This won't help you, but there's a particular level (I forget which) that, apparently, if you chain run it, you can level up to 200+ without spending stones. Can't remember which. You can probably do the math on an exp per stam chart.
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This won't help you, but there's a particular level (I forget which) that, apparently, if you chain run it, you can level up to 200+ without spending stones. Can't remember which. You can probably do the math on an exp per stam chart.
Seriously? That sounds great.
I decided to give up on my attempts to get ready for tomorrows Hera. The key to succes was a Noble Mech that again did not want to drop after 3 runs on the lowest Tech difficulty.
I'll now just work on the strategy that requires me to have 16k HP. I am already almost there, and apparently it makes it really easy once you get that over with.
Really wanted a Hera, but Noble runs take alot of time still, and I dont want to use stones for that when I can possibly get lucky with a 2x drop this weekend.
I decided to give up on my attempts to get ready for tomorrows Hera. The key to succes was a Noble Mech that again did not want to drop after 3 runs on the lowest Tech difficulty.
I'll now just work on the strategy that requires me to have 16k HP. I am already almost there, and apparently it makes it really easy once you get that over with.
Really wanted a Hera, but Noble runs take alot of time still, and I dont want to use stones for that when I can possibly get lucky with a 2x drop this weekend.
MMBosstones86
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would love to know that dungeon. Thanks to whoever feels like doing the math!
cpp_is_king
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Pretty sure the final normal dungeon (boss is Zeus) gives the highest exp / stamina ratio at somewhere around 800 exp / stamina. I don't think this will take you up to 200 though. Definitely higher than where I am now, but there's no way I can farm that yet.
MMBosstones86
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oh yeah i'm nowhere near that. pass
I have both Viper and Shiva and can put either one up. Which do you prefer?
George Claw M.D.
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It's not the best exp/stamina ratio(only about 400exp/stamina compared to over 500exp/stamina for some of the normal dungeons), but it's certainly the fastest way to level with the right team until you can consistently beat Zeus dungeons and such, and since last weekend was 1.5x gold for the dungeon, I was pulling in between 200K-240K gold per run. So, overall it was a very efficient dungeon for me. I ran a Wood/Water dual ADK leader team and just brute forced it through the dungeon. I usually run a Wood/Dark team, but Dark obviously wouldn't work in this dungeon, and I found the Water Dragons(Ice Mech and Aurora) were perfect against the Fire bosses which usually give my ADK teams fits. Without Light/Dark orbs, combos came in bunches, and I never took more than 2 turns max to beat each of the last 2 boss stages, no matter what 2 random elements the final boss would be.
I didn't keep track of how many stones I spent, but obviously the higher the rank you are, the more exp required for each successive rank-up. Just using the wiki to calculate an estimate, I'd say you'd need around 35+ stones to rank from level 108 to 130 playing Master Tri color with other dungeons sprinkled in to use up leftover stamina. 20 stones definitely wouldn't get you there. It would take around 113 dungeon runs assuming an average of 9800exp per run.
Sorry if my quick calculations are off. If someone else wants to do the math and correct me, please do.
I just put Orochi back. He will be up for four hours at least, until my ruby dragons hit.
George Claw M.D.
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Would that be your first ADK? What leader do you currently roll with? Based on my experience, I'd evolve your Dragon Knight to an ADK and make it leader, but that's if you have the monsters to make an all or majority Dragon team. You obviously already have ADK and a Green Dragon already, so it depends on your other party members. But if I could only have one, give me ADK for sure.
the_log_ride
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Well I only have enough to concentrate on one right now. Green king and a couple of pengs. My leader currently is an Ammy Ohkashi (6* one). My other account has an ADK leader, or Siren the Enchantress.
George Claw M.D.
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Oh! Amaterasu Ohkami? And you already have an ADK on a different account? Then, it's not as crucial to raise your Dragon Knight over the ripper. You can eventually do so, of course, but in your case, I'd probably go with the ripper first.
ADK is awesome, do you have a healer for your team? Ever since I've gotten a Siren I feel like I don't even need many mobs. I just rely on my friend list for all the awesomeness. If you don't have that healer piece that would be my suggestion.
Cosmo Clock 21
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oh. I see.
oh. I see.
