All this RE4 playing got me motivated to play the cube RE2 port. It looks like ass by todays standard but I gotta say that the game still rocks. Leon is badass either in 5,000 polys or 200 polys. This game needs a remake pronto. Its funny though. I remeber going to a midnight EB opening just to pick up my PS copy on launch day way back when. That was the first big late night release I ever went to. Good god I'm old...
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RE2 is still the BOMB
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Naked Snake
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I bought RE2 and FFVII with my PSX (I had played RE1 on a friend's PSX), and I was playing StarCraft on PC at the time, I'll never forget that first week, good times.
Anyanka said:
YES HE IS!!! >: (
He kills snakes and steals their eggs! How much more bad ass can ou get? Actually wait! (spoiler from RE4)
The part where leon is talking to the annoying kid who's "20" or whatever, then the kid says he's got a surprise and leon just throws the knife at his hand is THE MOST BAD ASS PART (Based on how far I have progressed though, I just arrived at the island). That was just completely unexpected, and it was a great surpise
Firest0rm said:
Don't forget that Leon can actually suplex his enemies, and he's
pretty skilled in combat, as seen in the knife battle with Krauser. And what about the part when he dodges those lasers in that hallway...
Leon is definitely badass. In RE4 at least
RE2 is the only RE game that I actually enjoyed. I may end up getting RE4 at some point, but after the bitter disappointment of CV and the bowel-wrenching crapness of RE3, I'm passing for the moment. It may be the best game of all time, but you know what? Fuck you, Capcom.
BobbyRobby
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After beating RE4, I think I'm gonna pick up the Pure Evil Two-Pack, Resident Evil 2 for the Dreamcast, and Code Veronica for the PS2. Aside from the rare Gamecube ports, are hese the best versions of each game?
ButtonMasher
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I agree, RE2 is the BOMB!
RE3 is such an underrated game. I think it's much better than CV. CV drags on for too long and it's setting and villain sucks. 3 has nemesis and the cool cutscenes where you can choose how to get out of trouble. CV is the point where I started losing interest in the series, where the story became convoluted to the point where it was just silly. Yet ANOTHER virus.....
SolidSnakex
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RE3 was great. It reminded me alot of those slasher moves. Where no matter how far you thought you were away from him he'd still pop up near you. The RE4 they showed on the GC originally looked like it was going to go down the same path with the hook guy.
I think the original RE is still the most underrated in the series.
I think the original RE is still the most underrated in the series.
ArcadeStickMonk
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Heh, I was just showing Dark10x Zero the other night. He's fresh off of multiple RE4 playthroughs and he was like "What the hell is this? You can't get off the train? There's a window right there! Fucking dogs smashed through windows two rooms back, c'mon!"
I was goading him down that road a bit, but really, when you're on a moving train and a giant scorpian crashes through the ceiling, what's to defend? That arachnid is on the case spine too, they're fucking proud of that moment.
It's some serious critical megaman mass.
I was goading him down that road a bit, but really, when you're on a moving train and a giant scorpian crashes through the ceiling, what's to defend? That arachnid is on the case spine too, they're fucking proud of that moment.
It's some serious critical megaman mass.
ArcadeStickMonk
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C'mon, man. As a supposed member of the Survival Horror genre, yes it was lacking. Too easy and too much ammo. But everything else was just so damn good. I've yet to play RE4 (even reading this thread is treading closer to spoilers than I typically like), but out of the rest of the series, I think CV had the best plot and presentation. I feel RE2 and REmake are the best of the core survival horror series, but CV is certainly something special and certainly not lame.Anyanka said:
Z
zylo
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RE2 was the best until I played and beat RE4. Seriously after this game it's really hard for me to go back to the older ones.
Crazymoogle
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Desert Eagle .50 calibre AE > all
Damn I loved that gun in RE2.
Damn I loved that gun in RE2.
Yeah RE2 was definetly the best of the alone in the dark knockoffs, I really think I prefer this newer game though, it's almost as though this is what RE should have been from the get go , too bad it took em 5 games that were practically identical to figure that out.
