Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
For a fucking idiot your taste is pretty legit tho
Maybe bloodstained should replace ori but eh
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Really LTTP: Super Metroid
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Maybe bloodstained should replace ori but eh
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Super Metroid and the OG Metroid are way better than all the other Metroids. Freakin millennials.
The Devil's Grocers
Member
It's hard to divorce my feelings on Super Metroid from nostalgia because I remember how amazing and groundbreaking it was when it first came out. I've got an SNES in my garage and I still boot up those games you mentioned from time to time, and I have to agree that Metroid doesn't hold up as well. Still a great game, still fun to play, but I don't think it's a contender for "best game in its genre" in the way that Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger or A Link to the Past are. Cheers
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
Just started playing this and got through Kraid's boss fight for the first time ever. Thought about making an LTTP but saw this thread.
The good:
-Impressive presentation for a 1994 SNES game: the atmosphere, cutscenes, map/inventory UI especially
-It is satisfying to unlock new abilities and new paths through an open-to-explore map
-Running while holding the left/right triggers to shoot up/down at angles is dope
-The environment/level design teaching you how to use mechanics is masterful
The mixed:
-Some tracks are bangers, most (so far) are pretty meh
The bad:
-The jump mechanics suck. Samus will jump straight up + two inches over, or she jumps at a 45-degree angle.
-Wall-jumps are seemingly integral but also like a hidden mechanic, and are painful to execute. Imagine having to time a Sekiro/Lies of P parry every time you want to do a wall-jump
-Without a guide, how in the world are you supposed to know where some hidden paths are without trying every combination of resource on every piece of the environment?
I'm glad I played this far, but I think I've had my fill, and won't play any further.
Might give Metroid Prime a go. I hear that's aged better.
The good:
-Impressive presentation for a 1994 SNES game: the atmosphere, cutscenes, map/inventory UI especially
-It is satisfying to unlock new abilities and new paths through an open-to-explore map
-Running while holding the left/right triggers to shoot up/down at angles is dope
-The environment/level design teaching you how to use mechanics is masterful
The mixed:
-Some tracks are bangers, most (so far) are pretty meh
The bad:
-The jump mechanics suck. Samus will jump straight up + two inches over, or she jumps at a 45-degree angle.
-Wall-jumps are seemingly integral but also like a hidden mechanic, and are painful to execute. Imagine having to time a Sekiro/Lies of P parry every time you want to do a wall-jump
-Without a guide, how in the world are you supposed to know where some hidden paths are without trying every combination of resource on every piece of the environment?
I'm glad I played this far, but I think I've had my fill, and won't play any further.
Might give Metroid Prime a go. I hear that's aged better.
Sooner
Gold Member
Hey don't blame your shitty childhood leading you to becoming a miserable adult on GAF.This game is heralded as one of the best games of all time. Often in top 10 lists.
I was a scrub growing up who never had his own Super Nintendo. So oddly enough my Metroid playing has been regulated to prime and dread. I've tried to get into super a few times in the past but I never committed.
I completed dread recently which I adored. THIS was peak gaming for me. So I figured people still consider SM better than this so it must be even better than Dread. Right? Right!?
Fuck no. Lmao.what is this over hyped nostalgia bait you mother fuckers glaze this atrocious game for?
It starts off good. All the usual goodies, exploring, teleporters, bosses, new tools, etc. Then it falls deep off a cliff with inconsistent shit jump mechanics galore. Paths so stupidly hidden it forces you to look up a guide unless you want to beat your brains into oblivion trying to figure it out on your own.
I cannot stress how shit space jump or wall jump is in this game. Imagine if Mario was this clunky lol that a simple double jump mechanic or wall jump was regulated to this retarded system. Thank god for Megaman X showing how wall jumps should work.
Before I subject myself to more nostalgia bait is Fusion better or am I going to get baited again?
Super Metroid is a 6/10. Dread is a 9/10. Prime is a 9/10. Change my mind.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
You mad bro?
FauxXeno
Member
Spoiler you can get the x-ray scope later on to find hidden paths and items , also alot of movement issues easily go away when you get items like high jump, speed boots and screw attack which is basically flying and a bunch of hidden mechanics which are hinted at in the preview at an idled start screen or the creatures in game . You should keep going , the way Samus gets faster and more powerful from start to finish is such a great experience that the problems you expressed are easily elevated through progression
videogamedude
Member
cool thread
Heimdall_Xtreme
Banned
RUMOR: Super Metroid remake coming from MercurySteam, alongside a new Metroid game
Is Samus ready for her next mission?
Rumor of Super Metroid Remake
cartman414
Member
Super Metroid annihilates SotN. Better exploration, none of the backtracking excess.
By dated controls, I hope no one's referring to the select toggle for missiles. Far more convenient than holding the shoulder button, and frees the latter for diagonal aiming.
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Dorago
Member
Super is the only good Metroid game.
1 and 2 are 8-bit garbage.
Zero Mission, Fusion, Return, and Dread are casualized knock offs of Super.
The Primes are a mixture of Doom 3 and Jumping Flash and not really Metroid games.
The first one is all right.
Other M doesn't even need to be considered.
1 and 2 are 8-bit garbage.
Zero Mission, Fusion, Return, and Dread are casualized knock offs of Super.
The Primes are a mixture of Doom 3 and Jumping Flash and not really Metroid games.
The first one is all right.
