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Puzzle & Dragons |OT3| Come for the rolls, stay for the trolls
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Whitelines
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I love that artwork
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Download PadGuide. It will list all the urgent dungeons for the day and can remind you when they start. I'm not ashamed to say I stayed up till midnight last week to run tamadra spotted. Also helps by telling you how much stamina you'll get before an event starts.
ActStriker
Member
PCGF rolls:
Kushinadahime (dupe) - is a dupe Kushi even worth it?
Sarasvati
Saria
Masamune
I was an idiot and blew some stones on the Eva REM that could've been used here.
I can probably grind out another roll by tomorrow.
Kushinadahime (dupe) - is a dupe Kushi even worth it?
Sarasvati
Saria
Masamune
I was an idiot and blew some stones on the Eva REM that could've been used here.
I can probably grind out another roll by tomorrow.
Very Mixed results with my Rolls. Lots of good rolls that are trolls.
1. Fuma - Not bad, 2nd most wanted ninja after Hanzo.
2. Sakuya - Worst God dupe to have. Maybe it'll win a voting contest again.
3. Liu Bei - Hell yes, one of my most wanted rolls. Makes my Verdandi team useable.
4. Kano - Ehh Dupe, 3000 MP.
5. Bastet - Hell yes, with Liu Bei, this was my most wanted green leader.
6. Gamble Mage - 3000 MP, this may be the worst REM roll in the game.
7. Bastet - Not as excited this time. This maybe be worst God dupe in the game.
8. Nut - Nice, good sub but no blue leader, kinda ironic since I max skilled her skill up monster on Saturday.
9. Orochi - God sub but still no decent Blue Leader.
10. D Kali - Great roll that I don't need. Don't have Ra.
11. Sun Quan - Good dupe to have. With the branching/possible awoken. Plus a partner to skill up for Nut.
12. Nut - No idea what to use the first one for so no idea what to use the 2nd for.
13. Alfecca - Looks like a great water sub. Too bad no water leaders.
14. Vishnu - Hell yes, With Bastet, Liu Bei, Vishu, Verdandi. I went from green being my worst color to being one of my best. To bad Artemis have such terrible synergy with them.
Pretty good rolls but the
Bastet - Liu Beu - Vishu (plus already having Verdandi) combo makes it a great god fest, Plus my blue team is literally waiting to become awesome with a good blue leader.
1. Fuma - Not bad, 2nd most wanted ninja after Hanzo.
2. Sakuya - Worst God dupe to have. Maybe it'll win a voting contest again.
3. Liu Bei - Hell yes, one of my most wanted rolls. Makes my Verdandi team useable.
4. Kano - Ehh Dupe, 3000 MP.
5. Bastet - Hell yes, with Liu Bei, this was my most wanted green leader.
6. Gamble Mage - 3000 MP, this may be the worst REM roll in the game.
7. Bastet - Not as excited this time. This maybe be worst God dupe in the game.
8. Nut - Nice, good sub but no blue leader, kinda ironic since I max skilled her skill up monster on Saturday.
9. Orochi - God sub but still no decent Blue Leader.
10. D Kali - Great roll that I don't need. Don't have Ra.
11. Sun Quan - Good dupe to have. With the branching/possible awoken. Plus a partner to skill up for Nut.
12. Nut - No idea what to use the first one for so no idea what to use the 2nd for.
13. Alfecca - Looks like a great water sub. Too bad no water leaders.
14. Vishnu - Hell yes, With Bastet, Liu Bei, Vishu, Verdandi. I went from green being my worst color to being one of my best. To bad Artemis have such terrible synergy with them.
Pretty good rolls but the
Bastet - Liu Beu - Vishu (plus already having Verdandi) combo makes it a great god fest, Plus my blue team is literally waiting to become awesome with a good blue leader.
I used my last 5 stones to roll the FotNS REM and got Raoh which is great, only Yuria is a better pull. Now I need to skill him up. How often does his skillup material drop from the final boss?
I don't like skillups that aren't guaranteed drops, I just went 5/27 on Misato (still need 2 more skillups) over the last event and the Misato tama did not drop that much for me (I went 1/10 and 2/10 a few times for the only tama I wanted).
