cpp_is_king
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Just to narrow it down a bit further, do the dragons first, then the other stuff.
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Just to narrow it down a bit further, do the dragons first, then the other stuff.
I'm getting there. Ran Wind Mechdragon for two weeks, no drop. Including master runs.
MMBosstones86
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cpp_is_king
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I'm still having fun, as long as I don't get too caught up on having specific monsters or needing to get a specific drop it's been great. I think I ran Wind mech expert 30+ times and never got the drop, and sure it was frustrating a little, but at the same time I was getting great exp. It's not like all the time was totally wasted. And the dragon isn't even really necessary for anything.
It's what I both love and hate about the game. You can spend money / time grinding and farming for specific monsters, but even if you don't, you'll almost certainly be able to put together a team that can handle just about anything. The bare necessities (siren, lilith, mystic knights, lil' colored dragons), which will carry you through almost anything, can be gotten through farming normal dungeons or the pal machine, and everything else is just gravy. So I love it because of that.
On theo ther hand, because of that, they made it almost impossible to get every monster, so that you can never really "100%" everything in the game. But some people like getting 100% just for the sake of it, regardless of utility. So that's what I hate about it.
In any case, presumably by the next time the mech dragon dungeons come around, I'll be able to handle Legend and get 100% drop rate on whichever one(s) I'm missing.
It's what I both love and hate about the game. You can spend money / time grinding and farming for specific monsters, but even if you don't, you'll almost certainly be able to put together a team that can handle just about anything. The bare necessities (siren, lilith, mystic knights, lil' colored dragons), which will carry you through almost anything, can be gotten through farming normal dungeons or the pal machine, and everything else is just gravy. So I love it because of that.
On theo ther hand, because of that, they made it almost impossible to get every monster, so that you can never really "100%" everything in the game. But some people like getting 100% just for the sake of it, regardless of utility. So that's what I hate about it.
In any case, presumably by the next time the mech dragon dungeons come around, I'll be able to handle Legend and get 100% drop rate on whichever one(s) I'm missing.
cpp_is_king
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Did you do the Ice Mechdragon dungeon? That's where I got her. Massively better odds than Voice of the Siren / normal dungeon, even comparing Voice of the Siren 1.5x drop rate to Ice Mech normal. But the Ice Mech can go 2x. The odds are actually pretty well in your favor during Ice Mech x2. Too late now obviously, although the mechdragon dungeons will cycle back around eventually.
You can also progress up to higher tiers of normal dungeons where with each successive tier the drop rate gets higher. That being said, the drop rate definitely sucks on the normal dungeons. I do think it should be a bit higher.
Edit: Looking at the Chinese wiki, there are other special dungeons which we haven't yet gotten which also have a chance at Siren. Guessing we get those after the mechdragon cycle is finished.
George Claw M.D.
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lol. I can understand people being burnt out. The game can be a chore and exercise in frustration. The fun and success balance it out for me. We really do need an update though. I can't wait to be able to make multiple teams that I can switch between. How many teams does the Asian version allow to be kept at one time, anyway?
nicoga3000
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Finally got 2 Stone Knights to drop leading up to expert boss. Now to level one...
MMBosstones86
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is there a reason to have more than 1 ADK? I have a Dragon Knight and just had the MSK drop. Any reason to level him or just use him to skill up?
cpp_is_king
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If you want to go crazy you can have 3. 2 is probably more than sufficient for most needs. 1 is still fine though. The idea behind having multiple is that if you have 3 max skilled ADKs you can basically orb change every single turn. so in an all water dungeon, you would be doing massive damage, because you'd only have to get 1 green match, and then try to get your combo as big as possible. and you could do this every turn and never run out of green orbs
cpp_is_king
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Anyone know what rainbow keeper's unmitigated damage is, as well as his attack interval? Now that i got a green odin, Trying to figure out how feasible it would be to do green odin / amaterasu leaders, neptune+zeus+light/dark rippers as subs
Cosmo Clock 21
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22200 every five turns.
cpp_is_king
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Wow, seems very doable with Odin then, thanks
nicoga3000
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It is. That's how I clear it. Just gotta be patient.
cpp_is_king
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Anyone know exactly how Siren (not Siren the Enchanter)'s leader skill works? Is there a formula to how much it heals? I found one thing that said it's based on her total HP, but that doesn't make sense. Wouldn't it be based on RCV?