Resident Evil 0- By this point I'd lost interest in the series, it just wasn't very good despite trying a few things differently I still felt as though I'd played 'this' game too many times.
Resident Evil 1 PSX - The original RE wasn't a very good game in alot of ways production wise but the gameplay and setting took a less popular franchise from another developer and made it something better .. unfortunatly it screamed so much 3DO in its FMV cinematics that its hard to go back to it.
Resident Evil Gamecube - This removed almost all of the 3D0 and added the finer gameplay quirkcs from the latter games in the series such as the 360 turn , it was a worthwhile addition to the series and between the graphics and added rooms was definetly worth playing even for RE veterens.
Resident Evil 2- Compared to the original PSX Resident evil game this is fantastic, the number of zombies on screen doubled , the weapons were better and the way the story unfolds is still the best done in the series. I mean who can forget Mr. X ? or the first time you see a licker , the G virus tyrant through its many stages of evolution. The games only sticking point is that whereas the first one had the mansion and a few scattered mildly dumb puzzles, the second one had incredibly stupid puzzle designs , I mean you were in a police station yet it was basically set up like the mansion ? and the excuse was that the police cheif was CRRRAAZY ? Other then that though the game is the tits, in its PSone format though the CG videos haven't held up well at all, even at the time I thought CG leon looked like a downs sydrome sufferer. His chin is modeled way to large.
Resident Evil 3- As far as I'm concerned RE 3 is a case of 1 small step forward and 2 leaps backwards. Recall MR. X in RE2 , who has numerous SCRIPTED yet still effective appearances. Well in RE3 capcom decided a foe like that should chase you through the entire game , why ? idono becuase its scary I guess ? Nemesis lost most of his impact after the 13th time he came bursting down a hallway at me, and his personal slogan became more a case of "ugh not again" then "Oh no! my pants are filled with shit". RE3 marked 2 improvements though- the 360 turn was introduced and now 10 zombies could run around on screen at once, it's just a shame that the story should have been Resident Evil 2.5 , Racoon city was even worse then the police station for poor puzzle design and they're wasn't as many cool boss fights, I might also add that the final boss this time around was really lame instead of cool like the last games were. The game obviously knew it was more of a Zombie killing tech demo becuase after you finish it you can play Mercs, a mini game where you run around the games maps and do nothing but kill stuff until you die or run out of time , it was also done I think because this was the shortest RE game and easiest . Also it had no second character, no B scenario. Basically it took the series in a direction I didn't like.
Resident evil Code Veronica- The reason I bought a dreamcast back in the day, if you coldn't have guessed from the above rant, I found Code Veronica much better then Nemesis, The fully 3D engine, the more traditional gameplay, 2 characters , interesting boss fights returned , Also Really nice CG movies. The puzzles in this one actually almost worked in context to the notes left in the game and the fact that you actually see the antogonists for more then 10 seconds in this one so you KNOW they are crazy. I thought throwing wesker in the game was a cool idea as well, the banders while neat enemies are no lickers though so despite all its additions I still think RE2 was a better title overall.
Resident Evil Extra game crap- Both Dead Aim titles, the gameboy color game and other junk like that, I don't consider any of it valid series stuff, never did play any of them, Surviver especially is supposed to be really bad so I stayed far away from it.
Finally RE4- This managed to take the best points of Code veronica and the couple of good things about RE3 and stole liberally some good ideas of other titles to make it the best Resident evil experience yet. The puzzle element which was typically really bad to begin with has been toned down, you don't ever reallyhave to backtrack in this game , it's nice and long (twice the length of any previous RE title) ,The bosses are amazing , and mostly the new camera angle and inventory system coupled with buying weapons as you play just make the game the best culmination of the series best points. The complaints are minor and few with this one- it's stretching it a bit but up until the first boss fight I agreed with Anyaka completly, it didn't quite feel like a resident evil game but when its all said and done it definetly did the job.
Bring on RE5 Capcom! Take 2 years + if you have to , make it as good as 4. In meantime remake RE2 and 3 as one game and fix all th eproblems of both.
