Rebel FM Episode 5 02/04/09: Dawn of War II Beta, RE5, and Afro Samurai + MORE!
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My problem isn't asking for money, it's the pretense in which the request was made. The way it sounded, every penny of the money was going back into the show which is unbelievable even if they shopped at the most expensive store on the planet. If they came out and said, "Hey, we have rent" and managed to raise that money, you'd have no complaints from me. Others I'm sure would bitch but as long as you're up front, hey, go nuts.Rez>You said:
HorribleJames
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daycru said:
pretty much right on. the request was pretty shameless to begin with, though.
spending tens of thousands on podcasting gear is sort of an absurd proposition. you can make one that sounds great for really nothing at all compared to the sum they got. makes me question their original motives for asking for money, to be honest. maybe the show itself was a front to get them out of some gambling debt or something.
HorribleJames
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the reason donations are still on topic is because they're still posting episodes without mics or equipment. it should take no time at all to get some mics and stuff if you're taking your show seriously.
TheGreatDave
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Rez>You said:
Not really. People are within their rights to ask questions, especially when it's hard to see where the money has gone.
wonderkins
Member
Perfect summation. The meandering conversation was conspicuous evidence of there being no outline or theme developed for this episode prior to recording. A few bullet points do not suffice as preparation. Importantly, there should be a participant whose role is to keep the conversation moving (i.e. the host); witness the Bombcast.lawblob said:
Also, there's one individual who pretends to be an iconoclast but, instead, merely plays the role of an insolent. Given the arrogance, though, I can only see the criticism presented here and at their website as reinforcing his attitude rather than it providing grist for personal reflection. That would be unfortunate.
Honestly, that was an awkward listen. Cringeworthy, even, with the vulgarity. A fuck here or there can emphasize a point; too often or misplaced, it comes across as needlessly flamboyant. Swallow the bitter medicine, guys, or watch the dream evaporate. Sorry.
rocksolidaudio
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not that there's any reason for me to be in this thread at this point, but for those questioning, we ordered two more mics for next week. we weren't sure if we would regularly have six people on, and figured the sharing would work out when we did. it didn't, so we're upgrading -- to add to the crapload of other equipment we picked up. though we're still recording in a living room in Oakland; we'll figuring out some soundproofing to compliment the nice equipment, but as with everything else, it takes time.
HorribleJames
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I don't think "winging it" is necessarily bad, but it is dangerous territory.
But how do you do 1UP FM's segments when you no longer have the resources? Shelf life is out because you don't get to play the games pre-release as are the developer interviews. Only thing that really translates is backlog (which I never listened to) and the mail bag.Puck said:
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
rocksolidaudio said:
new mics is fantastic news.
<3 me some rebel fm.
I loved the HL2 as a shooter debate. If only because Ryan expressed exactly how I feel about games in general. Half Life being a combination of amazingly well done components. While something like Call of Duty is pretty much just gun play. I enjoyed COD4 more than any previous Call of Duty because they attempted to make a cohesive story, but still wasn't quite the experience I love like Half Life, Riddick, Darkness, Bioshock etc. But it was nice to see someone actually talk about what makes Half-Life the game that it is.
SilentProtagonist
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"Hey guys whats goin on in this thread?"
"Uh-oh"
Punchy said:
The problem with Aegis is/has always been... he's some random douche who got a bit of the 1up fallout starshine. He has no established personality to fall back on and no one cares about him/his opinion
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14588883&postcount=72
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
This is where I have to disagree. L4D was nominated for several awards in animation, and for good reason. It will be hard to go back to Resident Evil and House of the Dead after L4D. The zombies in L4D just have so much more weight and physicality due to the animation and physics.Sectus said:That HL2/shooter argument seemed very pointless. Even if he thinks it isn't within the shooting genre, who the heck cares? And this quote made me confused: "And the shooting not being as good as other games is the reason why I have it a 9.5 and not a 10." So instead of giving it a very very very very very very very good score you "only" gave it a very very very very very very good score? M'kay.
I personally agree that the basic shooting mechanics in most Valve games are rather mediocre, I hate how just about all the guns are so inaccurate, even at the first shot. And L4D just feels like you're shooting paper, enemies fall down so quickly but you still don't feel any actual impact to the shooting. They should have been arguing that instead of what genre HL2 is in
The short RE5 talk was nice. I love the RE5 demo, and if the full game is even better and it has some of the typical exploration/puzzle solving from RE4, then that's great.
And in my opinion, the shooting in HL2 was by far the weakest part of the game. It might have improved in the episodes but I would have enjoyed HL2 better if it was a full on adventure game, with the shooting limited to the major action set pieces. Otherwise, the shooting in HL2 only served to slow down the pace of the game. People had the same problem with Mirror's Edge, and I think it is a valid one.
Bog said:Hey, thanks for listening, "voltron". I'm glad you enjoyed the show. It's people like you who keep us doing what we do. But really, this thread is for honoring the Rebels, so please, let's get back on topic.
