Radeon HD 7900 Launch set for December 22nd, 2011 - R1000 | Tahiti | GCN

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Suposedly, entire 77xx line will be sold only to OEM's.

Not really any loss there. Should perform in line with the 6800 series, and those will probably be available a little while after the 7000 series has hit. By the time they are dried up, the 7800 series will probably be cheap enough to recommend in place.
 
No one is saying that the 5xxx was shitty.

The point of that list was that a new architecture doesn't necessarily mean big performance or efficiency gains, so we shouldn't take it for granted that GCN will give us such gains.

The most relevant point of comparison is probably 8800 -> GTX200. That was an architectural upgrade that included a lot of consideration for GPGPU, and that is also supposed to be the case with GCN.

In that case, we know that the GTX200 and Radeon 4800 series were equivalent in performance, but the GTX200 chips were larger and used more power. So there is reason to be guarded about optimism over GCN in terms of improvements in game performance.
It's a die shrink and a new architecture though, with a bigger memory bus. Should be pretty exciting unless AMD screwed up royally.
 
Not really any loss there. Should perform in line with the 6800 series, and those will probably be available a little while after the 7000 series has hit. By the time they are dried up, the 7800 series will probably be cheap enough to recommend in place.
Screw that. How much money do we need to buy 1000 and put GAF stickers on them.
 
It's a die shrink and a new architecture though, with a bigger memory bus. Should be pretty exciting unless AMD screwed up royally.

Ding ding ding. WINRAR!

It's a triple combo deal, and we haven't had a die shrink in FOREVER. This isn't just moving to new arch from the 4xxx to the 5xxx. It's waaaaayyy bigger than that. Oh and don't undersell that memory bus bump either.
 
Ding ding ding. WINRAR!

It's a triple combo deal, and we haven't had a die shrink in FOREVER. This isn't just moving to new arch from the 4xxx to the 5xxx. It's waaaaayyy bigger than that. Oh and don't undersell that memory bus bump either.

Pretty much, this thing will be the fucking bee's knees... Until they fuck up the yields and the drivers.
 
Pretty much, this thing will be the fucking bee's knees... Until they fuck up the yields and the drivers.

Yields have been my worry ever since we knew we were moving to 28nm. I just had a feeling this thing would keep getting "delayed" (no real announcement of a date but everyone knows it's coming) because they have manufacturing problems.

I'm not AS worried about the drivers, but I can see how many would be.
 
Ding ding ding. WINRAR!

It's a triple combo deal, and we haven't had a die shrink in FOREVER. This isn't just moving to new arch from the 4xxx to the 5xxx. It's waaaaayyy bigger than that. Oh and don't undersell that memory bus bump either.
No, no, no.

We were specifically talking about new arch and some were arguing that it was a guaranteed boost, besides the increase in memory bandwidth, compute units etc. Mine and tokkun's point was new arch doesnt guarantee better performance/unit or efficiency in that sense.

Die shrink is totally a tangent to that discussion.

Btw, 5xxx was not a new arch. 5xxx is the X800 of the previous gen.
 
Does "custom resolution" mean AMD will have the option for forcing supersampling on single displays by using multiples of the monitor's resolution (instead of just using the baked in AMD supersampling option)?
 
Cant wait for the benchy's.

Reading on semi accurated forums seems the recent driver bungle up was caused due to most of the team working on drivers for GCN. The way the driver is structured now its gonna be more easier and quicker to get updates out.
 
So whats the timeframe for something comparable to a 6950/70? I am eyeing a 6970 2GB to upgrade from my relatively antique 4890 and I game on a 1080p display. How long should I wait for something new or to lower the price of current cards? A month, three, six?
 
Hmm, most of the rumors out this morning seem to suggest this beast (7970) is a lot closer to the 6990.. and can easily overclock to reach it. Obviously, don't get too excited because it's just fudzilla and a few forum dudes again..

http://fudzilla.com/graphics/item/25259-radeon-hd-7970-close-to-hd-6990

If true, I'm going to be serving crow to a lot of posters in this and the previous thread.

If not true, they'll be serving it to me. I'm betting on the former, however
 
If that eye-hemorrhaging picture is real then it's in line with what is expected I guess. I would be shocked if a 7970 wound up performing as much as 2x 6970, no not a 6990 under broken drivers condition, but two 6970s in a game that has ideal xfire support.
 
If that eye-hemorrhaging picture is real then it's in line with what is expected I guess. I would be shocked if a 7970 wound up performing as much as 2x 6970, no not a 6990 under broken drivers condition, but two 6970s in a game that has ideal xfire support.
40% faster than 580 is 6990 territory, considering 580 is 10-15% faster than the 6970 and the 6990 is 50-60% faster over a single 6970.
 
