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[J0dy77]

So now that my Horus has hit 94, coins are suddenly becoming an issue. It's costing me 70k coins for each +1 I feed him.

If I dump a whole bunch of + eggs on blobs and then feed a +50 to him will I get nailed for each or a one time 70k coins? Hoping for the latter but feel like I already know the answer.

 

[Slottm]

you get charged for every +1 on it, but not the charge for his level. ie; feeding a lvl 99 monster costs 9900 base. every +1 i think adds 1000 gold. By not feeding 5 +1s seperate, you save the cost of 9,900 X4

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

From the Wiki:

+1 Monster Fusion Cost: When +1 monsters are being fused, the cost will greatly increase to 1000 times the final +value plus the original fusion cost (monster lv * 100 * feed count). For instance, the cost of fusing 2 normal monsters and 3 +1 monsters to a level 70 monster with +23 is 70*100*5+(23+3)*1000=61000。

Looks like it's a one-time cost per feed, so 5 +10 monsters and 1 +50 monster would give you the same monetary penalty as far as + eggs go.

 

[J0dy77]

you get charged for every +1 on it, but not the charge for his level. ie; feeding a lvl 99 monster costs 9900 base. every +1 i think adds 1000 gold. By not feeding 5 +1s seperate, you save the cost of 9,900 X4

That would start to add up. Ill probably start to do it in bursts of 10.

 

[George Claw M.D.]

The wiki calculation was confusing to read, so I tested it myself when I was feeding +eggs to my ADK a while ago.

In comparison to the cost for the +stats, the cost for your monster level is really negligible.

Here are a few examples, using J0dy's Horus at Lvl.94 and +59 stats.

Example 1: J0dy feeds his Horus a single +50 monster.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 118,400 gold​

Example 2: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters at once.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 5 fed monsters = 47,000 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 156,000 gold​

Example 3: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters, one at a time.

(1st feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 78,400 gold​

(2nd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
69,000 gold for the existing +69 stats on Horus = 69,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 88,400 gold​

(3rd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
79,000 gold for the existing +79 stats on Horus = 79,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 98,400 gold​

(4th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
89,000 gold for the existing +89 stats on Horus = 89,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 108,400 gold​

(5th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
99,000 gold for the existing +99 stats on Horus = 99,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 118,400 gold​

Total = 492,000 gold​

For simplicity's sake, I just assumed Horus didn't gain any levels between feedings. It wouldn't make much difference in costs anyway. Obviously, Example 3 costs substantially more gold than the first two examples, because for each separate feeding, J0dy has to pay 1000g for every existing +stat on Horus. It's like compound interest on steroids.

A balanced compromise that I use myself is I feed five +1 monsters to a sixth +1 monster to create a single +6 monster. When I accumulate five +6 monsters, I then feed them to whatever monster I'm building up. So, I feed the main monster +30 stats at a time.

 

[xCobalt]

I really hope Gungho starts to have special dungeons outside of events. The game is pretty stale when there's nothing going on. Awhile ago, they had the mystic stone knight for a week or so which is way better than having multiple single day events.

 

[Ryhian]

Request sent.

Ha we both had terrible gifts. Not sure if you can get anything great from them or not.

 

[Splat]

spent stone to try and get king to evolve hera today, 0/5 on subsequent metal dragon runs

 

[nicoga3000]

spent stone to try and get king to evolve hera today, 0/5 on subsequent metal dragon runs

On the other end if the spectrum, I've spent about 3 stones for metal dragons...I've walked away with a total of about 17 kings? Worth it to me to my two Heras team ready.

Also, I totally forgot about ultimate evos. I need to farm sprites now to get all my dragons ultimate evo taken care of.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

The wiki calculation was confusing to read, so I tested it myself when I was feeding +eggs to my ADK a while ago.

In comparison to the cost for the +stats, the cost for your monster level is really negligible.

Here are a few examples, using J0dy's Horus at Lvl.94 and +59 stats.

Example 1: J0dy feeds his Horus a single +50 monster.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 118,400 gold​

Example 2: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters at once.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 5 fed monsters = 47,000 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 156,000 gold​

Example 3: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters, one at a time.

