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[ggx2ac]

How do you know? Source please?

Apple will unveil the iPhone 7 tomorrow, and it will go on sale worldwide just one week later. Times have changed. Nintendo can easily do the same with NX.

Nintendo aren't Apple, they don't have Nintendo stores scattered around the world to make distribution easy.

They are coming off the Wii U so they are having to sell to retailers a product with a "new concept" that may not be successful.

This is not a mass market product like a Smartphone from Apple. It's a video game machine.

They need retailers to manage inventories and get pre-orders for the NX. Especially when Wii U failed hard, retailers aren't going to risk taking another bomb unless there's good word of mouth and the pre-order figures to prove it.

A 1 week announcement to launch isn't going to guarantee that. All you'll get is a Sega Saturn launch and a new dead console.

 

[GregLombardi]

By the way, it has been so long -- who the heck originally said theyd talk about nx in september? Wasnt it nintendo themselves, or was it a rumor?

 

[DrWong]

By the way, it has been so long -- who the heck originally said theyd talk about nx in september? Wasnt it nintendo themselves, or was it a rumor?

insiderzzzz.

rumor

 

[TunaLover]

By the way, it has been so long -- who the heck originally said theyd talk about nx in september? Wasnt it nintendo themselves, or was it a rumor?

Rumor by eurogamer

 

[Hermii]

I'm still holding out for September. Do you really think Nintendo would delay NX announcement (the future of the company is at stake) because of a few 3ds games (short term profits may or may not be compromised)? Tgs argument I buy but that's only like 3 days I think.

My prediction is late September.

 

[Mysterious]

By the way, it has been so long -- who the heck originally said theyd talk about nx in september? Wasnt it nintendo themselves, or was it a rumor?

Rumor.

Also 3DS, Wii U, Wii Remote conferences were in September.

 

[Astorgh]

What if they haven't announced the NX reveal date...because the NX isn't even real?

That's what 10do.de is trying to warn us. NX was just a joke that got out of hand.

 

[E-phonk]

How do you know? Source please?

Apple will unveil the iPhone 7 tomorrow, and it will go on sale worldwide just one week later. Times have changed. Nintendo can easily do the same with NX.

The iphone also isn't a brand new concept they have to explain, market, advertise, etc - not just with consumers but also with supply chains who have to make buy and inventory decisions and might need some convincing from nintendo after wii U.

Also, the original iphone was shown in january in sold in june, to give you an idea. Their latest big product launch, the iphone watch was revealed in september and shipped april the next year.

They need time, a convincing product, a good and clear marketing story, publicity exposure, hands on not just with the hardware but with all launch games etc to get this right. They can't confuse consumers like they did with Wii U or they'll have another disaster.
They have to market and show the console, the concept, the first party launch games, the third party launch games, the OS, the nintendo network, the games coming after launch, etc.. That's a lot of information to put out there just at once.

Ideally you show the system and concept together with some launch games, and use the period between reveal and launch to show everything bit by bit in a direct, in a magazine/website exclusive, in a mainstream journal, by going on tv shows etc.

Eurogamer said it. Though Sony & Apple having events this month may have pushed Nintendo to delay their plans.

Apple always has a september event, and the NEO reveal in september has been rumoured for months now. I doubt it would influence their plans too much.

 

[Neoxon]

By the way, it has been so long -- who the heck originally said they'd talk about nx in september? Wasn't it nintendo themselves, or was it a rumor?

Eurogamer said it. Though Sony & Apple having events this month may have pushed Nintendo to delay their plans.

 

[BD1]

Maybe September got jammed up with Sony, Apple and TGS and they just decided to move it out of the month.

Spoiler

. Or never planned on September anyways

Nintendo is so weird.

 

[TunaLover]

Maybe September got jammed up with Sony, Apple and TGS and they just decided to move it out of the month.

Spoiler

. Or never planned on September anyways

Nintendo is so weird.

