It's not about automatically seeing everybody as good. It's simply about not automatically classifying someone as being a certain way based on a quality that's pretty unimportant. I was raised alongside people of various backgrounds and went to very diverse schools so it's a pretty easy thing for me to do.
Rapper Bobby Shmurda Has Been Arrested in New York City
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It's not about automatically seeing everybody as good. It's simply about not automatically classifying someone as being a certain way based on a quality that's pretty unimportant. I was raised alongside people of various backgrounds and went to very diverse schools so it's a pretty easy thing for me to do.
QuiteWhittle
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I'm still wondering what preconceived notions he has about African-Americans based on the works of Shmurda and related artists.
R3TRO
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Been wondering this too.
CornBurrito
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Perhaps you aren't smart enough to realize this, but you said you judged African Americans. Not individuals, but an entire fucking race.
Don't you know? Each and every black male in America listens to this type of music! No one else!
Heh, loved how he admits to many white males listening to the same type of music but yet I highly doubt his perspective on white Americans has changed too. Guess he solely talks to white people IRL and no one else.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
^ this
Ray Wonder
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I guess since I grew up around black people, and most of my best friends have been black. I can look past what music anyone listens to because I've experienced a wide range of assholes/good people of all races. Some of the best people I know listen to this music. I listen to this music. I bet you if you saw me in a grocery store you wouldn't be able to pick me out as a person who listens to rap. I'm native american/serbian, I have a big beard, wear glasses, and I have a well fit sweater with a moose on it. I've learned not to judge people, because my parents taught me that way. It's not about us being dishonest with ourselves. It's just you being judgmental.
Someone like you probably judges you in an incorrect way, everyday.
FeenixRising
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Wow this thread went the way I thought it would.
spindashing
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don't test him
That we're all such upstanding citizens in spite of our inbred affinity for savage jungle music.
Yeah, a racist view is simply "an opinion we don't agree with" -- similar to someone not agreeing with a person's game of the year choice. Nothing more. Yep, definitely similar.
Still haven't explained why your perception of African Americans has changed but not Whites even though you previously admitted to there being members of both groups who listen to this type of music.
Moral Panic
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Nah we just don't what racists derailing threads with their shitty opinions.
TheSpoiler
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Fixed that for you.
It's not about having different opinions. It's a matter of generalizing an entire race. You can freely vent your views on Stormfront. I'm sure they'll be much, much more receptive than us.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
But, how do you know that? Where are you pulling these imaginary numbers from? It might be hard for you to fathom in your mind that everyone isn't as judgmental as you. It might be easy to think, "eh these people just won't admit it, I bet they do judge people off of music and don't want to say anything".
Sometimes that's not true. I hope that most of the times, that's not true.
I have nothing against you. You're a person, you have your way of thinking. I just think your way of thinking is much more limited than you think. Maybe you, and the group of people you keep as company are like that. Leading you to believe that most people are like that.
It's the opposite for me, and the people I keep in company. To me, It seems like the majority of people don't judge people off of what music they listen to.
Dude Abides
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I also judge people who like Bobby Shmurda and his ilk.
I judge them as having terrible taste.
I judge them as having terrible taste.
Gordon Shumway
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Aren't you in a gang?
AND you're a mind reader..you are a blessing to us all, bro.
You monster!
Mass_Pincup
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QuiteWhittle
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I'm certainly judgmental about racists who freely admit their racial prejudices and, when confronted with facts and simple common sense, would rather double down and get defensive.
But I don't want you banned. I still would like to hear your opinions of the monolithic black community that wholly and absolutely embraces the rap of Shmurda and his rivals.
Haha, do you honestly think that we wouldn't find that to be a bad view to have also simply because we are commenting on the negative view you stated that you had about African Americans?
"I may be close minded but hey... these people are close minded too! Stop defending them guys!" You aren't helping your case at all. That statement just further added on to how close minded many people reading this thread currently view you. You continue to use terms that classify large groups of people when yet your statements have blatantly shown that you don't interact with nearly the same amount of people that you are grouping together... not even close.
Angelus Errare
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Any thread about hip-hop always ALWAYS brings out at least one person. Love it.
This is probably one of those times where stopping instead of doubling down would be the best thing to do.
Carnby
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Bro1 gets a strong reaction, but he continues to stand up for his beliefs. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect Bro1.
Angelus Errare
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Nah.
He has not earned my respect in anyway.
Its not easy taking that stance while there's a black president and everything you do or say has a chance of labeling you as a racist.
Gordon Shumway
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Only one person mentioned wanting you banned. Everyone else is just discussing your comments.
But you do need to realize you said something ignorant about an entire ethnic group that would offend most people who read it vs throwing out dismissive statements like "group think". If you're going to stand by those opinions that's fine, but understand that you are going to continue to get posters who disagree with you strongly.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I don't respect racist beliefs........ and the fact he keeps doubling down is why he should get banned.... but the mods are always so lenient on this fuckery compared to other assholes with horrible views. Shit I got banned for a week for a masterbation joke but saying you think badly of all black people cause of rap is worthy of further "discussion"
If I earned anybody's respect from the nonsense that goes on here then I worry about you.
I didn't say that it was the right thought but that thoughts are formed over crappy rap music or any kind of music. If you listen to ICP I am going to judge you as trash. It cuts every which way.
God Dayumm
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I am very judgmental, but this guy should not have been arrested. The US needs more lax gun and drug laws.
soundahfekz
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What is the nonsense that goes on here?
Can you elaborate on how this situation and this artists music affects your perception of African Americans?
The floor is yours man, let's hear it
Liberalism.
Funny; One of my Chemistry teachers in college admitted to sometimes listening to ICP simply because they were funny to him.
I guess you don't listen to any music then considering all genres of music have stupid stereotypes about their listeners huh?
Bluekaveli
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I always thought he was a white guy.
soundahfekz
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Who do you listen to?
I mean, we don't wanna be labeled as trash so I think we're all eagerly anticipating our road to redemption through your music choices.
Also, could you elaborate on how certain rap music has changed your opinion of African Americans. You've been asked like five times now to do so.
Gordon Shumway
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Uh oh..seems like a winning formula for a drug dealer. You're just making his point..
Judging people based off the music they listen to in general isn't a good idea, but there is a key difference in this statement and your first statement that started this thread derailment. If I listen to ICP you are going to judge ME as trash. Not my entire ethnic group. This is a lot less offensive.
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