Add me, I'll put up my luci
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Done, thanks!
Ahem... NO?
I'ts more like: Lucifer = Kirin >= Horus >Ookuninushi > Bastet
I can't speak for Ookuninushi because he is a) not buffed and b) not even in the US version yet, but I have Lucifer at 99, Horus at 98 and Kirin and 88 all the subs for their best teams.
Descended Dungeons is Kirin or Lucifer Time!
Including the japanese 2.0 Gods (the blue one that has Kirin's skill, and the green one that goes from 1.5 with a 3 combo to x10 with a 20 combo), I'd say the top tier list will become this:
Lucifer = Kirin >= Blue Japanese 2.0 God >= Horus = Ookuninushi > Bastet > Green Japanese 2.0 God* (Savant Tier Candidate)
Tonner Cyn
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So I did a few more pulls hoping to join the Luci ranks...to no luck. I did, however, get a second Horus. Go for skill up or hold for an awaken skill?
I'd hold for awaken. Getting a skillup for horus doesn't really help you too much. Without the skillup it'll still be ready for a max skill goemon and the skill doesn't help you much on a regular horus team.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Well fuck, Looks like I'm not getting a highlander or zerker.. the vampire floor would literally take me hundreds of moves to clear and if I get caught with a bad run of orbs before 2 of them attack I die. I wasted 2 stones before realizing it wasn't going to happen.
Neither, i'll keep both in case Gungho decided to do 2 different versions (à la Kagutsuchi).
Zippedpinhead
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Hold for awaken skill, because they will still go for skill up when they get rolled out as well.
HERA-UR TOMORROW!
Ok so last time my 0-stone team was
Leader: dark war dirty Minerva lvl 50 ish
D/D hades lvl 50
RK,
Drawn Joker (not busty) lvl 50
Awoken Hera-IS lvl 50
Friend leader : max Luci (decent + eggs)
My "How to" steps:
Ogres are easy (does only the reg/green one drop, 3/3 on that one today)
Lolcannon fortune (instant kill 600,000 makes a very frustrating fight easy)
Ifrit (match dark every turn, adding in R/B/L for dual monsters) easy fight only locks Hera-Is
Dark war diety Minerva ( 1 gravity, wait for it to recharge, using quick bomb and three blue orb matches to help bring her to 50%, then use another gravity and lolcannon. Anything left over you should be able to quickbomb). The goal is to go into Hera-ur with 1 gravity and charging the other one and Luci.
Hera-ur, gravity and charge all three burst damages on the red portion. Attack her down to 50% pop the two gravities and then Luci cannon. Dead Hera-ur.
Takes forever but it's safe
Now with my own Luci, I think I might ditch the Drawn Joker and switch in the Luci. I never really used his skill (it's not skilled up either). However you have to heal up really quickly when you have those 1 hp turns. Drawn joker could add heal orbs, but the extra Luci cannon would considerably speed up the run.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Lucifer? I'd bet money that he won't. He's already (arguably) the best monster in the game.
Horus? The only thing they'd do is give him a sub-element (which I would guess to be red). But even then, Horus is up there as one of the best monsters in the game and doesn't need one.
As much as GungHo trolls us and creates these super monsters, I do think that part of their agenda includes creating more options for players. The Awakening system can already been seen to bring less than stellar monsters out into the playing field (with skill reductions, +orbs, etc). Bastet is a great example of a monster that REALLY needed some help...The change to her active has made her go from "I will never use her" to "I need to +297 super max her!".
I also thing GungHo realizes the game is TOO focused on Luci, Horus, Ra, and Kirin. That's like, 4 of 600+ monsters? While they aren't aiming to make EVERY monster viable leads and subs, I think they're trying to allow more people to build teams capable of harder content. The introduction of Knight busty evos is another great example of this.
Really depends on if you're talking starter vs end game.
Starter, nothing beats Lucifer. Its literally Lucifer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else.
End game though I would put Lucifer at the end of the top tier list. If I had to choose one God to have from that list, Lucifer would be the one I would want least(Well except Bastet). Lucifer makes 95 percent of the game easy. The problem is that I already can beat 94% of that.
Also those swordsman and to dragon buffs are insane, especially Farlio. Its is now a must have character in Healer team.
Cosmo Clock 21
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nicoga3000
Saint Nic
What's the typical Kirin team? I've got a pile of Super King Rubies that need feeding.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Kirin/Valk/Verche/Echidna/Sieg is the prototypical one.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I feel like maxing my Echidna may be a waste...I want to, but...Her stat growth.
I feel like maxing my Echidna may be a waste...I want to, but...Her stat growth.
I get a lot of use out of my almost max skilled level 66 Echidna but her stat growth is terrible. I would need about 1.5 million more xp to max her and would only gain 204 hp, 124 atk, and 61 rcv. I would rather use the xp on something else.
I feel like maxing my Echidna may be a waste...I want to, but...Her stat growth.
Hera Ur, Red Giant Gigas, Fire Samurai Dragon, Goemon, all those are also good for a Kirin team seeing their stats growth but personally most of the time, i'm using red as a sub color on Sieg... I basically go with Valk/Sieg so i have all 4 colors in 2 subs, and randomly pick the 2 last subs depending on needs (echidna/viper if delay, strong elements vs a boss, gravities, etc...).
Gracias. Everyone in this thread is very helpful. Thanks!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Yeah, mine is 74 with like, 50 +eggs. She's fantastic for what she is, but that extra XP isn't worth it.
