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Red Dead Redemption |OT| Whistling Morricone in the desert
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That moment was somewhat ruined for me because I accidentally rode my horse off a cliff and died. :lolVindicatorZ said:
Well, I finished the game tonight and on a scale of one to ten, I would give it a solid seven. This will be based off mainly the story missions. The stranger missions are a mixed bag of terrible to great. They're mostly fetch quests. Anyone who enjoys these and rags on World of Warcraft quests is a hypocrite. :lol
The game can be a glitch filled wreck sometimes (a lot of times) and the story gets bogged down by just plain terrible characters. Almost everyone after Bonnie and the Marshall are dreadful. I would shoot them all if I could have.
End game spoilers.
By the end of the game, I was tired of the story. It just bogs down in endless messages about the inability to escape your past given to you by characters who you have no remote chance in hell in caring about. A message Rockstar is overly fond of using. There's no real sense of dread about the events taking place in the world. A weird feeling you have that the shit may hit the fan. A sense of "change" in the world that is happening around you. Instead, it's beat into you with a hammer.
The rest of the game is fine. Plenty of "stuff to do" with outfits, hideouts, challenges, strangers, jobs, hunting, blah blah. That'll be enough for some. Not for others. I hit 85% complete and I'm done there. After that it feels like a complete grind to me. I'm impressed with the amount of randomness and fun things to do in the world, but after awhile, even they begin to get old and just fill up space. That's not a negative, just more of a YMMV thing. I didn't try online. I doubt I ever will. It doesn't appeal to me. It's the online version of "stuff to do."
Overall, it's a solid game with a nicely realized world. I recognize the work and love put into the game. No question. It's strengths lie in it's randomness, "stuff" and improved gameplay over GTA. Not with its missions and story. It started off wonderfully, but ended with a thud. I don't see myself picking up any expansions for this unless they are completely Bonnie-centric.
The best moment in the game's story takes place near the very end. It's very bittersweet. Nothing "exciting" happens. No guns, shooting, lassoing or otherwise. Just a glimpse at the talent Rockstar possesses when they nail a character. Shame it went to waste.
Perhaps I'm being too hard on it? Nah. I spent $60 on it and this is what I got. <shrug>
The game can be a glitch filled wreck sometimes (a lot of times) and the story gets bogged down by just plain terrible characters. Almost everyone after Bonnie and the Marshall are dreadful. I would shoot them all if I could have.
End game spoilers.
By the end of the missions to kill Dutch, everything was just a drag. The Government guys were lame and preachy with Marston coming off like a whiny shit. "Can I see my family now?" "Well, did we kill Dutch? No? Then no." Repeat this...what, ten times between cutscenes and conversations? Jesus. The professor was dreadful as well. I wish I could have shot him too? Why the fuck does Rockstar need to throw in all these "crazy" characters into their games? Why would Marston want to keep going back to this asshole anyway?!
Then, there's Dutch. The dude is given no real build up. He just appears. Why did he go crazy? Well, that's never really explained. He says that all he knows is fighting. Okay, that's great. What else? What made him go crazy on that train? What happened for him and the gang to abandon John? Did I miss that? What was the trigger? The moment that Dutch had to make him go foolish? I don't think we ever found out. So, we gladly slaughter angry Native American "savages" who chose to ally with Dutch until the limp climax.
Then John returns home and we basically do the tutorial ALL OVER AGAIN. Yes, I understand that we're teaching Jack how to survive in the world, but that shit was boring in the beginning and its boring in the end. Herding, hunting, blah blah. However, John's interactions with his family are, by far, the best part of the game since the start of it. Abigail is a cute character and Jack and John's relationship is rightfully complicated.
Then all hell breaks loose. I wasn't sad here because the writers of this game beat you over the head with remarks that foreshadow the end of John. I was surprised that it was done with little fanfare. No warning, no speeches from Ross, no...nothing really. Was refreshing. Then you go on to "finish" the game, yadda, yadda.
Then, there's Dutch. The dude is given no real build up. He just appears. Why did he go crazy? Well, that's never really explained. He says that all he knows is fighting. Okay, that's great. What else? What made him go crazy on that train? What happened for him and the gang to abandon John? Did I miss that? What was the trigger? The moment that Dutch had to make him go foolish? I don't think we ever found out. So, we gladly slaughter angry Native American "savages" who chose to ally with Dutch until the limp climax.