I don't like skillups that aren't guaranteed drops, I just went 5/27 on Misato (still need 2 more skillups) over the last event and the Misato tama did not drop that much for me (I went 1/10 and 2/10 a few times for the only tama I wanted).
A. Shiva doesn't need much in the way of full board changes. Heartbreak and single or double color orb changes are usually enough; I'm running R.Valk/Kagutsuchi/Cao Cao/X on my Shiva squad and it's working fine. Dropped Sonia from that squad a while back as her awakenings don't do much for a TPA-focused team.
One thing with Shiva is that he can actually use Verdandi for a board refresh as well; Urd hits a little harder but Verd still gives a decent board and actually brings more RCV. That is, of course, if you've got a Verdandi.
As far as worthwhile red subs go, I have Cao Cao, Kagutsuchi, Yamato, Set, and Ares. I didn't even think about using Verdandi.
Imo I think Ronia is good enough for the job, Urd, and Leilan are better.
Verdandi is an interesting choice but is rcv really that much of a problem to choose Verdandi over Urd for Shiva? I can see that advantage over Ronia because she make hearts.
Freyr/Raoh Scarlet system beating Arena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdngcULq6eA
A more balance team clear with full board changer and bind clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmss6xxKlLw
double Raoh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cKy6ejY-A
Verdandi is an interesting choice but is rcv really that much of a problem to choose Verdandi over Urd for Shiva? I can see that advantage over Ronia because she make hearts.
I think he is pretty good searched for an arena clear and saw this
Freyr/Raoh Scarlet system beating Arena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdngcULq6eA
A more balance team clear with full board changer and bind clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmss6xxKlLw
double Raoh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cKy6ejY-A
I would say you should always be running a full board change on your main team. Eventually, you're going to want to run a dungeon that hits you with a full change like Beelzebub and you 100% need the counter.
As for Ronia being good enough, she definitely works. Urd and Leilan are more ideal because the 3-orb board allows more combos and their Awakenings do more for Shiva, but Ronia is an acceptable substitute.
Not optimal but works in a pinch. The RCV thing is more a "hey, silver lining to a sub-optimal choice" than anything. There are a few other small benefits but not much that would actually make her better than Urd, skill level and + eggs being equal.
Situationally it's not a bad idea for certain dungeons, e.g. Zeus and Hera, where Shiva can have a hard time with Neptune's stage normally but a green-primary card getting 20.25x can do work.
I'd agree 100%, just saying Shiva's pretty capable of dealing with lots of stuff without Urd being a 100% required sub. The "X" in my list of subs is 99% Urd.
Norns are perfectly fine when off color. My ShivDra teams both use Urd substitutes.
Ronia is also fine for A.Shiva, but brings a little more risk of orb troll. Not that other changers don't have this issue, but Sonia boards are hard to combine with another orb change to fix. And Ronia lacks a skill bind resist so you have to cover it with the other subs.
Ronia is also fine for A.Shiva, but brings a little more risk of orb troll. Not that other changers don't have this issue, but Sonia boards are hard to combine with another orb change to fix. And Ronia lacks a skill bind resist so you have to cover it with the other subs.
smbu2000
Member
Max skilled Lum and Aladdin on my iPhone. Now I just need UshiTora and Alibaba (1 left on each.)
FINALLY finished off my A.Isis, so she is now hyper. Those ATK eggs took so freaking long to get. Now my A.Ra/Halloween Kali/LKali x2/A.Isis team is all hyper. Yay!
Just bought Yomi Dragon on both of my accounts. Doing decently at leveling him up and fed him an off color snowglobe. Now I just need to collect and evo his evo mats.
Started farming Kanetsugu from the Challenge Descends (now that it's 10x descends.) It's really nice. You get 6 or 7 drops, one can be a plus egg or not (the cat drops are regular, but the goblins are plus) and the pre boss character sometimes drops and sometimes doesn't. Sakuya invades as well, so I've picked up some light jewels as well. It's also available all the time since it is in the Challenge Descends. Exp is also nice at 28k-29k, plus it's easy to farm.
Well I got the 700 day bonus on my iPad and pulled twice: 1 silver and Satsuki! (#3). Another Satsuki? It was a pain max skilling the other two...Should I do #3? They'd be nice for my Yomi Dragon team, if only they were gods...