Resident Evil 0- By this point I'd lost interest in the series, it just wasn't very good despite trying a few things differently I still felt as though I'd played 'this' game too many times.
Resident Evil 1 PSX - The original RE wasn't a very good game in alot of ways production wise but the gameplay and setting took a less popular franchise from another developer and made it something better .. unfortunatly it screamed so much 3DO in its FMV cinematics that its hard to go back to it.
Resident Evil Gamecube - This removed almost all of the 3D0 and added the finer gameplay quirkcs from the latter games in the series such as the 360 turn , it was a worthwhile addition to the series and between the graphics and added rooms was definetly worth playing even for RE veterens.
Resident Evil 2- Compared to the original PSX Resident evil game this is fantastic, the number of zombies on screen doubled , the weapons were better and the way the story unfolds is still the best done in the series. I mean who can forget Mr. X ? or the first time you see a licker , the G virus tyrant through its many stages of evolution. The games only sticking point is that whereas the first one had the mansion and a few scattered mildly dumb puzzles, the second one had incredibly stupid puzzle designs , I mean you were in a police station yet it was basically set up like the mansion ? and the excuse was that the police cheif was CRRRAAZY ? Other then that though the game is the tits, in its PSone format though the CG videos haven't held up well at all, even at the time I thought CG leon looked like a downs sydrome sufferer. His chin is modeled way to large.
Resident Evil 3- As far as I'm concerned RE 3 is a case of 1 small step forward and 2 leaps backwards. Recall MR. X in RE2 , who has numerous SCRIPTED yet still effective appearances. Well in RE3 capcom decided a foe like that should chase you through the entire game , why ? idono becuase its scary I guess ? Nemesis lost most of his impact after the 13th time he came bursting down a hallway at me, and his personal slogan became more a case of "ugh not again" then "Oh no! my pants are filled with shit". RE3 marked 2 improvements though- the 360 turn was introduced and now 10 zombies could run around on screen at once, it's just a shame that the story should have been Resident Evil 2.5 , Racoon city was even worse then the police station for poor puzzle design and they're wasn't as many cool boss fights, I might also add that the final boss this time around was really lame instead of cool like the last games were. The game obviously knew it was more of a Zombie killing tech demo becuase after you finish it you can play Mercs, a mini game where you run around the games maps and do nothing but kill stuff until you die or run out of time , it was also done I think because this was the shortest RE game and easiest . Also it had no second character, no B scenario. Basically it took the series in a direction I didn't like.
Resident evil Code Veronica- The reason I bought a dreamcast back in the day, if you coldn't have guessed from the above rant, I found Code Veronica much better then Nemesis, The fully 3D engine, the more traditional gameplay, 2 characters , interesting boss fights returned , Also Really nice CG movies. The puzzles in this one actually almost worked in context to the notes left in the game and the fact that you actually see the antogonists for more then 10 seconds in this one so you KNOW they are crazy. I thought throwing wesker in the game was a cool idea as well, the banders while neat enemies are no lickers though so despite all its additions I still think RE2 was a better title overall.
Resident Evil Extra game crap- Both Dead Aim titles, the gameboy color game and other junk like that, I don't consider any of it valid series stuff, never did play any of them, Surviver especially is supposed to be really bad so I stayed far away from it.
Finally RE4- This managed to take the best points of Code veronica and the couple of good things about RE3 and stole liberally some good ideas of other titles to make it the best Resident evil experience yet. The puzzle element which was typically really bad to begin with has been toned down, you don't ever reallyhave to backtrack in this game , it's nice and long (twice the length of any previous RE title) ,The bosses are amazing , and mostly the new camera angle and inventory system coupled with buying weapons as you play just make the game the best culmination of the series best points. The complaints are minor and few with this one- it's stretching it a bit but up until the first boss fight I agreed with Anyaka completly, it didn't quite feel like a resident evil game but when its all said and done it definetly did the job.
Bring on RE5 Capcom! Take 2 years + if you have to , make it as good as 4. In meantime remake RE2 and 3 as one game and fix all th eproblems of both.
