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Red Dead Redemption |OT| Whistling Morricone in the desert
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Manos: The Hans of Fate
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So I owned and beat RDR for the PS3. Then in a fit of stupidity I got Undead Nightmare for the 360...but I didn't realize it wasn't the whole game (I talk about it more here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419846). So is it worth it to get a used copy of RDR (with no achievements or save...which means a fresh replay) just to play RDR:Undead Nightmare?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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I think I may rebuy it just so I can enjoy the horse ride crossing over the hills into Mexico the first time...but without falling off the cliffs by accident lol
RPGCrazied
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Will have to say the 360 version looks an runs better. PS3 has jaggies all over, and I'm noticing in towns there is an FPS stutter, its not bad though.
No screen tearing, so thats a plus!
No screen tearing, so thats a plus!
Die Squirrel Die
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I've been playing this for the first time recently, I'm a few missions into West Elizabeth. I agree with Buckethead, larger settlements and gameplay revolving around that would probably be my number one ask for a sequel (which I hope we don't have to wait another 6 years for like Revolver -> Redemption). It didn't bother me through New Austin or Nuevo Paraiso but Blackwater does feel a bit small and empty.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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RPGCrazied said:
Hmm, I was wondering if I would notice the tech improvement too. Well I guess I should give it a shot.
m0ngo said:
Just wanted to say this is hilarious and very true. lol
So I'm replaying the game for the first time since beating it when it released last year. I got 100% the first time through and am trying to do so again. However, I am having an issue with one of the outfits. I have all the pre-requisites for the US Army outfit, and the only remaining thing to do is to buy the scrap from the tailor in Blackwater. However, when I go into his store, the scrap is always shown as not available.
Is this a known glitch or am I missing something here? I was able to get it last time.
Is this a known glitch or am I missing something here? I was able to get it last time.
Wiggum2007
Junior Member
I thought overall RDR had more of an American Western vibe. For the sequel I think it'd be great if they went more Spaghetti Western. Those Sergio Leone films had a more fantastical, larger than life feel which I think fits better with the over the top, high body count gameplay than a gritty down to earth style.
Have you completed all the missions? I don't think it unlocks until a certain point in the story.
Solo said:
Have you completed all the missions? I don't think it unlocks until a certain point in the story.
Blue Ninja
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Started replaying this yesterday, and man, this is still such an amazingly realized world. The way Marston moves across the landscape as though he's an actual part of the world is something not a lot of open world games get right. The world also feels really 'alive'. Such a great game.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Solo said:
BIG END OF GAME SPOILER
Doesn't show up in the store until you're playing as Jack.
Wiggum2007 said:
Thematically RDR is far more Italian than American (though from an aesthetic standpoint I know what you mean). Italian Westerns were far grittier and morally ambiguous than American westerns at the time. So RDR fits in that much more.
That being said, Red Dead Revolver already went for the all-out cartoon Spaghetti style, so I don't see why that would need to get repeated.
Wiggum2007
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Munin said:
Yeah I guess I was thinking more from an aesthetic point of view. I guess when I say American western I meant more modern westerns like 3:10 to Yuma etc., rather than, say, John Wayne films (now that'd be an interesting route for them to take in a sequel, haha). I haven't played Red Dead Revolver, didn't that game have like evil midget clowns and villains with machine guns for arms? Heh.
Iwatas Magic Sports Coat
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I'm a bit late to the party. Really enjoyed the game, but like a lot of R* games, I tend to lose a bit of interest in the 2nd half. Anyway I finally opened up Blackwater & Great Plains and did a few of those missions.
I really hope there is something that makes this worthwhile, because going back to essentially the tutorial missions is really tedious.
After Dutch dies, and Marston goes back home to his family Why am I still playing this game? I am having a hard time finding the fun in herding cattle & killing crows
Iwatas Magic Sports Coat
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well I'm determined to finish it. But that was a pretty lousy piece of direction from R* IMO.
Iwatas Magic Sports Coat
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Also, after I'm finished can I go back with this save & finish some gang hideouts and stranger quests?
JohnnytheFuture
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Iwatas Magic Sports Coat said:
You're almost there! Keep going!!!
Also, don't forget to do the epilogue mission after the "final" mission. (i.e. after the credits roll, go back into the game and continue playing)
Iwatas Magic Sports Coat
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Ok, I just finished it & I give high marks to R* for doing something that I totally wasn't expecting. Something that you just don't see in most forms of entertainment. Whether it's games or film or even books. I don't know if I like what they did or not, but it definitely was surprising.
In anticipation for LA Noire last night I booted up RDR and started to screw around in multiplayer. Entered my first ever Grand Prix with the hopes of getting the Peacewalker achievement.
Won the race without firing a shot, but I took a shot from another player at the very beginning. The three losing players then voted to boot me for wining legit.
Great community.
Won the race without firing a shot, but I took a shot from another player at the very beginning. The three losing players then voted to boot me for wining legit.
Great community.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Dead Man said:
If you do aim for his hand you'll fill up to about 10% and he'll quickly rise to 100% so he'll shoot you. It's a race to build up the meters you have to kill him since only killing shot will fill it up to beat him.
Me, I just managed to get every single offline trophy. Thinking about shooting for platinum. At level 18 or 20 online but I don't really have it in me for another online level grind.
CaseyTappy
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Iwatas Magic Sports Coat said:
But you are still not finished until you see the end credits !
Iwatas Magic Sports Coat
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CaseyTappy said:
I did. I went on the final mission that ended by the river.
bengraven
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You gotta give it up for R* and the amount of effort they put into the end
Honestly, RDR2 is my most anticipated game right now, even moreso than the ones announced already.
