the behaviour. From there it is what it is.

All I care about is my ability to do good in the world. RSD has been a cool vehicle to do that. If it isn't a viable vehicle anymore, I'll continue to do good. The people who watch our stuff honestly have no idea what it's like to be a shy guy trying to learn to meet girls, or the pain it causes. They have no context for why we teach guys what we teach, after years of trying different things to see what works.

It doesn't matter. I'll always do amazing work and make the world better. As long as I can do that, I'm happy. The vehicle is just a temporary form that has to be discarded like anything else, whether tomorrow or in 50 years. As long as I'm alive I'll keep finding new vehicles to do good things.

It seems like SJW's cause a lot of trouble for good men as well as bad. I think it's important people find out about them. I think the mainstream media does a lot of messed up things as well. I've honestly felt guilty for not addressing these issues for a while now, but was too busy teaching "pick up" which I'm sure people sensed I did more out of obligation to the community that helped me, than it being my main focus.

So regardless of what happens, I'll continue to do good. I've spent days working on RSD related stuff, no different than before. I personally expect RSD to be fine. My life is basically the same as it ever was, not really different. I've been planning on building something new for a long time, and have a lot of things in the works with it even before this, so if it's not fine I'll do other things.

I'll keep working on my usual projects, and if there's someone who honestly wants to talk about RSD I'll do it with them, but until that happens it's not that I'm NOT responding or ignoring, it's that there's not really anyone who wants to understand what we do.

Again sorry for the video. We don't condone it. Julien himself doesn't, and was an idiot trying to be inflammatory for posting it. He didn't teach that at the proper event, he clarified it there, but he cut it to look otherwise for shock which was stupid. All is good, we'll just keep doing what we're doing and have fun. :)

Don't waste more time on this. How much time has it wasted already? It'll have a hangover to it. :) Focus on doing good things for yourself and others, and value the time that you have.

Don't talk trash on the people creating headaches. That's getting steeped in the same energy that consumes them. Stay positive and if you feel like explaining that's fine, but always stay positive and smart.

That's all I can really say about it.

I've got a cool video uploading now btw which I shot 3 months ago. It'll be on click baiting and a nice posting for this week. Check it out and you will enjoy.

Tyler

P.S. After letting it cover most of the forum for a while, from here on out keep discussions about it to this thread. Although frankly I don't recommend spending your time with it.

P.P.S. This is great, listen for sure.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=11831178&ex_cid=espnapi_public
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so "its not the real him , some fake accounts, it's not what he teaches, just for shock value, SJW need to be exposed.... "

this is almost : Actually, it's about ethics in game mysognism
 
jesu said:
No visa for him

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30119100
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Yeah, just saw this on the news last night. Read the OP - what the actual fuck. On top of all of the suggestions of domestic abuse in that sort of "diagram", one of them is *abuse pets*? Like how has this guy not already been arrested/locked up for intent?

The idea that anyone against him is a "feminazi" is fucking laughable, at this point anyone against him is a normal human being!
 
Darklord said:
What the fuck....
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It is not so cut and dried.

Imagine she is a lemon pie. And you love eating lemon pie. Then you got a living lemon pie who goes to the waltz with you. Then he follows you to your home. Then it decides to isolate itself with you. How does she not expect you not to eat it?
Of course women would object to this by saying they "are not food/objects". But she is the object of desire so the analogy is perfectly valid.

So, this girl is super retarded, but the guy managed her retardation very poorly too.
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I don't even
 
freenudemacusers said:
what i learn from julien was the basic structure of pick up and afterwards getting massive mometum and immersed myself in it. i have never or rarely did cold approach. Talking to strangers scared the fuck out of me. On both the bootcamp i was able to pull but i was able to cum on a girls tits in alex bootcamp.

Julien the attractive asshole. ( when i mean attractive is not that he is good looking ) but he help me alot with attraction and hooking , brought te asshole side of me.. I can attract girls with the vibe of the 4 pillars . PIMP is a good product for new guys. help u step by step in the interaction. He is good at getting girls attention and keeping them. the girls get hook massive ATTRACTION . If u wanna be SUPER pick up man i would go for JUlIEN all the way. If you have masive social anxiety go for juien bootcamp he will break you and give u massive momentum .

But i just recently finish an alex bootcamp. for me its totally opposite of juliens game. . Alex natural method is being social , be safe and normal and have fun. Unless julien where you have to keep the girls attention. Alex is get the girls attention and if she wonders off its ok. As long as you get them ate front door. FDR. also just approach 4x while julien is the infinity rule meaning if you get blown out you keep reappraoching FOREVER unless he or another instructor points u to another girl. quote from julien ( i won't suck your dick , she is)

I was a massive julien fan, but now i am more into the natural instict. Alex's method is more realistic for me. Its the game i havebeen looking for and i now i am internalizing i am enough method Alex bootcamp and concept are realistic , though his videos sometime you may not understand but his GAME works. If i ever get a plateu i will take an Alex bootcamp again. PS , myles , frank , gio and valentino were great wings and helped me a lot. Fun thing about bootcamp is meeting cool guys like them
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What is it with these methods and boot camps? Serious question, while I've gone through my awkward and embarrassing moments, finding someone to talk to/hang out isn't the hardest thing in the world. It just seems like these attempts are seeing women as objects to fuck and conquer.
 
That chart on the OT is almost exactly the type of behavior my best friend's boyfriend exhibited toward her.

He murdered her in September.
 
What do these guys charge for attending their talks? I know two people who swear by this shit. Of course they both lack confidence and are virgins at 23, but they swear by the button combos they are taught and use all of this crazy lingo. I love coming into work and having them pass on these golden nuggets of wisdom to me.
 
Exr said:
What do these guys charge for attending their talks? I know two people who swear by this shit. Of course they both lack confidence and are virgins at 23, but they swear by the button combos they are taught and use all of this crazy lingo. I love coming into work and having them pass on these golden nuggets of wisdom to me.
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Priceless.
 
MBison said:
That chart on the OT is almost exactly the type of behavior my best friend's boyfriend exhibited toward her.

He murdered her in September.
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Damn :( Sorry to hear that. I hope the guy gets what he deserves.

Exr said:
What do these guys charge for attending their talks? I know two people who swear by this shit. Of course they both lack confidence and are virgins at 23, but they swear by the button combos they are taught and use all of this crazy lingo. I love coming into work and having them pass on these golden nuggets of wisdom to me.
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I think this guy charges 3000 per person per seminar? Crazy rates. With that amount of money you could get a nice haircut, learn how to style that haircut and get a few sets of good looking outfits and still have money left to bring a woman to a nice date.
 
You know, given a choice between never having sex again, and being that guy (especially after reading that horrific chart)... yeah, I'd be giving up on sex.

Utter scumbag. Total and utter cunt.
 
fertygo said:
What chart?
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This one I guess
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