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Puzzle & Dragons |OT| Pokemon + Bejeweled + Dungeon RPG on iOS/Android
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android cards pls start existing ahhh
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Aight, added a new tier and shuffled monsters around accordingly. I still don't think Grodin and Neptune should be worth starting out with but oh wellll
Septimus Prime
Member
Immune to poison and with that much defense, huh? That's a new one. I was going to say a Horus team with Neptune on it, but now it's going to be a Horus team with Lucifer on it.
Barring Lucifer, it seems to me a team with Neptune, Echidna, and an Ultra Gravity user on it would work, as well, but I'd rather take the easier route.
Can someone explain to me how defense works in this game?
How to break high numbered enemies' defense?
I only know of the effect of certain skills like the Mk.III Golems.. but even those skills have few turns then the enemy's defense goes up again..
Any way to 'break' the defense for the whole battle?
How to break high numbered enemies' defense?
I only know of the effect of certain skills like the Mk.III Golems.. but even those skills have few turns then the enemy's defense goes up again..
Any way to 'break' the defense for the whole battle?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
As long as you sweep the floor, the timer on the defense break doesn't tick down. This is particularly useful for Shiva runs through say Wednesday Dungeon for example since you just stall and charge up his 100% def break, then run a train through the rest of the dungeon.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Shiva makes all monsters defense 0 for one round (but if you sweep the round, it carries over into the next round, and so on).
Defense is basically subtracted from your attack. If the monster has a defense of 1000 and you deal less or equal to 1000 damage, it will come up as 1. But if the boss is weak to your element (water attacking a fire enemy), you take your damage times 2, and THEN subtract the defense.
PaD Forum Post - this contains damage formulas that may be useful.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Killing all the enemy monsters.
If you DON'T kill all the monsters on the board the round you activate Shiva, the debuff goes away and all the monsters return to normal defense.
Okey, finally understood how this works!
So to summarize it, my attack must exceed the enemy's defensive, that number gets subtracted from my total attack THEN I actually land an attack with what's remaining!
Damn, Shiva would be an awesome monster to own : ( , breaking every enemy's DEF is a huge advantage!
Does sweeping the round applies only to Shiva, or even my Light Mk.III Golem can get that advantage? Lets say I activated it's skill to break the enemies DEF to 25% for 5 turns only, as long as I finish them all in one hit the 5 turn won't go down by 1? Did I get this correctly?
So to summarize it, my attack must exceed the enemy's defensive, that number gets subtracted from my total attack THEN I actually land an attack with what's remaining!
Damn, Shiva would be an awesome monster to own : ( , breaking every enemy's DEF is a huge advantage!
Does sweeping the round applies only to Shiva, or even my Light Mk.III Golem can get that advantage? Lets say I activated it's skill to break the enemies DEF to 25% for 5 turns only, as long as I finish them all in one hit the 5 turn won't go down by 1? Did I get this correctly?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Not as useful as it sounds for general cases. For a select few bosses, it's clutch. For running Super King Dragon's, it's a must. Mask and Sprite dungeons it can be useful early on, but there are ways to bypass it with a strong enough team later on.
As for if other def skills carry through, I actually don't know. That's a good question.
Oh, actually I just confirmed that my Machine Golem Mk.III has the same advantage..
"For 5 turns, defense of all enemies is reduced to 25%. If all enemies are defeated within this turn, skill effect will carry to the next round."
Ok, now I get DEF & DEF-break abilities.
What about poison? What's so great about monsters with poison abilities?
"For 5 turns, defense of all enemies is reduced to 25%. If all enemies are defeated within this turn, skill effect will carry to the next round."
Ok, now I get DEF & DEF-break abilities.
What about poison? What's so great about monsters with poison abilities?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Poison ignores defense. So a monster with 600,000 DEF but 78 HP dies in one turn to pretty much any poisoner.
That's superb!
A Neptune is all what I dream of now T~T
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Or a Lillith or Ghostring!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
The benefit of the other monsters is that they're at least farmable. Neptune is a lucky REM pull. Neptune is FAR superior, of course!
You're going to be in for a treat when you start using poisoners/a friend's Shiva in the Shrine of Spirits - Expert and Room of the Mask - Expert dungeons.
By the way, the Sky Dragon of Darkness dungeon is x2 today, so if you don't have a Lilith it's a good time to try to get one from there.
Ghostring sucks -.-
Yeah : (
& I really need one to build a decent water team too.
Am planning to go for the x2 on the 1st of September..
Am working on leveling & evolving last week's profits, got me the red Chinese goddess & a fine dark/water dragon..
I'll post some screenshots of my box once am happy with their levels : )
MMBosstones86
Member
i think he meant with a discount like the itunes cards
I see. I guess Android cards just aren't popular enough to have massive discounts like that.
MMBosstones86
Member
i find most of these dragons useless outside of auto farming teams. I've filled in with some ancient dragons only because of the 9 turn CD active skill. Other than that, meh.
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i've seen an epic amount of mystic masks in Ocean of Heaven today. Only had one drop, but still...
atlantaguy
Member
I just put mine up.
I'm really enjoying farming King of Gods on the weekends. In addition to the great rewards, it really takes away from the mindlessness of Sea God of Heaven. I still run Sea God most of the time, but it's nice to have a real challenge whenever a Goemon shows up on my friends list.