Wow that thing is crazy? So jealous of the Japanese version. Love some of the art they've done on the monsters.
cpp_is_king
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What on earth is that?
Also I keep getting lil' red dragons from the Pal machine... where is my blue one!?!?
lol, screw you! Red is the last one I don't have, pulled the Pal machine probably 200 times and never gotten it. Urgh
Cosmo Clock 21
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I evolved it as the drop from this dungeon.
http://zh.pad.wikia.com/wiki/聖夜の贈り物
Took him out for a spin, at my current rank he actually has really good stats (and apparently gains 50% ice resist as a leader skill).
George Claw M.D.
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I didn't really have anything in particular to farm until Plant day, but I had 30 stamina staring me in the face, so I figured I'd lazily do another Expert Mask run. I start charging my Liliths' skills in the first round, until I can't avoid making a damaging match, and sweep the floor. No problem, I only got about 6 more turns to charge. Well, next round there's a Divine Red Mask. Totally oblivious to it, I merrily continue to make non-damaging orb matches to charge my poison. I was surprised and amused when the Mask killed me. I just laughed at myself and put the game down.
These are the creatures I have so far. I have 4 of the 5 lil dragons and 3 of them are on their 3rd evolution. I need keepers to evolve the dragons, siren and echidna. Are keepers only available in the Tuesday dungeon? I haven't tried it so far because i am not sure my creatures are strong enough to complete the dungeon. Any suggestions? I just reached the Tower of Flare in the normal dungeons. I unlocked the first technical dungeon Fertile Land but i am stuck on the last level, Fortdragon of the land. I get destroyed by the taur devils.
cpp_is_king
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My body is ready. BRING ON THE DRAGON PLANTS
George Claw M.D.
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Sure it is. It would still be a long fight, but Hades would definitely cut it down by a lot. If you could get past the first 4 battles, you'd be home free. I would definitely go for it, because you never know when Hera will come around again.Soooo... This is a tough question... I have a Viper Orochi, 2 Harpy Demons at 35 but enough pengdras to lvl them to 50.
I have a Verche at lvl 20 (4 Star form) but no Poisoner.
Is it realistic for me to have a shot at Hera if I use my Hades for Neptune?
cpp_is_king
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Soooo... This is a tough question... I have a Viper Orochi, 2 Harpy Demons at 35 but enough pengdras to lvl them to 50.
I have a Verche at lvl 20 (4 Star form) but no Poisoner.
Is it realistic for me to have a shot at Hera if I use my Hades for Neptune?
According to my calculation it will take you somewhere around 550-575 turns to kill Neptune if you use Hades' ability every time it comes up, and you hit him for 7 HP every time by matching every color in your party (I used 7 instead of 6 since you have the ultimate evo for Hades). That is an hard lower bound on the number of turns it will take you to kill him, since that will be basically your only source of damage
The 7 HP assumption is unlikely to play out in reality, so if you assume you hit him for 4 HP every time, it will take closer to about 625-650 turns.
All numbers give or take about 50 due to the fact that I can't predict how well you'll orb match in practice
Edit: In the worse case scenario, where you only hit him for 1 HP every single turn, it will take you about 850 turns.
cpp_is_king
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Not trying to discourage you, just giving you some numbers to work with so you know what to expect. I actually figured that out mathematically, so it's not just a wild guess. Should be pretty accurate
Not trying to discourage you, just giving you some numbers to work with so you know what to expect. I actually figured that out mathematically, so it's not just a wild guess. Should be pretty accurate
Yeah, I'm not discouraged, It might take a long while, but I think a 100% shot at Hera is worth it!
Another Question:
I have 1 ADK right now and 2 Mystic Stone Knights, Evolve all remaining 2 or just evolve 1 and try to get the rest to max Skill?
Edit: I also have a Shiva... so this might be the propably be a better option?
Edit#2: I just checked, I could go with a Light Mech Dragon instead of a Verche. That would make Neptune a 40-50 Turn fight with Shiva and the 2 Demons...
So my Team would be: Orochi, Harpy Demon, Harpy Demon, Light Mech Dragon, Shiva, Xelios Amaterasu (If she is up!)
That sounds more effective I guess, yeah.