Other M doesn't even need to be considered.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I'd be down for a Super Metroid remake. Mercury Steam genuinely nailed the movement and mechanics in Dread. In fact, the only weak aspect of Dread was the mediocre soundtrack.RUMOR: Super Metroid remake coming from MercurySteam, alongside a new Metroid game
Is Samus ready for her next mission?gonintendo.com
Rumor of Super Metroid Remake
Super Metroid doesn't need to be remade, but any time Nintendo pays attention to Metroid, I'm happy.
MrJangles
Member
This game is heralded as one of the best games of all time. Often in top 10 lists.
I was a scrub growing up who never had his own Super Nintendo. So oddly enough my Metroid playing has been regulated to prime and dread. I've tried to get into super a few times in the past but I never committed.
I completed dread recently which I adored. THIS was peak gaming for me. So I figured people still consider SM better than this so it must be even better than Dread. Right? Right!?
Fuck no. Lmao.
It starts off good. All the usual goodies, exploring, teleporters, bosses, new tools, etc. Then it falls deep off a cliff with inconsistent shit jump mechanics galore. Paths so stupidly hidden it forces you to look up a guide unless you want to beat your brains into oblivion trying to figure it out on your own.
I cannot stress how shit space jump or wall jump is in this game. Imagine if Mario was this clunky lol that a simple double jump mechanic or wall jump was regulated to this retarded system. Thank god for Megaman X showing how wall jumps should work.
Before I subject myself to more nostalgia bait is Fusion better or am I going to get baited again?
Super Metroid is a 6/10. Dread is a 9/10. Prime is a 9/10. Change my mind.
You basically you are shit at it and its therefore a poor game.
Mahnmut
Member
I was about to say the exact same thing (well, without the dick sucking part, which is hilarious btw).
nkarafo
Member
Unfortunately, younger players have used to excessive hand holding and lack the patience to figure out something for themselves the moment they get stuck for more than 5 seconds.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Not as shit as your ability to write a sentence.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Wall jumps can be very "shit". Until today for me they are a pain to do. But "space jump"?? More of a skill issue. 
This game is heralded as one of the best games of all time. Often in top 10 lists.
I was a scrub growing up who never had his own Super Nintendo. So oddly enough my Metroid playing has been regulated to prime and dread. I've tried to get into super a few times in the past but I never committed.
I completed dread recently which I adored. THIS was peak gaming for me. So I figured people still consider SM better than this so it must be even better than Dread. Right? Right!?
Fuck no. Lmao.
It starts off good. All the usual goodies, exploring, teleporters, bosses, new tools, etc. Then it falls deep off a cliff with inconsistent shit jump mechanics galore. Paths so stupidly hidden it forces you to look up a guide unless you want to beat your brains into oblivion trying to figure it out on your own.
I cannot stress how shit space jump or wall jump is in this game. Imagine if Mario was this clunky lol that a simple double jump mechanic or wall jump was regulated to this retarded system. Thank god for Megaman X showing how wall jumps should work.
Before I subject myself to more nostalgia bait is Fusion better or am I going to get baited again?
Super Metroid is a 6/10. Dread is a 9/10. Prime is a 9/10. Change my mind.
OP is like:
And I'm here like:
Shifty1897
Member
I'd pay an $80 MSRP for that game, day one.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Dick sucking Metroid is a pre order collectors edition day one for me too.
Hadoukens
Member
If wall jump was too easy and obvious, you'd break progression frequently, potentially skipping major sections, or possibly end up confusing yourself. There's a "tutorial" for it in-game and you're stuck down there until you get the hang of it. Press Jump a split second after you press away from the wall, Samus even has a special animation for it; that thing where when you press away she looks like she's grabbing the wall instead of somersaulting. Also you can only do it while somersaulting. You can't do it with non-flipping jump.
Yes, it's basically impossible to do by mistake, and it is understandable to have difficulty with it, but Samus' jumping physics actually make it perfect. Practice it on long flat walls, if you want to become good enough at it for small short walls.
Space Jump is just press Jump on your way down from a somersault jump. There's a tiny bit of timing to it, but not really if you just wait until you're falling. Again, you can't space jump without somersaulting.
The only part I can see someone getting stuck is not realizing you can blow up the tube with a power bomb. The game does give you a clue with the already broken one, and there's a title screen attract demo that actually shows you to do exactly that, iirc.
I still remember my original time of beating this game when I bought it for SNES, a little over 9 hours. The next day I replayed it and beat it in an hour and a half. Empty areas in the map basically tell you where to go.
Personally I still think some of the shinespark secret items in every game after Super Metroid are much harder than anything in this game. Especially Dread has some really tricky ones that I wouldn't have gotten without an explanation and video.
Yes, it's basically impossible to do by mistake, and it is understandable to have difficulty with it, but Samus' jumping physics actually make it perfect. Practice it on long flat walls, if you want to become good enough at it for small short walls.
Space Jump is just press Jump on your way down from a somersault jump. There's a tiny bit of timing to it, but not really if you just wait until you're falling. Again, you can't space jump without somersaulting.
The only part I can see someone getting stuck is not realizing you can blow up the tube with a power bomb. The game does give you a clue with the already broken one, and there's a title screen attract demo that actually shows you to do exactly that, iirc.
I still remember my original time of beating this game when I bought it for SNES, a little over 9 hours. The next day I replayed it and beat it in an hour and a half. Empty areas in the map basically tell you where to go.
Personally I still think some of the shinespark secret items in every game after Super Metroid are much harder than anything in this game. Especially Dread has some really tricky ones that I wouldn't have gotten without an explanation and video.
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