FINALLY finished off my A.Isis, so she is now hyper. Those ATK eggs took so freaking long to get. Now my A.Ra/Halloween Kali/LKali x2/A.Isis team is all hyper. Yay!
Just bought Yomi Dragon on both of my accounts. Doing decently at leveling him up and fed him an off color snowglobe. Now I just need to collect and evo his evo mats.
Started farming Kanetsugu from the Challenge Descends (now that it's 10x descends.) It's really nice. You get 6 or 7 drops, one can be a plus egg or not (the cat drops are regular, but the goblins are plus) and the pre boss character sometimes drops and sometimes doesn't. Sakuya invades as well, so I've picked up some light jewels as well. It's also available all the time since it is in the Challenge Descends. Exp is also nice at 28k-29k, plus it's easy to farm.
Well I got the 700 day bonus on my iPad and pulled twice: 1 silver and Satsuki! (#3). Another Satsuki? It was a pain max skilling the other two...Should I do #3? They'd be nice for my Yomi Dragon team, if only they were gods...
PenguinPoacher
Member
I started playing about two months ago and am working on a Bastet team currently. I did a bunch of pulls this godfest and was looking for some advice like other teams I could work on or which monsters I could reliably sell for MP. I have 4 MeiMeis and 3 Bastets, could I sell a few of those or keep them? Thanks for any help guys.
https://www.padherder.com/user/PenguinPoacher/monsters
https://www.padherder.com/user/PenguinPoacher/monsters
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Woah, you have 4 meimeis and Zuoh? That's the Meimei system, Zouh as lead and all meimei subs. I don't know how that compares to some of the other end game teams you could build with your box. I think you can sell dupe Bastets since you only need the awoken version and you'd never need 2 as subs on any team. Ra and Sakuya are also end game teams, Awoken Shiva is awesome as well. You could make an LKali team but you have better options. If I was you'd I'd work on Bastet, then maybe see how good the meimei system is. I don't really know much about it, but I see it mentioned a lot. Definitely don't sell your meimei dupes.
Here's a vid I saw of the meimei system. https://youtu.be/CQZoT1IG1dQ Looks brain dead simple, but those are all hypermaxed. It'd take a long time to get there I'd imagine. Still pretty cool.
PenguinPoacher
Member
Thanks for the help, I'll focus on Bastet and work on my meimeis while I do that.
The amount of effort to evolve, max skill and plus egg a Zuoh system team is probably better spent on an actual endgame team. Zuoh is strong for older content, but struggles against skill bind, can't handle new dungeons well and will be fairly outdated by the time you get it all up to speed. You have a near perfect Bastet setup with MeiMei, Verdandi, Vishnu, and a flex spot for something like Liu Bei or Kushi. Also have decent options in most other colors, so feel free to go a different route if you choose.
smbu2000
Member
So to pick up MP for my Yomi Dragon I sold off Urd #3 and Verdandi #3 on my iPhone. I rolled a few times during the PCGF and what do I pick up? Another Urd and Verdandi, hahaha. I'll probably keep them like that until I want to buy something else from the MP Shop. 15k MP each, not bad.
I also picked up Sanada Yukimura (looks nice for a Raoh team although his skill up dungeon just finished) and Haku #2. Definitely happy about getting her as she will be great on my Yomi Dragon team. My first one is a max skilled A.Haku who I will give plus eggs to after I finish Yomi Dragon. Luckily I had already evo'd a Zhou Yu in anticipation of making A.Sakuya, but I'll use him on Haku now
edit: Played Dragon Rush several times on my iPad trying to get the evo Zaerog drop and only coins dropped. Tried it once on my iPhone and got the drop. I need a uevo Zaerog to uevo Yomi Dragon.
I also picked up Sanada Yukimura (looks nice for a Raoh team although his skill up dungeon just finished) and Haku #2. Definitely happy about getting her as she will be great on my Yomi Dragon team. My first one is a max skilled A.Haku who I will give plus eggs to after I finish Yomi Dragon. Luckily I had already evo'd a Zhou Yu in anticipation of making A.Sakuya, but I'll use him on Haku now
edit: Played Dragon Rush several times on my iPad trying to get the evo Zaerog drop and only coins dropped. Tried it once on my iPhone and got the drop. I need a uevo Zaerog to uevo Yomi Dragon.