40% faster than 580 is 6990 territory, considering 580 is 10-15% faster than the 6970 and the 6990 is 50-60% faster over a single 6970.

Then I have misunderstood what kind of card the 6990 was, I thought it was essentially two 6970s ducttaped together.
 
Then I have misunderstood what kind of card the 6990 was, I thought it was essentially two 6970s ducttaped together.
Scaling gets you about ~60% not 100%. I also remember the 6990 performing closer to a 6950CF than a 6970CF, still slightly faster than the 590.
 
6990 level performance? Pffft, the real advantage is the quad-CrossFire energy savings!

I really do wonder about the € price. A 580 is still starting at 400€ plus, 6950s 220€ or more (more expensive than the ones my brother got in the summer). My 5850 is showing it's age badly in Arkham City, but I wanted to hold out for the 7000 refreshs at least AND I have to spend money on a Vita next year.
 
Multiple independant audio streams?!? F*** me im getting one. Thats perfect for me. Though i dont need that much horsepower since i game at 1080p. Right now my 6870 does fine, but anything that produces less heat, consumes less power and the INDEPENDANT AUDIO STREAMS has me sold.
 
Multiple independant audio streams?!? F*** me im getting one. Thats perfect for me. Though i dont need that much horsepower since i game at 1080p. Right now my 6870 does fine, but anything that produces less heat, consumes less power and the INDEPENDANT AUDIO STREAMS has me sold.

oooooomg you're getting me excited, though I'd like to know what independent audio streams are :(
 
oooooomg you're getting me excited, though I'd like to know what independent audio streams are :(

You can send different audio to different sources from the card. So like... music to your receiver and sound for a game to your monitor/PC audio setup.

Not really sure of any circumstances where I'd find it useful.
 
You can send different audio to different sources from the card. So like... music to your receiver and sound for a game to your monitor/PC audio setup.

Not really sure of any circumstances where I'd find it useful.


For me its perfect. I have one Pc which is my Htpc. 2 TVS, one in the bedroom and one in the living room. I can setup the secondary TV for XBMC or whatever media player for movies, music etc, do whatever, while it wont affect what im doing on the other TV(eg playing games etc) So my gf can do whatever she wants on the same pc as i can at the same time.
 
Yeah that is a pretty nice feature.
Hopefully the big reviews cover more GPU application support and see if that stuff like video conversion has improved in features and speed.
 
Y'all be eating some vegan frozen crow patties then.

ehyuck

I look forward to dishing out a nice medium-rare crow for you to work on. Will be delicious!

no, but the 7970 does sound like a beast. I hope it's not just posturing by AMD and some of this stuff we're hearing will really effect games. #REALTALK
 
ehyuck

I look forward to dishing out a nice medium-rare crow for you to work on. Will be delicious!

no, but the 7970 does sound like a beast. I hope it's not just posturing by AMD and some of this stuff we're hearing will really effect games. #REALTALK

I think you should be more guarded against Nvidia's bullshit. PhysX, anyone?
 
For me its perfect. I have one Pc which is my Htpc. 2 TVS, one in the bedroom and one in the living room. I can setup the secondary TV for XBMC or whatever media player for movies, music etc, do whatever, while it wont affect what im doing on the other TV(eg playing games etc) So my gf can do whatever she wants on the same pc as i can at the same time.

How do you connect a TV in another room? A long HDMI cable? I am thinking of hooking up my main PC to my TV for Steam and other gaming rather than building a separate HTPC. I may need to get a 20 or so foot HDMI cable and put it through a window downstairs, then back through the window upstairs as the living room TV and the PC in the office are directly above/below each other.
 
How do you connect a TV in another room? A long HDMI cable? I am thinking of hooking up my main PC to my TV for Steam and other gaming rather than building a separate HTPC. I may need to get a 20 or so foot HDMI cable and put it through a window downstairs, then back through the window upstairs as the living room TV and the PC in the office are directly above/below each other.

That's what I did, but it's not as intuitive as you'd think it would be. There's no way to easily manage two displays natively in Windows, it's a lot of manual settings and trial and error, and that's before you start dealing with audio streams. For me, having multiple audio output is gonna be awesome.
 
THe multiple audio streams seems really strange to me. You can easily just steam data to another device wirelessly and if it's something large like a video file that you need to transcode, you probably wouldn't be gaming or doing anything CPU intensive anyway.
 
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