I don't have the masks to evo Hera-Ur yet. I ended up pumping my Kirin to 50 or so. I figured that's a start.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
I got "Cu Chulain" on my rare egg roll thing. Is this good?
MMBosstones86
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hes an evolved highlander who drops from Two Heroes Descended dungeon. Max and Busty....he's pretty great with an incredibly useful active skill.
Now you just need a Berserk from Two Heroes and you don't need to run it anymore!
Tonner Cyn
Member
He is a great sub on many teams and is even used as a leader once you get his busty evolution. Still, he is not an awesomely great REM pull as he is farmable (in today's special dungeon actually).
Me too finally *bro fist*
Now I only need a billion porings to skill him and my old siegfried up. And finish off the annoying Enchilada last skill up later on.
I could see Lucifer and Horus getting sub monster typing (Lucifer God/Devil, Horus God/Balanced) or something along those lines. I doubt Lucifer is getting any stat boosts or abilities though. Like you said, his move is already strong.
As for Gungho's balancing act, I think they've done a good job making more monsters useful with the Ultimate forms. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the Healer girls next. The monsters that need the most help though are the non starter/gift dragons. Overall they either need stronger mass attacks to be worth the long cool downs or faster cool downs.
atlantaguy
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Not sure how I feel about Bastet's upgrade. On the one hand her skill is possible on almost any board, certainly more than Horus, and there's the option to use lower multipliers. On the other hand Horus's skill is much easier to activate 4x with. I can just image needing as much damage as possible and "only" pulling off a 6 combo. A part of me wants to get and try her out, but I wouldn't even think about feeding her my +297 Horus.
GloomyHitsuji
Member
OMG, so cuteee!
Time to use those stones that I've been saving up
Time to use those stones that I've been saving up
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Is that a Monster Hunter collab? Those look like the cats, haha.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Yeah it's a collab with Airu Bazaar, the other half of the Capcpom collab along with Dragon's Dogma Quest.
Their leaderskills are mostly 50%/55% damage reducers, but have some interesting actives:
2x attacker type atk for 1 turn
1.2x balanced type atk for 5 turns
25% damage reduction for 6 turns
2x healer type atk for 1 turn
2x balanced type atk for 1 turn
2x physical type atk for 1 turn
1.5x fire and dark atk for 1 turn
1.5x wood and light atk for 1 turn
1.2x dragon type atk for 5 turns
1.2x rcv for 6 turns
Or if you're running descended. Hera-Is, Echidna, Valk, Verche.
I feel like maxing my Echidna may be a waste...I want to, but...Her stat growth.
Going from 74 to 99 is not that difficult and is nowhere near the 5mil god curve. You gain almost 100 atk. Compounded by 25x bonus of Kirin after 8 match combo... that's a lot of damage you're leaving off the table. Every stat counts.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
The Bastet only player in JP appears to be happy about her new buffs:
Can you have the Japanese version of PAD running side by side with the English version? I'm sick of waiting for content and double the iphone fun would be nice.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Thanks for the advice. I don't really feel like sitting here and restarting the app a bunch so I think I'll keep it.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Yes it is what I do in fact. It also helpfully has a different name (PAD vs P&D) so you know which is which.
If you are on Android and are rooted you need to disable root, and maybe set your time zone to Japan time before booting JP PAD. You can set up a script to do that.
GloomyHitsuji
Member
lol, they should sub in King Shynee, I wanna see some 48x action
Oh, and forgot, 5 awoken Bastet = (extra 2.5sec orb time) + 5 Wood Enhance ability (10%+ each)
That's... a lot of damage
That's actually fun to think about. Are there any other (arguably) viable 6-of teams?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
6x Lucifer = 82k HP with 20k heal. Hahaha
atlantaguy
Member
Tubegameplayer did a Hera-Is run with a team of 6 Hera-Is. It was pretty crazy.
6 goemon!!
When we get Awoken skills this will become more of an option since awoken skills stack (example, 6 Anubis = 3 more seconds of orb movement time).
I'm interested to see what stacking 4 Satan a vamp and cdk could do with full awoken skills. Satan when fully awoken gets 30% damage boost to dark when clearing a full row. What happens if you have 4 on your team and do it 10 times? Even if it caps at 30% for each Satan that would be 120% damage boost.
BladeoftheImmortal
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This thread was on the second page. That saddened me greatly.
darkmatter16
Banned
does anyone have an Isis I can use for some weekend dungeon farming
ID is 351,461,270
usually have Voice of God Metatron, Isis, and Persephone up and im pretty active if anyone needs those also
ID is 351,461,270
usually have Voice of God Metatron, Isis, and Persephone up and im pretty active if anyone needs those also
Invite sent ID 395 479 208
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Will i be able to beat the master version of poring tower?
Yeah, it should be alright for you, with either dark or red. Watch out for floors with 3 demons, they hit hard and have high defense. The porings are mostly weak, but manage your HP, especially around the green one who takes several turns to peck away at. If you aren't confident you can heal 12k every 3 turns, you might struggle on Mastering, but well-timed Echidna or Rainbow Keepers will help there.
Ok here is my monster box. Since I pulled a lucifer in the beginning I want a mono dark team. As you can see I'm not super leveled but ill take any suggestions
https://db.tt/oRXMnj7E
https://db.tt/oRXMnj7E
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