Or maybe eurogamer source is wrong

 

[th3sicknness]

In today's world of social media do you really need to announce a press event?

They could just do a Nintendo Direct and then a press tour with the device. I am starting to think they will do a high quality Direct (like their e3 ones) and announce the concept show the design and a few games.

Then months leading up to the holidays they do press tours with the device. They could also do promotions where if you preorder BOTW on the Wii U then you get a free copy on the NX with purchase of the console. Maybe they do something crazy like apple where they let people pre proder the system prior to launch for home delivery on launch day.

 

[Dark Cloud]

The way people keep talking is as if Nintendo is scared of everything that they'll keep pushing NX until nothing is happening...

September- Apple and Sony event
October- Color Splash release
November- Pokemon S/M release
December- Super Mario Maker 3DS release
January- CES
February- Super Bowl
March- NX release
April- Ughh...oh it's a free month? Now we can reveal the NX!

....

 

[Roto Prime]

In today's world of social media do you really need to announce a press event?

They could just do a Nintendo Direct and then a press tour with the device. I am starting to think they will do a high quality Direct (like their e3 ones) and announce the concept show the design and a few games.

Then months leading up to the holidays they do press tours with the device. They could also do promotions where if you preorder BOTW on the Wii U then you get a free copy on the NX with purchase of the console. Maybe they do something crazy like apple where they let people pre proder the system prior to launch for home delivery on launch day.

The only true way to show off the NX, a Nintendo direct is perfect, everything can be giving enough special attention too. We can drool over that Direct till March...Console or Handheld.

 

[jmizzal]

Emily said NX schedule is ahead so she thinks it won't launch delayed. Nintendo stated the March launch several times already. I don't think it will be delayed personally.

Thinking that Zelda: BotW will launch right alongside NX on the other hand is an assumption. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to launch it in November or so. They only announced the launch date for Zelda as 2017. (I hope it's earlier than November of course.)

No way they are gonna drag out Zelda until next Nov. They are already releasing daily teases for the game, you can really kill hype for a game if you sit on it for so long.

 

[casey_contra]

No way they are gonna drag out Zelda until next Nov. They are already releasing daily teases for the game, you can really kill hype for a game if you sit on it for so long.

Agreed, plus the impression I got during E3 is that the game is all but finished...

 

[Gleethor]

They dedicated an entire e3 to Zelda, it'd be embarrassing if it still wasn't out by next e3.

 

[Dystify]

No way they are gonna drag out Zelda until next Nov. They are already releasing daily teases for the game, you can really kill hype for a game if you sit on it for so long.

I'm just saying a huge game like Zelda deserves a release when it has a high potential to sell more. But I don't want it to happen and it wasn't a prediction either. They're probably gonna go with Mario Christmas 2017.

 

[th3sicknness]

No way they are gonna drag out Zelda until next Nov. They are already releasing daily teases for the game, you can really kill hype for a game if you sit on it for so long.

I dont think there is anyway in hell they release the NX without Zelda IMO. I think the NX launch is mutually exclusive to the release of BOTW. They either both come out or get delayed together.

Both the 3ds / Wii U had failed launches do to weak software launches and Nintendo has stated they have "learned" from there mistake.. No way they dont release together. Hence if one is delayed the other will be as well.

 

[Father_Brain]

Nintendo aren't Apple, they don't have Nintendo stores scattered around the world to make distribution easy.

They are coming off the Wii U so they are having to sell to retailers a product with a "new concept" that may not be successful.

This is not a mass market product like a Smartphone from Apple. It's a video game machine.

They need retailers to manage inventories and get pre-orders for the NX. Especially when Wii U failed hard, retailers aren't going to risk taking another bomb unless there's good word of mouth and the pre-order figures to prove it.

A 1 week announcement to launch isn't going to guarantee that. All you'll get is a Sega Saturn launch and a new dead console.

I'm doubtful that a reveal->launch timeframe shorter than five months is even possible. I think six months is the shortest we've seen to date.