Then John returns home and we basically do the tutorial ALL OVER AGAIN. Yes, I understand that we're teaching Jack how to survive in the world, but that shit was boring in the beginning and its boring in the end. Herding, hunting, blah blah. However, John's interactions with his family are, by far, the best part of the game since the start of it. Abigail is a cute character and Jack and John's relationship is rightfully complicated.
Then all hell breaks loose. I wasn't sad here because the writers of this game beat you over the head with remarks that foreshadow the end of John. I was surprised that it was done with little fanfare. No warning, no speeches from Ross, no...nothing really. Was refreshing. Then you go on to "finish" the game, yadda, yadda.
By the end of the game, I was tired of the story. It just bogs down in endless messages about the inability to escape your past given to you by characters who you have no remote chance in hell in caring about. A message Rockstar is overly fond of using. There's no real sense of dread about the events taking place in the world. A weird feeling you have that the shit may hit the fan. A sense of "change" in the world that is happening around you. Instead, it's beat into you with a hammer.
The rest of the game is fine. Plenty of "stuff to do" with outfits, hideouts, challenges, strangers, jobs, hunting, blah blah. That'll be enough for some. Not for others. I hit 85% complete and I'm done there. After that it feels like a complete grind to me. I'm impressed with the amount of randomness and fun things to do in the world, but after awhile, even they begin to get old and just fill up space. That's not a negative, just more of a YMMV thing. I didn't try online. I doubt I ever will. It doesn't appeal to me. It's the online version of "stuff to do."
Overall, it's a solid game with a nicely realized world. I recognize the work and love put into the game. No question. It's strengths lie in it's randomness, "stuff" and improved gameplay over GTA. Not with its missions and story. It started off wonderfully, but ended with a thud. I don't see myself picking up any expansions for this unless they are completely Bonnie-centric.
The best moment in the game's story takes place near the very end. It's very bittersweet. Nothing "exciting" happens. No guns, shooting, lassoing or otherwise. Just a glimpse at the talent Rockstar possesses when they nail a character. Shame it went to waste.
Perhaps I'm being too hard on it? Nah. I spent $60 on it and this is what I got. <shrug>
So.....I can see why some people hate Free Roam. I spent an hour and a half last night with a friend, and it CAN be a bit boring.
But the night before, me and the same friend had a freakin blast.
The difference? Motivation. You've really got to go and DO something. I dont feel this game is at its best when just doing random BS, like GTA games tend to be.
But the night before, me and the same friend had a freakin blast.
The difference? Motivation. You've really got to go and DO something. I dont feel this game is at its best when just doing random BS, like GTA games tend to be.
UnluckyKate said:Shit, I save up to buy a Winshester rifle from the gun store.
Then I go see the marshall to start a mission.
I found a camp and Marston picks a... Winshester from a dead body.
350$ wasted
Try saving up for the most expensive horse in Armadillo and finding out you're already riding that horse since the you got the Stallion from Bonnie in the horse-breaking-tutorialmission. After you've bought it.
bunbun777
Member
I have hit 100% completion- the reward is a bit interesting.
end game stuff mixed in beware:
MP is pretty sweet, if you like riding around with friends, terrorizing other players and finding beautiful cliffs to shoot players horses with sniper rifles. Which I do. And the matches are great when I play 'hardcore' with no auto assist. I know I will get the hang of it, and watching players try to shoot, roll, jump, ride horses, throw dynamite, and maybe accomplish the objectives- I mean 12+ players... it's a lot of fun!
end game stuff mixed in beware:
the fact that as John's son, or even John if you were to use the cheat, you get to wear a federal agent suit with the ability to be free from the consequences of the law = kill everyone/anyone - it seems highly hypocritical, down right morbid really. But then again, you do have to put the suit on...
MP is pretty sweet, if you like riding around with friends, terrorizing other players and finding beautiful cliffs to shoot players horses with sniper rifles. Which I do. And the matches are great when I play 'hardcore' with no auto assist. I know I will get the hang of it, and watching players try to shoot, roll, jump, ride horses, throw dynamite, and maybe accomplish the objectives- I mean 12+ players... it's a lot of fun!