(1st feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 78,400 gold​

(2nd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
69,000 gold for the existing +69 stats on Horus = 69,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 88,400 gold​

(3rd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
79,000 gold for the existing +79 stats on Horus = 79,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 98,400 gold​

(4th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
89,000 gold for the existing +89 stats on Horus = 89,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 108,400 gold​

(5th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
99,000 gold for the existing +99 stats on Horus = 99,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 118,400 gold​

Total = 492,000 gold​

For simplicity's sake, I just assumed Horus didn't gain any levels between feedings. It wouldn't make much difference in costs anyway. Obviously, Example 3 costs substantially more gold than the first two examples, because for each separate feeding, J0dy has to pay 1000g for every existing +stat on Horus. It's like compound interest on steroids.

A balanced compromise that I use myself is I feed five +1 monsters to a sixth +1 monster to create a single +6 monster. When I accumulate five +6 monsters, I then feed them to whatever monster I'm building up. So, I feed the main monster +30 stats at a time.

It's not much of a balanced compromise; you're pretty much applying Method 2 exclusively

 

[malts]

Ha we both had terrible gifts. Not sure if you can get anything great from them or not.

I think it's just starter dragons. I'm finding some use for my Pterados. What did you get?

 

[Ryhian]

I think it's just starter dragons. I'm finding some use for my Pterados. What did you get?

2 spinions.

 

[Kosh]

US] 6/9/2013
Dungeon of Ruby Dragons ( 20 Stamina, 5 Battles )
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[Ryhian]

I'm up to rank 83 now and just constantly running Tower of Giants. Getting pretty sick of it, but gotta keep grinding! I'm at the point where my gods and even my resist monsters are leveled up enough where the feeders from ToG barely move their xp anymore. Is it worth it to keep spending the money to try and slowly level them up from these drops or what is the best strategy at this point?

 

[OTIX]

I'm up to rank 83 now and just constantly running Tower of Giants. Getting pretty sick of it, but gotta keep grinding! I'm at the point where my gods and even my resist monsters are leveled up enough where the feeders from ToG barely move their xp anymore. Is it worth it to keep spending the money to try and slowly level them up from these drops or what is the best strategy at this point?

Grinding ranks on the weekend is still a good idea but as your monsters become higher level you can't keep feeding them low lvl crap, it becomes too expensive. At this point you need to put together one good team, I don't know what you have but the easiest are usually an ADK team or a mono colour 2/4/2 team. That will allow you to do the higher level normal dungeons, farm tech dungeons for pengdras and beat the rotating special dungeons on expert level. The game opens up a lot once you have one strong team.

 

[StMeph]

I'm up to rank 83 now and just constantly running Tower of Giants. Getting pretty sick of it, but gotta keep grinding! I'm at the point where my gods and even my resist monsters are leveled up enough where the feeders from ToG barely move their xp anymore. Is it worth it to keep spending the money to try and slowly level them up from these drops or what is the best strategy at this point?

Grinding Tower of Giants up is just to raise your max Team Cost and Stamina so you can run better monsters and go into higher dungeons.

Efficient XP still comes from the same sources: jewel/metal dragons, pengdras, and moltdras. Some evo materials are decent XP as well.

 

[nicoga3000]

I wonder how many runs of Dark it will take me to get a dark starter on 2x. That's all I care about since I've already caught one of the legendary dark dragon dudes.

 

[atlantaguy]

I wonder how many runs of Dark it will take me to get a dark starter on 2x. That's all I care about since I've already caught one of the legendary dark dragon dudes.

Well I ran it probably 30 or 40 times outside of 2x and had no drop so I just gave up. Good luck to you though.

 

[LukeSmith]

I rerolled a Mochuzuki Chiyome? It seems way better than everything I've got so far, but is it worth playing with or should I keep rerolling

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

I rerolled a Mochuzuki Chiyome? It seems way better than everything I've got so far, but is it worth playing with or should I keep rerolling

Keep the account, but she doesn't even crack the "I am sick of rerolling" tier IMO.

 

[Dispatch]

Is it possible, at all, for Neptune to drop in the last Ocean of Heaven stage?

 

[Skye]

Is it possible, at all, for Neptune to drop in the last Ocean of Heaven stage?

Nope. You'll always get gold from Neptune.

 

[J0dy77]

The wiki calculation was confusing to read, so I tested it myself when I was feeding +eggs to my ADK a while ago.

In comparison to the cost for the +stats, the cost for your monster level is really negligible.

Here are a few examples, using J0dy's Horus at Lvl.94 and +59 stats.

Example 1: J0dy feeds his Horus a single +50 monster.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 118,400 gold​

Example 2: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters at once.