How do you use Green Odin properly? I just did the Dragon Knight Dungeon with Odin and Siren as leaders and got annihilated. It seems Green Odin only reduce the damage for the first hit and any subsequent hit is a full hit. So how is that a advantage against multiple enemy?
It's just her rcv value. Once evolved it'll be 3x the rcv.
Read the ability. It says when your hp is full. It's still useful against multiple enemies provided that they're in different timers and you can fully heal between hits.
Yeah this is a secondary device ( I generally play on my iPad). I was just rerolling for amusement during godfest on it.
I do have a Shiva and some pre-evolved ADKs on my main account. Sounds like Valkyrie is the better choice unless there's a two Shiva team comp out there? I'm not going to really play it, just have something out for helping.
cpp_is_king
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about a million HP.
man, it went SOO much faster with my group today. Green Odin / Amaterasu leaders. Verche, Knight of the Sky, Light Ripper, Dark Ripper, Sea Deity Neptune subs. 25 minutes total. I've gotta say,one thing that keeps me addicted to this game is how hard something and really seeing how effective the progression is when you level up, get new monsters, etc
Got the drop too. I need 1 more rainbow keeper, then 1 of each other color to evolve a few more things and i'm all set for tuesday
man, it went SOO much faster with my group today. Green Odin / Amaterasu leaders. Verche, Knight of the Sky, Light Ripper, Dark Ripper, Sea Deity Neptune subs. 25 minutes total. I've gotta say,one thing that keeps me addicted to this game is how hard something and really seeing how effective the progression is when you level up, get new monsters, etc
Got the drop too. I need 1 more rainbow keeper, then 1 of each other color to evolve a few more things and i'm all set for tuesday
oh man... this hurts. I NEED to upgrade my holy dragon asap, level 68, 2 to go LOL. I'm running Archangel/Odin leaders, Verche/Hades/Holy Dragon/Chaos Devil Dragon (for ripper & potential light keeper before, my only fully evolved ripper).
cpp_is_king
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The rippers help, but what also helps is just getting a few extra levels. A few ATK may not seem like a lot, but it makes a huge difference over time.
wohoo done! took like 45mins I think, could've been worse. He dropped, too, so it was totally worth it.
Same here. Love that 2x drop for Keeper, after how it went last week (4 runs, no drops).
Can anyone think of a scenario where you need 4 Rainbow Keepers? I dont need them for Evolution yet, but I figure if I need more than 2 then I'll get that 3th. 4 seems overkill though.
I need 3 Green aswell for the ADK's so, have to plan it out properly.
Can anyone think of a scenario where you need 4 Rainbow Keepers? I dont need them for Evolution yet, but I figure if I need more than 2 then I'll get that 3th. 4 seems overkill though.
I need 3 Green aswell for the ADK's so, have to plan it out properly.
They're fairly strong, so they can be inserted into parties quite nicely. The skill is a good emergency too, if you get a group with a lot of strong monsters on the same timer. Also, you never know how many you need next week and how bad luck you get... can't hurt. but yeah, I'm not keeping more than 1 spare
They're fairly strong, so they can be inserted into parties quite nicely. The skill is a good emergency too, if you get a group with a lot of strong monsters on the same timer. Also, you never know how many you need next week and how bad luck you get... can't hurt. but yeah, I'm not keeping more than 1 spare
Okay, just keeping it at 3 then! Should be good.
One more thing, I read about the Expert Mask dungeon. I never completed that but apparently running it with Succubus/Lilith is super easy. I got 2 Lilith and 2 Rippers. I guess that combination wont work as good right?
Need to get those runs in now that 2x drop is up.
Yay, just got my first keeper of rainbow. Used a pretty simple team, blue ogre + siren helper, light and dark rippers and two random monsters. Charged up rippers to clear waves 2-3 instantly. I didn't even try to attack the bosses, I just made any matches at the top of the screen as fast as possible to charge up the rippers. Whole dungeon took about 40 minutes. Also I discovered that your skill cooldowns won't go down if you don't make a match that turn, so you can't speed it up that way.