ImNotLikeThem
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having never played a single one of these, do any of them add anything to the "expanded" storyline at all? obviously they are all supposed to be side stories and the like, but would i benefit in any way by playing any of these?CVXFREAK said:
Aika'svyse
Banned
Played 3 before 2 and like couldn't even get in to 2 after playing 3
CV is the Apex of residentevildom, although I have yet to play 4
CV is the Apex of residentevildom, although I have yet to play 4
norinrad21
Banned
I dont think i can ever go back to playing any RE game after playing RE4
Loki said:
Yeah, they had some neat ideas going on there. I remember thinking that since the backgrounds are pre-rendered, they can never be manipulated in any greater way. So because of that, I always felt safe with no visible enemies around. But all of a sudden, the whole fucking wall breaks down and my no 1 fear is standing right next to me. :lol
RECV's story is just so lame. It is the game where the mythos started to get stupid. The whole Ashford family thing makes no sense and did nothing to help the story, it only made it even goofier. I hate how in the first 3 games Umbrella is a serious, realistic enemy but as the games progressed they kept adding these bizarre Bond villain like characters to it. A crazy cross dressing chicken-wuss and a robe wearing, leech loving dead guy are two of the players at Umbrella. WTF? None of that silly crap fits with the tone established in the PSX games. Capcom is also way too obsessed with plot twists, retcons and swerves. Like every two seconds they reveal that it was actually someboy else or some other virus that was behind everything from the beginning. It's so confusing you can't keep track of who owns what part of Umbrella or which virus does what. The worst part about the story is that it all seems irrelevant in the end. Besides Chris and Claire reuniting and Wesker's return nothing much has changed once it's all over. You're right back where you started..."omg its time to finish off umbrella for good~!". It's funny how after like 6 years of every RE ending like that they finally kill off Umbrella.....by having their stock get sold.
And I HATE the Bandersnatches. They're so cheap! The only thing worse is the one hit kills baddies in RE4.
Oh, and speaking of goofy villains...that pirate looking midget that owns the castle in RE4 is the worst. He completely kills the mood of the game when he appears.
And I HATE the Bandersnatches. They're so cheap! The only thing worse is the one hit kills baddies in RE4.
Oh, and speaking of goofy villains...that pirate looking midget that owns the castle in RE4 is the worst. He completely kills the mood of the game when he appears.
My, bear in mind that I have yet to play RE 4 since I'm waiting for the PAL release, favourites are, RE 2 > REmake > RE 3 > RE 0 > RE CVX > RE 1 > All the other REs.
Resident Evil 2 is just an amazing experience, and to this day still contains my favourite locations/moments/creatures in the series. Splendid stuff. I can't forget the soundtrack either. Everything about it (bar graphics and acting right now), is just classic. My favourite of the series and one of my fave games ever!
REmake was an amazing remake of the classic, with a great creepy atmosphere and is still probably the scariest in the series. Great locations aswell, I thought the lab was amazing and Lisa Trevor was a nice touch. Great back story to her.
Resident Evil 3 worthy prequel/sequel to RE 2, while not as good, really the most action packed, and it was very fun. I LOVED Nemesis, one of my favourite enemies of the series. I loved the Urban backdrop aswell, really reminded me of many zombie movies.
Resident Evil Zero, I just completed for the 2nd time, while fun it shows that the series has started to age, and the backtracking and whatnot started to get tedious after a while. I'm not going to even start on the part that's after the Church. Good game, worthy of the series but pretty short, even shorter than REmake if I'm not mistaken.
Resident Evil Code Veronica X, really dissapointed with that. I thought the story was pure crap, Alfred/Alexia were crappy villains, Steve and Claire were whiney as hell but it did have many redeeming qualities. Some good locations like Antartica, Wesker of course, and the eery feel that it has. Definitely my least fave of all the next-gen RE titles (bar spin offs of course).
Resident Evil, I can't play this anymore, when I go back to it, I notice the horrible cheesy dialogue, twitchy acting (although these things are good for providing a laugh), horrible pre-rendered locations compared to the REmake and much more. I consider the remake to be the definitive version however this was definitely amazing for it's time.