9400 gold for Horus' level x 5 fed monsters = 47,000 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
50,000 gold for the +50 stats being fed to Horus = 50,000 gold

Total = 156,000 gold​

Example 3: J0dy feeds his Horus five +10 monsters, one at a time.

(1st feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
59,000 gold for the existing +59 stats on Horus = 59,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 78,400 gold​

(2nd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
69,000 gold for the existing +69 stats on Horus = 69,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 88,400 gold​

(3rd feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
79,000 gold for the existing +79 stats on Horus = 79,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 98,400 gold​

(4th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
89,000 gold for the existing +89 stats on Horus = 89,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 108,400 gold​

(5th feeding) 9400 gold for Horus' level x 1 fed monster = 9400 gold
99,000 gold for the existing +99 stats on Horus = 99,000 gold
10,000 gold for the +10 stats being fed to Horus = 10,000 gold
Sub-total = 118,400 gold​

Total = 492,000 gold​

For simplicity's sake, I just assumed Horus didn't gain any levels between feedings. It wouldn't make much difference in costs anyway. Obviously, Example 3 costs substantially more gold than the first two examples, because for each separate feeding, J0dy has to pay 1000g for every existing +stat on Horus. It's like compound interest on steroids.

A balanced compromise that I use myself is I feed five +1 monsters to a sixth +1 monster to create a single +6 monster. When I accumulate five +6 monsters, I then feed them to whatever monster I'm building up. So, I feed the main monster +30 stats at a time.

Thanks George. The one major thing i still didn't realize was that you pay extra for each + on the monster already. The more I'm feeding him the harsher it's becoming but all worth it in the end.

One point i think you're missing in the calculation is the cost of feeding all of those + mobs to the feeders. It's still going to come out better than 1 at a time but worth mentioning.

 

[MMBosstones86]

spent most of the day in Ocean of Heaven. Came away with about 5+ eggs, but thats it. Was reallly hoping for some more masks.

Still no luck with x2 Ancient dark. Only have 1 dragon and a ton of Moltdras. Was hoping for the starter black, but from the sounds of it, it's not dropping very easily.

 

[Narras]

I just now got another Ancient Dark Dragon in the expert dungeon. I wanted a Moondragon D'spinas. I've been running this dungeon all day. :/

 

[George Claw M.D.]

Thanks George. The one major thing i still didn't realize was that you pay extra for each + on the monster already. The more I'm feeding him the harsher it's becoming but all worth it in the end.

One point i think you're missing in the calculation is the cost of feeding all of those + mobs to the feeders. It's still going to come out better than 1 at a time but worth mentioning.

Yeah. That's true. I thought about it but left it out for brevity's sake. My post was long enough as it is. Taking that into account, Ex.2 is actually cheaper than Ex.1 when you consider the additional 50,000g it costs to make that single +50 monster. I did take that into account when devising the feeding method I personally use.

 

[massoluk]

Another weekend with Ocean of Heavens marathon, another day without Mermaid to show for it.

 

[atlantaguy]

If anyone cares, my ocean of heaven weekend gave me like 8 or 9 + eggs but that includes yesterday. I needed money so I just ran it and sold all the mobs. It's been an ok weekend but last weekend i averaged about 1 per run but not so much this time.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

More 5.3 shit
Kagatsuchi busty

New cycle of "magic stone" dragons, who have some ability that lets you switch leaders or something bizarre like that

 

[nicoga3000]

Any easy teams to put together for master fire dude?

 

[Kosh]

[US] 6/10/2013
Alert! Metal Dragons! ( 15 Stamina, 5 Battles )
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[StMeph]

More 5.3 shit

New cycle of "magic stone" dragons, who have some ability that lets you switch leaders or something bizarre like that

That is basically a pokemon. A legendary pokemon, but still a pokemon.

 

[lenni]

Any easy teams to put together for master fire dude?

Amaterasu + fire resist should definitely clear master. Or just do it by force, should be easy.

 

[Kyu]

Any easy teams to put together for master fire dude?

MVD+auto heal will do.

 

[nicoga3000]

What about for the rare Phoenix encounter? Do we know how har he hits? I cleared master with resist + AMA, so that was simple. I'm worried about seeing Phoenix now!

 

[StMeph]

What about for the rare Phoenix encounter? Do we know how har he hits? I cleared master with resist + AMA, so that was simple. I'm worried about seeing Phoenix now!

Isn't the spawn rate absurdly low?

Edit: From the JP Wiki: http://zh.pad.wikia.com/wiki/炎の天空龍?variant=zh-tw

Phoenix is 8338 ATK, 1 round timer, 205672 HP, Defense unknown. Guaranteed drop, appears alone.