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
I like Thieves Landing. It reminds me of the Pirate's of the Caribbean ride at Disney.
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
Is it coincidence, or is it always cloudy, foggy and rainy over there?
I like my towns sunny damnit!Anyway, are there any easter eggs to be found on the whole of the map? Like in San Andreas?
What are some of your favorite places to chill or to hang out due to the beautiful vista's?
BaronLundi
Member
neorej said:
Wasted both the money on the american standardbred and the winchester. Didn't buy the buffalo rifle and now it's gone
Will it ever come back ?berserk_ftw
Member
neorej said:
But that is not wasted money, with the certificate you can always get the stallion, even after it was killed, just by using it.
BaronLundi
Member
Kintaro said:
To be fair in RDR at least you don't happen to encounter animals that miss bones, skulls, eyeballs or any other bodypart that you are actually supposed to gather for a quest :lol
Kintaro said:
God Dickens just shut the fuck up ! And the constant empty threats really made it worse.
I loved Seth and Irish though. I just arrived in Mexico (no song for me god dammit), wait and see for the rest of the cast...
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Did anyone else kill
funny man? After saving his ass three times and getting the mission complete. I chased after him before his character disappeared forever and hogtied him to the ground, shot him in the head, and burned his body with a molotov. It felt good.
BudokaiMR2
Member
I killed my first rabbit by squishing him on my horse. I only realized because of the delicous "squish" I heard in my surround sound.
:lol
:lol
berserk_ftw
Member
Why do I not get the Gentlemens Attire outfit? Signed up at the social club on the net and linked it ingame with the triangle button, said, that after my next save, it should be under outfits, nothing there
First post back here since I picked up my copy. What an incredible game!
Every element of gameplay just blends so nicely. I'm about 35% with about 15 hours logged and am pretty much balls deep addicted. I've caught myself humming songs and last night I even dreamt about red and yellow waypoints on a map. It's been quite a while since a game has caught me like this.
Quick query: I got into a bar fight in Armadillo with some red sash (Bolland Gang?) wearing fellers. Roughed 'em up a bit but didn't kill any. I left the bar to avoid any further confrontation and made my way to Thieves Landing. Upon my arrival shooting breaks out, aimed at me from the Saloon. I took a few shots before making my way to my room for a save and I logged out.
Are these two incidents related? I'm not entirely sure it was the same red sash wearing jerks. If it is though, how do you quell gang animosity?
Every element of gameplay just blends so nicely. I'm about 35% with about 15 hours logged and am pretty much balls deep addicted. I've caught myself humming songs and last night I even dreamt about red and yellow waypoints on a map. It's been quite a while since a game has caught me like this.
Quick query: I got into a bar fight in Armadillo with some red sash (Bolland Gang?) wearing fellers. Roughed 'em up a bit but didn't kill any. I left the bar to avoid any further confrontation and made my way to Thieves Landing. Upon my arrival shooting breaks out, aimed at me from the Saloon. I took a few shots before making my way to my room for a save and I logged out.
Are these two incidents related? I'm not entirely sure it was the same red sash wearing jerks. If it is though, how do you quell gang animosity?
BaronLundi
Member
Darkman M said:
Yeah I know and it might come handy but none of my horses died so far so it just seemed like a waste of half of my money at the time.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
Darkman M said:
Hrm, I never went to Blackwater to get the credits. I wonder if its based on whether you thought to shoot the agents in John's last standoff. I blanked and just shot anything I could, so when I played as Jack I read the newspaper to find the agent retired and living outside Armadillo, which opened a stranger like quest to hunt him down and kill him.
darkjedi187
Member
Am I missing something when playing poker it said I won $1000, when I left the table I only had 650?
Also I've asked this on nearly every page, but is anyone else unable to unlock the gentelman's attire from the rockstar social club.
Also I've asked this on nearly every page, but is anyone else unable to unlock the gentelman's attire from the rockstar social club.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
darkjedi187 said:
Are you confusing chips with dollars? Only thing I can think of.
sneakypete
Member
darkjedi187 said:
You probably won 1000 chips not $$$. You pay a initial price(IP) to get a set amount of chips, $100 for 1000 in Blackwater IIRC, so you can win IP * # of players.