I might go again, he's the strongest monster I have at the moment.
Edit: Quick question, I've been putting +1 HP on my dark ripper and +1 ATK on my Fafnir since his skill is ATK based but its kind of a bad skill anyway. Do you think I should start putting +1 ATK on my light ripper or maybe my green lil dragon instead? Seems like I might get more use out of those down the line.
I might go again, he's the strongest monster I have at the moment.
Edit: Quick question, I've been putting +1 HP on my dark ripper and +1 ATK on my Fafnir since his skill is ATK based but its kind of a bad skill anyway. Do you think I should start putting +1 ATK on my light ripper or maybe my green lil dragon instead? Seems like I might get more use out of those down the line.
‎[US] Metal Dragon Schedule (15 Stamina) 2/12/2013 PST
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Check your 3rd digit on the left of your ID as it classifies which group you belong to (A: 0,5) (B: 1,6) (C:2,7) (D:3,8) (E:4,9)
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OK, since I got good help with my iPad team .... could I get some advice on what to level with my Droid team? I can also go farm some stuff (like lil's) if suggested.
FireDragon Tyrannos 26
Plesios 28
Wind Dragon Canopus 4
Marine Rider 20
Susano 6
Toyceratops 23
Mystic Stone Knight 4
Green Dragon 11
Brachio 9
Amaterasu Ohkami 36
Indra 30
Angel 1
Holy Dragon 1
Machine Golem 6
Basilisk 5
Devil Dragon 45
Leveling Mats :
1 King Ruby; 3 Ruby Pengdra
2 High Sapphire; 4 Sapphire Pengdra
1 King Emerald; 1 High Emerald; 3 Emerald Pengdra
3 King Gold
FireDragon Tyrannos 26
Plesios 28
Wind Dragon Canopus 4
Marine Rider 20
Susano 6
Toyceratops 23
Mystic Stone Knight 4
Green Dragon 11
Brachio 9
Amaterasu Ohkami 36
Indra 30
Angel 1
Holy Dragon 1
Machine Golem 6
Basilisk 5
Devil Dragon 45
Leveling Mats :
1 King Ruby; 3 Ruby Pengdra
2 High Sapphire; 4 Sapphire Pengdra
1 King Emerald; 1 High Emerald; 3 Emerald Pengdra
3 King Gold
about a million HP.
man, it went SOO much faster with my group today. Green Odin / Amaterasu leaders. Verche, Knight of the Sky, Light Ripper, Dark Ripper, Sea Deity Neptune subs. 25 minutes total. I've gotta say,one thing that keeps me addicted to this game is how hard something and really seeing how effective the progression is when you level up, get new monsters, etc
Got the drop too. I need 1 more rainbow keeper, then 1 of each other color to evolve a few more things and i'm all set for tuesday
Duno 25 mins is still tedious to me, all you are doing on these bosses is chopping away slowly, no fear of death (if you have the right team) and just endless matching orbs for god knows how long.
Some people saying it took them 2 hours to beat master mechs and rainbow keeper, that would make me wana quit, hence why I have stayed away from Rainbow Keeper, although I do really need to get a couple to evolve a few monsters.
Can someone help me. I want to run the Mask Expert dungeon tomorrow to get full benefit of those 2x drops. But I dont think I have a viable setup. I saw talk about a 4x Lilith team here, I unfortunately only have 2 of them.
I dont think I can match and mix, because I would need to add a def reducer for anything other than poison.
So I found this video, but can someone explain how it works. Why the Dragon Seed? I have some Dragon plants myself. Do they also work? I could also use Divine Mask?
As for the Ogre, is that a Armor Ogre? I cant find another low level Ogre. I got one of those but 500 health. Seems a bit high.
And then finally the healer. I dont have a Ceres or acces to one. I could use my Ohkami that is a different element. What is it with keeping the same element in these videos?
Anyway here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMmIb2s8xkg
I dont think I can match and mix, because I would need to add a def reducer for anything other than poison.
So I found this video, but can someone explain how it works. Why the Dragon Seed? I have some Dragon plants myself. Do they also work? I could also use Divine Mask?
As for the Ogre, is that a Armor Ogre? I cant find another low level Ogre. I got one of those but 500 health. Seems a bit high.