PenguinPoacher
Member
Which of the descended dungeon challenges would be easiest to try first? Does it go from bottom to top easiest to hardest?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Generally speaking yes. This current set of challenge dungeons is a bit harder than normal though, so don't be discouraged if you fail on the first one.
1 more pull on JP account
Karin
Not top of my list, but not a bad pull at all. Might be worth it to make a Ryune squad for farming now. I'm thinking
Ryune/Awoken I&I/Karin/Water Cyber Dragon/Sumire/Awoken I&I
It's far from an ideal squad, I could really use some quick orb changes, but it might be worthy for a good farm setup.
2 more on my US account
Water Cyberdragon
Haku
Finally got a Haku! Not my biggest white whale right now, but I'm happy to see her. Is it worth it to put together an A. Yomi squad with 1 Haku? I'm thinking of going
Yomi/Haku/Z8/D.Iza/?/?/Yomi
I have a lot of things that could fit in the 2 ? slots. I could get another Z8. I could use D. Kali, but she doesn't seem all that awesome for Yomi squads. Okuninushi is always an option. I could also move Persephone to D/G, but I'd have to take her off my Devil squad in that case. Not that big of a loss, but still a negative.
Karin
Not top of my list, but not a bad pull at all. Might be worth it to make a Ryune squad for farming now. I'm thinking
Ryune/Awoken I&I/Karin/Water Cyber Dragon/Sumire/Awoken I&I
It's far from an ideal squad, I could really use some quick orb changes, but it might be worthy for a good farm setup.
2 more on my US account
Water Cyberdragon
Haku
Finally got a Haku! Not my biggest white whale right now, but I'm happy to see her. Is it worth it to put together an A. Yomi squad with 1 Haku? I'm thinking of going
Yomi/Haku/Z8/D.Iza/?/?/Yomi
I have a lot of things that could fit in the 2 ? slots. I could get another Z8. I could use D. Kali, but she doesn't seem all that awesome for Yomi squads. Okuninushi is always an option. I could also move Persephone to D/G, but I'd have to take her off my Devil squad in that case. Not that big of a loss, but still a negative.
Depends heavily on the card. Kali, for instance is super useful to have in multiples. Kirin, on the other hand, really isn't. Of the cards you've got, Cao Cao and Verdandi can be very useful to have dupes of on certain squads. Yomi and Muse, not as much. Hard to say with Amon until we see what his inevitable Awoken ends up being.
Alright, mainly asking because box space is tight and I want to use stones on the pcgf while it's up and expand later.
Watched some savant board rearrangement vids and was like "I wanna do that". Started practicing and hopefully I can build a good kirin team someday.
Watched some savant board rearrangement vids and was like "I wanna do that". Started practicing and hopefully I can build a good kirin team someday.
My PAD Herder is updated with the PCGF results.
Trying to thing of different team combinations for when Urd isn't the cure all solution.
Trying to thing of different team combinations for when Urd isn't the cure all solution.
tiltnkirby
Member
We need a mecha Zeus next after this new Hera.
Progress report! 
Descended Challenge: Zaerog8, Dragon Knight and Yamato Rush down! Dragon Knight was a bitch... and dont remind me of Yamato Rush, i made the mistake and went in with a Zombie Team, after 1 Hour of Bejeweled I forgot that I can't finish off Kagutsuchi with my Luci... Another Hour later i got my last Tamadra to finish my second Yomi Dragon. Now i only need around 4.5 million xp, a shitton of dark piis and dark latents
Zaerog8:
Dragon Knight:
Yamato Rush: + Awoken Amaterasu +297
Yomigon Team for non Arena Descends:
Edit:
Newsflash!
Mecha Hera (Multiplayer!):
UUevoBelial:
Ult. Gronia:
Ult. Blonia:
Descended Challenge: Zaerog8, Dragon Knight and Yamato Rush down! Dragon Knight was a bitch... and dont remind me of Yamato Rush, i made the mistake and went in with a Zombie Team, after 1 Hour of Bejeweled I forgot that I can't finish off Kagutsuchi with my Luci... Another Hour later i got my last Tamadra to finish my second Yomi Dragon. Now i only need around 4.5 million xp, a shitton of dark piis and dark latents
Zaerog8:
Dragon Knight:
Yamato Rush: + Awoken Amaterasu +297
Yomigon Team for non Arena Descends:
Edit:
Newsflash!