I won't rule out the possibility completely, but I really doubt the reveal will be any later than mid-October.

 

[jmizzal]

September belongs to Sony now, it's october then.

Sony doesnt need a full month, maybe this week is Sony and Apple, next week Nintendo and TGS

I dont think there is anyway in hell they release the NX without Zelda IMO. I think the NX launch is mutually exclusive to the release of BOTW. They either both come out or get delayed together.

Both the 3ds / Wii U had failed launches do to weak software launches and Nintendo has stated they have "learned" from there mistake.. No way they dont release together. Hence if one is delayed the other will be as well.

The person I was replaying to was saying even if the NX comes in March Zelda may still come out in Nov, which makes no sense at all

 

[MuchoMalo]

no to team e3 2017

yes to the rest

#januaryreveal
#nintendolied
#novemberlaunch
#nsmbfornx

Sorry, but I have to ask again: Why do you think Nintendo lied? What do they get out of lying?

 

[maxcriden]

If they were to do a live event reveal on September 29th and wanted to give press a 3 weeks notice then invites would go out this Thursday.

And this is thinking the worst because they could send invites only two weeks out or do a Nintendo Direct and only give us one week notice. I don't understand where all this "it's not going to be September is coming from".

Plus, some do please correct me if this is incorrect, but my understanding is that they could put press under embargo regarding discussing an invite publicly. Meaning, it's possible it already went out.

 

[James Scott]

IIRC, Skyward Sword was finished way before November but they strategically delayed it (despite it not working out so well since it was up against Skyrim and other big November games on a system people weren't too keen on anymore)
I guess they could do something similar, but I believe the rumor is that Mario and Pokemon are due within the first year. Would they really have none of those at launch and all like the second half of 2017? I sure do hope Zelda is ready by launch, the Wii U version seemed pretty finished, needed a few months of polish for the frame rate and they'll have like 10 months of dev time since that build was completed.

 

[Koozek]

What if the NX was the Neo all along and that's the rumored September reveal?

 

[L Thammy]

NX reveal was pretty amazing. What were your favourite game reveals?

 

[maxcriden]

I think we are all under the impression that Zelda / NX will be launched in March 2017 without delay. The real question is if the NX gets delayed does Zelda as well?

I agree with most publications it has to be this month because they need to set their marketing team up for success. You cant just spawn a system a couple months before release and hope it sells gangbusters you need a marketing campaign.

Yes, if NX is delayed (which I don't think it will be), Zelda will be delayed till it can launch simultaneously. They won't want to limit the NX appeal by launching it on Wii U first. With Twilight Princess, it came out on Wii before GCN, presumably for the same reason. Of note, Zelda isn't confirmed for March, but I expect it to launch then, alongside NX.

 

[Speely]

NX reveal was pretty amazing. What were your favourite reveals?

NX was pretty good, but the Saturn reveal is still the GOAT.

 

[L Thammy]

My favourite part was where Reggie drew the GameCube symbol in goat blood and sacrificed twelve Amiibo to summon the NX from the underworld.

 

[Mr Swine]

What if the NX was the Neo all along and that's the rumored September reveal?

I don't think Nintendo wants to get screwed by Sony again after Snes CD fiasco

 

[maxcriden]

most consoles are announced and released after one holiday and before the next. see: ps4, xbox one

nintendo doesn't seem to grasp this concept for some reason. so every time they try to sell us something for the wii u and 3ds, they have to come out and explicitly say "sorry, we aren't talking about nx today" or the people who are actually watching these videos cry about the lack of nx.

Most consoles =/= two recent consoles

That hasn't been true for nearly any other prior console IIRC

 

[th3sicknness]

What if the NX was the Neo all along and that's the rumored September reveal?

It would be some shizzle if the NX was essentially Nintendo's version of steam and will only work if you buy their proprietary controller.. To be released with the iphone 7 / Neo / Scorpio lol...

 

[Steph_E.]