I'm hoping we get one soon and there's a PC release. My PC is aching for this game.
- doing a special cutscene for every single Stranger mission but one if you're playing as Jack. I think it was almost overkill, especially since I did every Stranger before I finished the game, but it didn't break them, so high five.
That said, Jack's voice and face annoys the shit out of me. They should have got a different actor for his adult form and his face looks like a potato.
That said, Jack's voice and face annoys the shit out of me. They should have got a different actor for his adult form and his face looks like a potato.
Honestly, RDR2 is my most anticipated game right now, even moreso than the ones announced already.
tim1138 said:
I'm hoping we get one soon and there's a PC release. My PC is aching for this game.
Just started playing this tonight, just a little bit so no real in depth analysis, but first impressions are pretty awesome. Love the vistas and setting, and the voice acting seems superb.
Only thing that is taking a little getting used to is steering the horse and making it do what I want.
Only thing that is taking a little getting used to is steering the horse and making it do what I want.
bengraven
Member
Really bored, so things I want to see in the next game:
+ Bill Elm return for the music
+ keep the same scale of things - I like the distance between towns and the wide open areas
+ maybe a bit of customization and owning of property ala VC. Let me buy up a brothel or just get a nice little farmhouse.
+ taxidermy!
+ don't get too radical with the time period, setting. 1911 made me nervous already, though it was done perfectly and my doubts were unfounded. It will still be a great game regardless, but being set in 1800's Mongolia or modern day Argentina just wouldn't be the same. Don't pull a Call of Juarez.
+ better, more impactful dueling: if it takes place earlier during the time of the real Western legends not the twilight years like Ricketts, let us fight characters who through story and word of mouth are huge players in the world. Make them feel the like superheroes they were to kids.
+ wait, yes, let's be Landon Ricketts!
- fix Euphoria so I don't have to "drive" Marston sometimes. Also, when is Rockstar going to fix the jumping that hasn't changed since GTAIII? The plodding jump forward that sometimes makes me accidently jump in the water and drown myself
- give me that PC port I've been pissing about in the last few weeks.
I know this is boring, but I can't really think of a lot of things I would want to change, for fear of screwing with what made RDR so great.
This is seriously my favorite free-roaming game of all time. Probably second on my list of GoAT.
+ Bill Elm return for the music
+ keep the same scale of things - I like the distance between towns and the wide open areas
+ maybe a bit of customization and owning of property ala VC. Let me buy up a brothel or just get a nice little farmhouse.
+ taxidermy!
+ don't get too radical with the time period, setting. 1911 made me nervous already, though it was done perfectly and my doubts were unfounded. It will still be a great game regardless, but being set in 1800's Mongolia or modern day Argentina just wouldn't be the same. Don't pull a Call of Juarez.
+ better, more impactful dueling: if it takes place earlier during the time of the real Western legends not the twilight years like Ricketts, let us fight characters who through story and word of mouth are huge players in the world. Make them feel the like superheroes they were to kids.
+ wait, yes, let's be Landon Ricketts!
- fix Euphoria so I don't have to "drive" Marston sometimes. Also, when is Rockstar going to fix the jumping that hasn't changed since GTAIII? The plodding jump forward that sometimes makes me accidently jump in the water and drown myself
- give me that PC port I've been pissing about in the last few weeks.
I know this is boring, but I can't really think of a lot of things I would want to change, for fear of screwing with what made RDR so great.
This is seriously my favorite free-roaming game of all time. Probably second on my list of GoAT.
Agreed on everything. I'm one of the only people in the world who actually enjoys the controls in Rockstar games, but the jumping does feel so damn awkward. Trying to be at all specific with it is impossible.bengraven said:
One thing I'd add is a continuation of the stranger missions, just more fleshed out. Those encounters/missions were some of my favourite parts of RDR. Happening upon someone or something interesting when on the road is a quintessential western event.
It makes me sad to think how long it will be until we get another Red Dead (if one is in the cards).
bobs...onGaf
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Sorry for the nooby question, but is there a version of this game that comes with the add ons? I want to get the game, but the Undead DLC seems like a pretty big thing and I would love to get it along with the game if thats possible?
Net_Wrecker
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A27 Tawpgun said:
There is a LOT they can do to surpass RDR. As much as I love this game, there were some missed opportunities.
First of all, they need to bring it back to the real Wild West. Civil War, gold rush, "Era of Legends" type of stuff. Confederate vs. Union state happenings, more prospector interaction, lots of "Gunslingers" more outlaw vs. lawmen stuff underneath the War, etc. etc. There's still a lot they can mine (no pun intended)
On the gameplay side, they should add more to the economic system of the game. Buying/selling/trading goods and skins should play an integral part of getting money for guns and ammunition. They could also have property and business ownership of brothels, saloons, a mix of both, housing, farms, stables, etc. They can have a Gang customization where you build your fame or infamy and spread it throughout the game. More random events, more animals, more "life" in some of the populated towns, more interplay between rival gangs and sides of the War that don't necessarily involve the player, etc. etc.
Basically what I'm saying is that they should look at where Saints Row, and more importantly ASSASSIN'S CREED are heading, and take some elements from those games. Aside from obvious fixes like animations, smoothing out Euphoria even more, framerate, etc., they can have a real deep experience here that wouldn't be FORCED on the player, but would add tons of value to the experience. Then of course there's stuff like making Free Mode online an extension of the singleplayer world instead of just 16 players in an even more empty "nothing happening" hub, more mission variety (where were my tense "stakeouts" and more stealth missions), more train hijacking, barfights, more options for thievery, etc. etc.
In other words, they should wait for next gen because disc space and ram will hold this sequel back.