Mecha Hera (Multiplayer!):
UUevoBelial:
LS: physical and devil 3x atk and 1.5x rcv
Ult. Gronia:
LS: dragon and balanced 2.5x atk and 2.5x rcv, atk increases slightly with 2 wood combos
Ult. Blonia:
LS: dragon and physical 2.5x atk and 2.5x rcv, atk increases slightly with 5 or more connected water orbs
Little Green Yoda
Member
They really should have gone all out and went with triple/quad rows at least.
atlantaguy
Member
I'm pretty happy with the Blonia ult, assuming the bonus multiplier is decent. If it's just 1.2x like Ronia I'd be a little disappointed, but I'd be OK with it.
Gronia also seems alright, but I don't have her so it doesn't really affect me.
Belial on the other hand gives me a roller coaster ride of emotions. On the one hand, stats, awakenings, and art are awesome. But the active skill staying the same is infuriating. 10 skill ups required and we don't even have access to the dungeon? Fuck that.
They should have just skipped to the awoken evo. Obviously it's unprecedented, no second uvo blah, blah, blah... But the archdemons have been shit tier for so long, and they deserve a boost back into relevance.
Gronia also seems alright, but I don't have her so it doesn't really affect me.
Belial on the other hand gives me a roller coaster ride of emotions. On the one hand, stats, awakenings, and art are awesome. But the active skill staying the same is infuriating. 10 skill ups required and we don't even have access to the dungeon? Fuck that.
They should have just skipped to the awoken evo. Obviously it's unprecedented, no second uvo blah, blah, blah... But the archdemons have been shit tier for so long, and they deserve a boost back into relevance.
We've already seen what the Awoken RGB Archdemons will look like and it isn't great. Poor Astaroth.
Such a waste that Gronia didn't get something changed to TPA so she could at least be a double. Her awakenings are all over the place. Bonia got a little better focus, and wow her leader skill qualification might as well not exist because who isn't making blue rows anyway. Both are slightly less bad as subs with the skill bind resist, but they basically got ult Ronia-ed like I feared. Not relevant.
This isn't a complaint, but does anyone else find it dumb that literally almost every Awoken or new useful card gets skill bind resist. I know it's necessary, but why even bother having the mechanic at all when you put the resist on everything. Especially when they went roundabout to hit us with skill bind in a non-resistable way with the delay.
Such a waste that Gronia didn't get something changed to TPA so she could at least be a double. Her awakenings are all over the place. Bonia got a little better focus, and wow her leader skill qualification might as well not exist because who isn't making blue rows anyway. Both are slightly less bad as subs with the skill bind resist, but they basically got ult Ronia-ed like I feared. Not relevant.
This isn't a complaint, but does anyone else find it dumb that literally almost every Awoken or new useful card gets skill bind resist. I know it's necessary, but why even bother having the mechanic at all when you put the resist on everything. Especially when they went roundabout to hit us with skill bind in a non-resistable way with the delay.
Got my fire/dark Hino Kagutsuchi evolution today. Next up is Asuka.
Been running technicals for pengdras, aside from a handful of FotNS runs. I think I'm gonna let this collab pass me by, I got a Jagi and I like that dude from the old movie, so I think I'm good. Rather work on leveling my people.
Been running technicals for pengdras, aside from a handful of FotNS runs. I think I'm gonna let this collab pass me by, I got a Jagi and I like that dude from the old movie, so I think I'm good. Rather work on leveling my people.
Just look at it from this angle:
For us seasoned players its illogical, but for new players, its sort of progression. They need those uevos OR new monster to beat certain dungeons.
Players get this "for free" and now can farm those old dungeons with their best subs, to get skill ups for the invades, orbs or just +. So they use more stamina/stones.
Then another new mechanic -> new skills -> special new gods -> skills to old gods -> etc.
Here is a post from the Puzzleanddragonsforum explaining a team for Blonia:
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/th...or-blue-and-green-sonia-ult-evos.85038/page-6