And then finally the healer. I dont have a Ceres or acces to one. I could use my Ohkami that is a different element. What is it with keeping the same element in these videos?
Anyway here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMmIb2s8xkg
MMBosstones86
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Finally got my Graviton Earth Dragon! So satisfying evolving something 4 times. Hes currently over my team cost, but whatever.
Anyone needs 50% wood reduction, message me.
Anyone needs 50% wood reduction, message me.
Dragons seed work in the same way as green sprites, low HP easy to farm.
Can be any ogre the resolve skill is the same regardless of rarity.
Keeping the same element increases the amount of hits per match, taking an Amu will mean you won't be able to kill a mask in 3 turns unless you match both green and yellow orbs each turn. (it should be pretty easy to find someone with a Alruane on your friends list)
Can be any ogre the resolve skill is the same regardless of rarity.
Keeping the same element increases the amount of hits per match, taking an Amu will mean you won't be able to kill a mask in 3 turns unless you match both green and yellow orbs each turn. (it should be pretty easy to find someone with a Alruane on your friends list)
So resolve is the best way to clear Rainbow Keeper dungeon?
Might try Viper Orochi + Siren/Ama leaders, Echidna, Succubus, Lightning Holy Dragon and Chaos Devil Dragon/Meteor Volcano Dragon/Wind Mechdragon. Do you think I can beat it?
ALSO!! I finally got the Lil' Green Dragon from the Pal machine!! Yay!!!! Only need the blue one now
Might try Viper Orochi + Siren/Ama leaders, Echidna, Succubus, Lightning Holy Dragon and Chaos Devil Dragon/Meteor Volcano Dragon/Wind Mechdragon. Do you think I can beat it?
ALSO!! I finally got the Lil' Green Dragon from the Pal machine!! Yay!!!! Only need the blue one now
Cosmo Clock 21
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You should be fine with that team, just might take a while (as is usually the case with rainbow keeper).
JP PAD is updating to ver5.0 tonight. Step it up, US PAD...
JP PAD is updating to ver5.0 tonight. Step it up, US PAD...
Thanks! And in the particular video, the reason he is stacking Green Orbs is to prepare for the round that brings 4 enemies at once, correct? So that if 2 of them are on the same timer, he can take one of them out quickly?
I am not so sure about the Alraune. I hope so then I guess, never seen anyone in my list with it
. I guess I can just as easily use Dragon Plant or my Divine Mask for this?
Edit: Ok! I got it on the Ogre thing. But the Armor Ogre is the only green one out there then right? His HP seems a bit high, thats why I was wondering. I was thinking maybe there is a lower tier Green Ogre.
I would say Odin+Healer and 4 rippers is the best way . But not everyone has access to that setup, so Resolve is the second best option.
Even if you don't have access to all the rippers I'd still think this way would be faster then using a resolve setup. If you have at least 1 ripper you can use the nuke for the wave of 4 knights in round 3 then you're golden after that. Any 5* healer + Odin should be able to get you back to full easily. Odin's Gugnir does double dmg and any rippers you can bring to the table only speed it up that much more.
In a completely unrelated note. I had an unusually lucky streak last night farming marine goblins. I got a ton from the last level of polar night tower. One run I got 3 goblins and a mythlit. lol Then after getting all those I got super lucky and got a double skillup and maxed my first Siren's skill so now I have a bunch sitting in my monster box waiting to use on my other Siren. Is it possible to get skillups on something that's sitting at max level? I'm short the blue evo mask to evolve her to the next step up. Holy crap it feels so OP to be able to create those heart orbs every 5 turns.
Yea odin and a healer is prob best way to go.
Took me 40 mins, Light Keeper was harder than the rainbow because I run a light team :S
Yup, it'll be cheaper to skill her up after her evolution though.
Took me 40 mins, Light Keeper was harder than the rainbow because I run a light team :S
Yup, it'll be cheaper to skill her up after her evolution though.
Thanks, I went with your suggestion thanks to your Odin. Currently battling a Dark Keeper... Zzz
EDIT; Just finished it for the first time and the Rainbow Keeper dropped! And just in 30 minutes, too. Very happy about this
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