I didnt have a problem with your show actually. But please stop calling it parody when it was clearly just an insulting bitchfest.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lolSilentProtagonist said:
"Hey guys whats goin on in this thread?"
"Uh-oh"
Johnny2Bags
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beelzebozo
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you guys are blowing the "arthur factor" way out of proportion.
I thought the shooter discussion could have been helped out if they had made it more clear whether they were talking about console or PC games, and maybe talked about the different platforms on their own entirely instead of mashing them both together. While listening, I was often confused about which version/edition of a specific game they would be referring to, which is not acceptable considering what different experiences you would have playing on PC or console. I personally prefer to play FPS on PC, so I would have happily skipped over any console shooter discussion.
There were also too many generalizations, like "Half Life is/does [X];" considering that 'Half Life' encompasses two full games and two large episodes across a period of 10 years and features wildly differing gameplay elements and situations, the guys should have been a lot more specific and given examples. Really, everyone involved should have had a lot more supporting examples at the ready, no matter which game they were talking about. And any sort of "[X] isn't a shooter" BS should have been stomped on immediately. What a nonsense statement.
Finally, far too much of the discussion amounted to the guys straining to put some sort of intellectual face on their own subjective experiences. Most of what I heard could have just as easily be expressed by a bunch of people sitting around yelling "I like Half Life!" "Well, I like Bioshock!" for a half hour. I'm not sure what the point is of setting up a discussion topic like this when most of the statements amount to "I thought this game put you in more interesting situations" or "I felt more in control of this game," because what is there to rebut? "No you didn't"?
There were also too many generalizations, like "Half Life is/does [X];" considering that 'Half Life' encompasses two full games and two large episodes across a period of 10 years and features wildly differing gameplay elements and situations, the guys should have been a lot more specific and given examples. Really, everyone involved should have had a lot more supporting examples at the ready, no matter which game they were talking about. And any sort of "[X] isn't a shooter" BS should have been stomped on immediately. What a nonsense statement.
Finally, far too much of the discussion amounted to the guys straining to put some sort of intellectual face on their own subjective experiences. Most of what I heard could have just as easily be expressed by a bunch of people sitting around yelling "I like Half Life!" "Well, I like Bioshock!" for a half hour. I'm not sure what the point is of setting up a discussion topic like this when most of the statements amount to "I thought this game put you in more interesting situations" or "I felt more in control of this game," because what is there to rebut? "No you didn't"?
beelzebozo said:
Nope. His demeanor, lack of tact and immature insistence on being "right" ruined the show. The arguing got too heated, and I'm not interested in tuning in for over an hour of unsubstantiated, sweeping generalization-making "discussion". There's always one person who's in over his head in a discussion, and you can usually tell who that person is based on how loud he is relative to other speakers. In this case, it's Arthur. I tune in to podcasts to be entertained and enlightened, not to listen to some jackass use his internet pulpit to defend his own existence.
(That, and Anthony's piss-poor attitude, which I'll excuse because I generally appreciate his contributions.)
My podcast listening time is limited. This one just dropped off the bottom of my list.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
really? go look at the comments on e-s-g's website for this ep. doesnt seem like just a gaf gripe.beelzebozo said:
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
hm. yikes.
I was kind of cringing during this episode thinking that Arthur's grating on Ryan would make Ryan not want to come back. I first felt this way last week when Arthur said, jokingly, "Don't make me play xxx again!" (and I can't remember what he was even talking about, to be honest), and Ryan said, "I'm not making you play anything." It was a joke comment but it was the first time I sensed something was up.
I liked him in the first few episodes but scaling back would be good long-term.
I liked him in the first few episodes but scaling back would be good long-term.
Must. Stop. Reading. E-S-G comments.x Man Arthur is copping a hiding over there. I actually feel bad for the guy.
When you think about the environment and vibe that they record Rebel FM in, its not hard to understand why someone would be as 'abrasive' as Arthur has. I mean, they record the podcast in his lounge room (I think) and its likely got the vibe of a bunch of buddies sitting around talking shit about games.
I could imagine myself getting easily excitable in a situation like that too. Especially with no brand or image to maintain.
When you think about the environment and vibe that they record Rebel FM in, its not hard to understand why someone would be as 'abrasive' as Arthur has. I mean, they record the podcast in his lounge room (I think) and its likely got the vibe of a bunch of buddies sitting around talking shit about games.
I could imagine myself getting easily excitable in a situation like that too. Especially with no brand or image to maintain.
TurboLibre
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Whoa. That doesn't sound good.
Anthony, if you're reading this, cheer up. The bad times happen so you can appreciate the good. Things will turn around soon, and you will have been better person for going through these trials.
Anthony, if you're reading this, cheer up. The bad times happen so you can appreciate the good. Things will turn around soon, and you will have been better person for going through these trials.