Email R* about the gentleman's attire, I have no clue as it worked for me.
^
RDRsupport@rockstargames.com
berserk_ftw
Member
darkjedi187 said:
Here! Says I will see it under outfits, after camping or saving in a home, but nothing
Even my golden guns code was for nothing, was accepted, but they never showed up.
zero margin
Member
Shooting at birds I find to be really good hand/eye coordination practice.
darkjedi187
Member
sw33tclyde said:
Thank you for the email address. And for the poker advice. I must be confusing chips with dollars.
wayward archer
Member
Darkman M said:
I actually got the paper, read that article, and tried to go out there myself. Nothing happened though. Didn't even realize there was
a new ? in Blackwater
ShockingAlberto said:
Something like this happened to me, but it was in one of the hideout areas we'd just cleared. I noticed, though, when I paid the bounty that the charge was "Animal Slaughter" or something along those lines.
I guess the Mexican Army didn't like that too much. lol. But I did feel a little better that the crime didn't have to do with the fact that I happened to shoot near the army guys.
mr afghan jones
Neo Member
VindicatorZ said:
Me too, apparently if you try to perform certian actions it overrides the song for some reason and reverts to normal soundtrack.
For me and some other people, if you tried to whistle for your horse rather than take one of the rubbish ones waiting for you, it breaks the song. Other people have had similar due to going into their inventory or trying to loot the bodies of those last two guys you kill.
Real shame as apparently its a magical moment for most people.
So anyone who hasnt gone to mexico yet, when you first get there take no action other than getting on one of the waiting horses and going for a ride and you should hear the song. Try and do anything else and you might not get it.
Endgame spoiler
Did anyone else not talk to the agent in Blackwater to realise there was more to the story? I know I didn't, I found out about Ross living out by Don Julio by looking at the latest newspaper, there was a story about him retiring in it. Lots of other cool stories in that final issue too, tells you what happens to quite a few characters.
berserk_ftw
Member
mr afghan jones said:
Damn, whistled for my horse
I guess, thats why I don't have a clue, what they mean, when praising the great song at the entrance of Mexico.Of all the random roadside encounters, there is one I don't know how to handle (usually or always in
):
Usually I just shoot everybody, which ups my fame a bit but doesn't seem to change my honor.
Mexico
There's three Mexican Soldiers about to kill one random guy. The guy always claims to be innocent, and the soldiers tell me to "get lost gringo" or I'll be next.
Usually I just shoot everybody, which ups my fame a bit but doesn't seem to change my honor.
rainking187
Member
Does anyone else start running in this game, whistle for your horse then jump on when it gets close and then make it start running while you're still getting on? Feels so badass.
red shoe paul
Banned
rainking187 said:
Oh yes.
Jugendstil
Member
mr afghan jones said:
That is incredibly stupid. I got on one of the horses at the dock, but then minute I saw how bad it was, I got off and whistled for my horse. I want the achievement for completing 20 missions with one horse besides. Lame. I think I have a save right before the mission crossing into Mexico, maybe I'll replay it just to hear the song...
Haunted
Member
You know that's kinda symptomatic for this game. :lol They create this utterly brilliant moment when the music kicks in while riding into Mexico, and a simple fucking whistle, or gathering a flower will break the tension and abruptly stop it. Dudes! You make it so this song will play out fully! >_<
Always! I like that the horse anticipates where you're going when you whistle for it, makes for some dynamic saddling.rainking187 said:
JetBlackPanda
Member
rainking187 said:
Hell Yes I do this, Its bad ass when you are chasing someone down.. I also like to jump off the second story of the saloon in Armadillo onto my horse..
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Geez, the fifth treasure map is really damn vague. There's just a picture of some rocks, one of which has a twin peak. Apparently it's in Mexico, but that's all I know. There are no names or landmarks to go by at all.
Anybody have any hints at all? I know I could just look it up on YouTube, but I want to at least partially figure it out myself.
Anybody have any hints at all? I know I could just look it up on YouTube, but I want to at least partially figure it out myself.
berserk_ftw
Member
Ben2749 said:
I could say in which area it is found, but I think, thats too much?