Speaking of this, it hit me last night. Wii launched with Zelda TP and Wii Sports. NX will launch with Zelda BoW and probably Mario Sports. And has motion controls. Only Red Steel is missing.

It's funny you should say that...

 

[mikeyvids]

This is going to be me I just know it

 

[KingSnake]

It's funny you should say that...

Go on ...

 

[Dark Cloud]

Plus, some do please correct me if this is incorrect, but my understanding is that they could put press under embargo regarding discussing an invite publicly. Meaning, it's possible it already went out.

They could be under NDA. Nate Drake said he would tell us when he got an invite, but if he's under NDA I know he's not going to tell us.

If somebody knows they could PM me

 

[Oersted]

September belongs to Sony now, it's october then.

Apple. As always. But point in case, you can coexist.

 

[Steph_E.]

Go on ...

Only joking

Wish I did know something

 

[Oersted]

I believe the rumor is that Mario and Pokemon are due within the first year.

First 6 months.

 

[mikeyvids]

Apple. As always. But point in case, you can coexist.

OT it would be interesting to see rumored iPhone VR vs New PS4s & PSVR

 

[Steph_E.]

The Nintendo Classic Mini: NES looks to do well too, even though it seems to be a niche product with Nintendo having underestimated demand quite a bit.

That's why they haven't had the NX reveal yet - absolutely everybody from Kimi down is too busy stuffing the Mini NES's into boxes ready for Christmas.

 

[MuchoMalo]

OT it would be interesting to see rumored iPhone VR vs New PS4s & PSVR

There's no reason to compare mobile VR to PSVR.

 

[DizzyCrow]

Can they at least allow devs announce NX games at TGS?

 

[RobFox64tm]

Nintendo's silence on NX seems pretty crazy. At this point, I can't imagine Nintendo releasing new hardware as early as March. I hate to be negative, but I feel pretty confident that isn't going to happen now. If there really is a delay, it will be holiday 2017 I'm sure. That would mean a reveal likely won't happen until early next year or possibly even E3. I hope I'm wrong, but Nintendo's refusal to talk about this damn thing is discouraging.

What makes this whole situation worse is that as more and more speculation and hype build, expectations will be harder to meet. We are also reaching the point now where many have either lost interested or stopped caring entirely. I understand Nintendo wants to be more careful in presenting this new hardware, but I feel that conservatism may have already done some damage.

We shall see what happens though.

 

[andythinkpad]

Not sure why anyone expected it before the Sony event tomorrow. Let Dell, Apple, and Sony fight it out for a few days and announce an event for late September/October. MS had the same time frame from reveal to launch, but MS also had e3 just a few weeks after. Nintendo doesn't so having one really big event 5 months before launch could also make sense.
I think #TeamJanuary is also silly. That's way too late and it would only make sense if it was delayed but Emily's article says it's ahead of scheduel.
Though that Nintex guy did say late November due to Pokemon, but that sounds like a bad idea as well

This tactic only works if you have a product that's more attractive to the announcements before you.

That's why every year the crappier brands always announce their flagship phones in CES or even in Jan, Samsung show their stuff after CES. They all know each other's secret products because they are all made in Guangdong.

 

[Plinko]

There is zero reason October isn't as good a time as any to reveal the system.

 

[Samemind]

Can they at least allow devs announce NX games at TGS?

Surely they could let multiplatforms get announced, since we have some announcements already.

 

[Aostia]

Can they at least allow devs announce NX games at TGS?

Many games.for nintendo platforms aren't announce at TGS anyway, preferring Famitsu or direct instead

So...

 

[James Scott]

First 6 months.

They are not releasing Mario and Pokemon by October. I'm guessing they mean by the first holiday.

 

[psyfi]

Baseless prediction: Nintendo will reveal the date of the NX announcement today. Not so much because they want to take attention away from Sony, but because fans will think they're trying to take attention away from Sony. We all know gamers love gamer drama.