I have barely made the cut for 16.5K hp. Had to drop a King Dragon on a Lilith, but so glad I managed to make it. Now hopefully 3 more levels to get her some extra poison damage.
No plants for me unfortunately. Getting Amaterasu Ohkami a few more levels would also be nice.
I have barely made the cut for 16.5K hp. Had to drop a King Dragon on a Lilith, but so glad I managed to make it. Now hopefully 3 more levels to get her some extra poison damage.
No plants for me unfortunately. Getting Amaterasu Ohkami a few more levels would also be nice.
I just got 7 plants in two runs. Randomness is random.
Yeah definitely. I had a very across the board morning with the dragon dungeon. I got a fair amount of plants, flowers and seeds and got 3 fruit on 4 runs. Ill take it.
@CPP your nuts man and that is awesome. I need to get more box space really badly. I've added a ton of late (up to 100) but still want more.
Hera at Noon PST.
[US] Metal Dragon Schedule (15 Stamina) 2/14/2013 PST
Check your 3rd digit on the left of your ID as it classifies which group you belong to (A: 0,5) (B: 1,6) (C:2,7) (D:3,8) (E:4,9)
A: 10:00 15:00 20:00
B: 11:00 16:00 21:00
C: 12:00 17:00 22:00
D: 8:00 13:00 18:00
E: 9:00 14:00 19:00
[US] Metal Dragon Schedule (15 Stamina) 2/14/2013 PST
Check your 3rd digit on the left of your ID as it classifies which group you belong to (A: 0,5) (B: 1,6) (C:2,7) (D:3,8) (E:4,9)
A: 10:00 15:00 20:00
B: 11:00 16:00 21:00
C: 12:00 17:00 22:00
D: 8:00 13:00 18:00
E: 9:00 14:00 19:00
So, Hera is up at 12:00? Damn, this is 21:00 o'clock for me... so much time left! :/
MMBosstones86
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can we use the same setup for Rainbow as for Hera?
Resolve
Rippers
Auto-Healer
How hard are things leading up?
Resolve
Rippers
Auto-Healer
How hard are things leading up?
I don't get it either.
I did seven runs.
Not a single Fruit dropped. NOT. ONE.
I only need one more so my planning is complete for the week, but it's still stupidly annoying.
And it's sad that I need to do the metal dragons today because by the end of the day I'll have an ADK, so I sort of need that XP..
No, that won't do it at all. There are specific strategies you need. If you want to go the auto-healer route, you need to have Odin + 16500 HP.
Has anyone tried running Hera with a low HP zombie team? Came across a walkthrough here - http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=842 which makes it sound feasible. Have most of the elments just not at max level/max skill
Zippedpinhead
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I have a very similar team, even though I do not have the max level/max skills.. As far as I can tell it will come down to managing skills, timers, and making sure that all skills are up before going to the next battle for every level before stage 6.
The little devils have 1 turn attack timers, the demons have 2 turn attack timers, and the mystic knights have 3 turn attack timers.
With an "underpowered" resolve team, two enemies on the same timer in round one is instant death. the rest really depend on skills and orb matching.
Like I posted before, i will try it tonight with the following team:
Viper Orochi 6
Harpy Demon 50
Harpy Demon 50
Light Mech Dragon Lvl 7 - 15... dont know yet
Shiva
Amaterasu Ohkami ( I hope Xelios is up at 12!)
I was thinking of going with
Ogre 4
Lillith 1
Echida 1
Harpie 31 x2
But thats slightly too much HP for the best Ama thats on my firends list at the mo, so might swap out a harpie for a basic light chimera. Worried more about the earlier stages, trying to figure out how many stones Im willing to spend
This is going to be my strategy. I won't be able to meet the 16.5k HP minimum for an auto-healer team (not sure it's possible without neptune, shiva or max odin). I have to use an Ogre + ama friend, so it's going to be ugly:
Ogre
2 max harpies
Lilith
Echidna
Ammy
Once I get past the first four round, it's auto-win.. but those first four rounds are gonna be brutal unless my orb matching skills suddenly drastically improve. If I can spend 5 or less stones, would be thrilled.
Is it possible to use a Naga instead of an Echidna? HOw long does a naga delay? My naga is only 90 HP. My Echidna is 900.
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