What team do you usually run and what's your strategy? Managed to get my second titan today so I'm hoping to level that up asap and get some skill ups when the next event rolls around.
atlantaguy
Member
I'm lucky to have a Lucifer, so I run a high RCV team. I basically try to stall as early as possible. The easiest way to do that is against a water demon, but if you are careful and don't deal too much damage, a fire demon can work too. Once Lucifer is charged I take a few hits and go to work. If I get an accidental heart match before round 8 I pop Echidna, heal up, and stall until she's ready again, then continue on. Gigas takes care of round 8, Goemon #1 takes care of round 9, Echidna>Goemon>Horus against Zeus. I then have 3 turns to finish him off. If he isn't dead by the time his timer is at one, I activate Lucifer and Gigas and that should do it. If at any time during rounds 8, 9, or 10 I get an accidental heart match, Lucifer takes me down to 1 HP. The only time I failed with this team was when I couldn't kill the round 1 mobs fast enough and got overwhelmed.
I'm not sure how to go about this with a low RCV team. It solves the random heart problem, but it's much more difficult to get the right HP. It all depends on which mobs appear and what order they attack. If their attacks don't put you into the HP window, then it's game over...
Thanks : )
Ran the Sky Dragon of Darkness dungeon over 5 times on Expert & didn't get a single Dark Knight or Lilith drops.. That was annoying -___-
Gonna try later on the x2 next week
If possible you should farm Master because it has a better drop rate.
Can't beat it with my current monsters' levels.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Dark Mystery Dragon is Odin except reduces damage by 75% and has leader swap, pretty cool
There's skillup fodder for Persephone in the dungeon too, but who uses Persephone
There's skillup fodder for Persephone in the dungeon too, but who uses Persephone
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Feeding pengdras. Great, Super, Great, Great, Good, Great, Great.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
Persephone could be good in a Dark-focused Haku team, but even at 11 cd, why not wait for haku's skill at 14 turns? In retrospect, I should max leveled my loki instead of my persephone, loki has a lot more utility in my haku team.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Also "coincidentally" right after we started complaining about the Groove Coaster UFO being useless GungHo makes a dungeon where it is almost necessasry to clear. Nebra Disk has 600k DEF and uses pre-emptive Skill Guard, and nukes you for 100k after counting down from 3. So you have four turns to whittle down 35 HP... or you could just SECRET BONUS it to death instantly.
Isn't there other monsters that have a similar ability to UFO?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Ra and Bahamut are the only other monsters I can think of that have nukes that pierce defense. Good luck getting either one of those on a lark?
It's definitely possible to ding Nebra Disk from 35 HP to death before he nukes you, but the UFO just makes it completely trivial.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Too bad I only farmed enough UFO to get to skill level 2. Cosmo, what dungeon is that?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Dark Mystery Dragon, in the next cycle of dragons after the War Dragons. I'm going to stop making predictions about when we're getting these cause collabs actually happen for the NA version now and mess with the biweekly dragon schedules.
It's a 7 floor dungeon but easily stallable so you probably don't need to worry about getting UFO up to higher skill level.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Well in that case, no worries on my end!
Zippedpinhead
Member
I have 15 I evo'd squids and 1 evo'd squid for Artemis. It's a shame that I went 0/10 on her this past week for skill ups.
Did get a couple of skill ups for UFO though. Even though I have a Ra, I think UFO might fit better on an existing team.
Did get a couple of skill ups for UFO though. Even though I have a Ra, I think UFO might fit better on an existing team.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Man, been farming Starlight Ceres all day and haven't even seen a dub.
I ran it all weekend and only got 1. It seems the higher up the tier you go the better the drop rate on evo mats. I haven't run Zeus nearly as much but get a lot more dub drops. Problem is that I keep wiping due to those damn heart cascades.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
That's why I'm not in the mood to run it. I still haven't cleared Hera either. Last time I made it to the dragon before her, I simply couldn't do enough damage. But my fire team can farm Ceres with little to no problem (Carbuncles just take patience).
Tried clearing King of gods today and the heart cascade got me. I think once I go through my supply of pengdras, I'll attempt it with Kirin and see how that goes.
Goemon is such a great team and fun to play. If I can somehow grab satan when he comes around I could probably clear any dungeon consistently. Without satan its too inconsistent.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I will buy a Satan. I need that consistent Goemon fun.
atlantaguy
Member
I'm definitely going to play around with a 0 RCV Goemon team involving Satan. It'll will be interesting to see how it compares, since stalling is basically impossible. I'm not sure how easy it will be to take out Zeus without Ninja Firework.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Next time Goemon descends, farm for skill ups I guess.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Okay yeah Legendary Nebraska Disk is completely free to a double 50% resist team, although as you might imagine is boring as fuck.
Interestingly enough the dungeon also drops a new Werewolf monster who has the dark analogue to the active on busty ogres. Leader skill grants 2xHP to dark monsters (so useless as leader) but is a 5 cost attacker so that might come in handy some day.
Interestingly enough the dungeon also drops a new Werewolf monster who has the dark analogue to the active on busty ogres. Leader skill grants 2xHP to dark monsters (so useless as leader) but is a 5 cost attacker so that might come in handy some day.
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