Same Active skill as Horus, no Leader skill though.

 

[nicoga3000]

Isn't the spawn rate absurdly low?

Yup, but if he spawns, he's 100% drop.

 

[J0dy77]

Yeah. That's true. I thought about it but left it out for brevity's sake. My post was long enough as it is. Taking that into account, Ex.2 is actually cheaper than Ex.1 when you consider the additional 50,000g it costs to make that single +50 monster. I did take that into account when devising the feeding method I personally use.

I'll probably go with your second option but not sure how long I can hold out not feeding the + mobs. The way I'm looking at it, just feeding every mob right away winds up being a few hundred K coins that I can just run the weekend dungeon to make up. Outside of the + egg scenario I really don't have any issue with coins, back over 4 million after this weekend.


On another note, anyone else completely disapointed seeing the Skydragons pop back in the rotation. I know Gungho needs to extend the life of the game but skydragons are awful, at least give us the mech dragons.

 

[Slottm]

Skydragons get a bad rap due to their stats being low at early stages of the game, ie; the investment into them before seeing a real reward is very high, while other monsters may be better earlier on. ie; rippers are amazing out of the box at lvl 1, their lvl 99 is pretty awful investment. Sky dragons have the highest atk values in the game (few exceptions, such as ares). With many players having several lvl 99s, a skydragon isn't so bad anymore.

 

[massoluk]

Any easy teams to put together for master fire dude?

Beat the living shit out of Master with Siren team leader (max skill) + 4 blue mobs + fire resist dragon. Seriously a cake walk for me.

 

[nicoga3000]

It's actually kind of fun seeing Skydragons again. Back when they first came around, Expert was rough for me. Now, I can clear Master with ease. I can farm the dungeons now!

Speaking of, my first Master clear gave me a +egg, ha. Always fun!

 

[Jagernaut]

On another note, anyone else completely disapointed seeing the Skydragons pop back in the rotation. I know Gungho needs to extend the life of the game but skydragons are awful, at least give us the mech dragons.

I agree, the sky dragons are awful unless you put a ton of experience into them. I don't keep them in my roster if they drop. I would like the mech dragons to return since I don't have any of them. They were running when I started playing but I was too weak to run the higher difficulties.

 

[J0dy77]

I agree, the sky dragons are awful unless you put a ton of experience into them. I don't keep them in my roster if they drop. I would like the mech dragons to return since I don't have any of them. They were running when I started playing but I was too weak to run the higher difficulties.

Same for me. I got very lucky on Expert getting the Blue (it was my first major drop) and got the light and dark the same way. Would really like the green and red, to finish out the set. I love the artwork on the red.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Welcome back

Looks like Japan is updating to 5.3 tomorrow. Nothing major really, just
- expand box size to 600
- added sort monster box by number of fusions performed (wtf??)
- some crap with mail

Since there's no mention of any new monsters I'm assuming the update is so GungHo can add Clash of Clans mobs to the game, which also means we are likely to get 5.3 within the next two weeks.

 

[Cerity]

we're getting 5.2 on the 13th sooo.....

 

[raiot]

Prepare for Heartbreaker Busty Evolution!

 

[MMBosstones86]

we're getting 5.2 on the 13th sooo.....

anyone got those notes on 5.2?

super LTTP, but I managed to get the dark starter to drop in expert and mindlessly running in Sunday. Didn't even realize it until the eggs at the end. Fantastic!

 

[BlueSteel]

Running a dual lucifer setup has allowed me to plow through the normal dungeons. I've been using some guy's lvl 80 lucifer and have gotten up to the last dungeon of mars crater. Feels good man.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Version 5.2

• New evolutions for Goblins and the Slimes
• Ultimate Evolutions for Sieg/CuChu/Valk (Sieg gains sub fire element, Chu gains sub dark element, Valk gains sub wood element)
• 6th team page
• UI updates (Monster Types now have image thumbnail associations, active skills have identifier thumbnails, new sorting options for monster box)
• Ultimate [Light] Romans gain new types (Minerva: Technical, Neptune: Physical, Ceres + Venus: Healer, Hades: Demon)
• Green Odin Active buffed to 50x

Also the game requires iOS4 now or something like that.

 

[nicoga3000]

I can't get Dark Keeper to show up. It's driving me nuts.

Also, can we expect a Godfest at 5.2 release? Got a bunch of stones waiting to be used.