Bring on RE 4!
Resident Evil 2 is just an amazing experience, and to this day still contains my favourite locations/moments/creatures in the series. Splendid stuff. I can't forget the soundtrack either. Everything about it (bar graphics and acting right now), is just classic. My favourite of the series and one of my fave games ever!
REmake was an amazing remake of the classic, with a great creepy atmosphere and is still probably the scariest in the series. Great locations aswell, I thought the lab was amazing and Lisa Trevor was a nice touch. Great back story to her.
Resident Evil 3 worthy prequel/sequel to RE 2, while not as good, really the most action packed, and it was very fun. I LOVED Nemesis, one of my favourite enemies of the series. I loved the Urban backdrop aswell, really reminded me of many zombie movies.
Resident Evil Zero, I just completed for the 2nd time, while fun it shows that the series has started to age, and the backtracking and whatnot started to get tedious after a while. I'm not going to even start on the part that's after the Church. Good game, worthy of the series but pretty short, even shorter than REmake if I'm not mistaken.
Resident Evil Code Veronica X, really dissapointed with that. I thought the story was pure crap, Alfred/Alexia were crappy villains, Steve and Claire were whiney as hell but it did have many redeeming qualities. Some good locations like Antartica, Wesker of course, and the eery feel that it has. Definitely my least fave of all the next-gen RE titles (bar spin offs of course).
Resident Evil, I can't play this anymore, when I go back to it, I notice the horrible cheesy dialogue, twitchy acting (although these things are good for providing a laugh), horrible pre-rendered locations compared to the REmake and much more. I consider the remake to be the definitive version however this was definitely amazing for it's time.
Bring on RE 4!
Heh, for some reason, I'm replaying RECV right now (OK, RE4 made me do it)...
Anyways, I had previously deleted all of my saves off of my VMU, but for some reason, the game still acts as if I had already finished it. I have the infinite launcher and the battle game is available. Yet, there aren't any save files present...
Very strange indeed...
Anyways, the game has suprisingly cool atmosphere still today. The visuals are pretty awful, though. I was just playing Silent Hill 2 last night (another replay) and was impressed with how good it still looked...but RECV has aged badly. The effects are absolutely disgusting (fire and such looks truly awful...but that was pretty common on Dreamcast), the textures blurry and low-res, the models are ultra simple (way more than I remember), and the image quality is very dirty (though the edges are very clean) thanks to 16-bit color. Still, despite all that, some of the locales look pretty cool from a design standpoint and it's pretty enjoyable (though easy). The controls feel very loose (more than I remember), though, and the animation is pretty weak.
Brings back memories of the DC days, though...
Anyways, I had previously deleted all of my saves off of my VMU, but for some reason, the game still acts as if I had already finished it. I have the infinite launcher and the battle game is available. Yet, there aren't any save files present...
Very strange indeed...
Anyways, the game has suprisingly cool atmosphere still today. The visuals are pretty awful, though. I was just playing Silent Hill 2 last night (another replay) and was impressed with how good it still looked...but RECV has aged badly. The effects are absolutely disgusting (fire and such looks truly awful...but that was pretty common on Dreamcast), the textures blurry and low-res, the models are ultra simple (way more than I remember), and the image quality is very dirty (though the edges are very clean) thanks to 16-bit color. Still, despite all that, some of the locales look pretty cool from a design standpoint and it's pretty enjoyable (though easy). The controls feel very loose (more than I remember), though, and the animation is pretty weak.
Brings back memories of the DC days, though...
The Guivre
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RE2 remains my favorite of the series (waiting for RE4 to the PS2). I haven't played RECV, it was sort of spoiled by the fact I made the mistake of playing it alongside someone who had beaten it previously. I couldn't kill anything without him going all crazy and stuff like "don't kill that dog! You need that ammo for later!" I don't ever recall having ammo problems in the RE games I played.. maybe I just forgot the scrounging I had to go through. And I think I was told later there's plenty of ammo to go around in RECV.
ArcadeStickMonk
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I'm horribly annoyed with RE0, but what the hell is "zapping?"MoxManiac said: