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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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It's not even a standard. It's just something PS4/XB1 did (well, PS4 was 9 months). Nearly all other prior consoles have done more than 6 months. We're potentially still at > 6 months at this point regardless. March 31, 2017 is a Friday.
Nothing is standard is my point.
They could show it at the end of October and still have enough time.
 

Azoo

Neo Member
I hate the logic that Nintendo can do no wrong and is definitely handling things correctly no matter what. After how they handled the Wii U pre-launch and launch, should they really be given the benefit of the doubt? If they're not ready to reveal 6 months before launch it's because they've done something wrong.

Acting under the pretense that Nintendo can and most likely will do everything wrong isn't much fun to discuss either.

Honestly I'm not sure why discussion keeps going in here when it's become so cyclical that it's not even fun or interesting to talk about or make mockups anymore. Nintendo's gonna announce this anytime between now and late October I imagine, and all it feels like we're gonna do in here is dip further and further into insanity as each day passes lmao.
 

oti

Banned
So no news today? Fuck. FUCKITY FUCK

- Reggie, where dem NX news at?
- They're here, Raiden1018.
*Reggie touches Raiden1018's heart*
- What do you mean they're here, Reggie? That's just my heart.
- No, Raiden1018, it's way more than that. Because you know, here's where dem NX news are at. You are the NX news.
*Raiden1018's digivice begins to glow, his Digimon digivolves from a cat to a giant fox with two rocket launchers*
 
I hate the logic that Nintendo can do no wrong and is definitely handling things correctly no matter what. After how they handled the Wii U pre-launch and launch, should they really be given the benefit of the doubt? If they're not ready to reveal 6 months before launch it's because they've done something wrong.

I think the logic is the exact opposite of this, it's more like they don't want to blow it again by rushing like the Wii U, so they're taking their sweet time with it
 

GamerJM

Banned
Nothing is standard is my point.
They could show it at the end of October and still have enough time.

I agree with this, but if they wait until January/February and keep the March launch then yeah I'm going to be really skeptical. I'm not saying they can't pull off success with that reveal model but it seems colossally dumb to wait up until a couple months before the thing launches, which could affect public perception in numerous ways (not long enough to get the messaging out potentially, potential misinformation spread, hell aren't there still certain devs that want but don't have dev kits?).
 

Gaspard

Member
This is the era of individuals and social media disseminating information for companies.

Nintendo could introduce the NX at the end of October and still be fine in my opinion.
 
I agree with this, but if they wait until January/February and keep the March launch then yeah I'm going to be really skeptical. I'm not saying they can't pull off success with that reveal model but it seems colossally dumb to wait up until a couple months before the thing launches, which could affect public perception in numerous ways (not long enough to get the messaging out potentially, potential misinformation spread, hell aren't there still certain devs that want but don't have dev kits?).

Most people who will want it won't be able to afford it on the spot if it's that early. 6 months or even 5 is enough for a lot of people to save money for it for either at launch or shortly after, assuming there are no shortages. I do assume there will be shortages though, it took me a month to get my PS4.
 
I agree with this, but if they wait until January/February and keep the March launch then yeah I'm going to be really skeptical. I'm not saying they can't pull off success with that reveal model but it seems colossally dumb to wait up until a couple months before the thing launches, which could affect public perception in numerous ways (not long enough to get the messaging out potentially, potential misinformation spread, hell aren't there still certain devs that want but don't have dev kits?).

I don't think Nintendo wants to repeat a Sega Saturn, but the long silence is really worrying
 
I hate the logic that Nintendo can do no wrong and is definitely handling things correctly no matter what. After how they handled the Wii U pre-launch and launch, should they really be given the benefit of the doubt? If they're not ready to reveal 6 months before launch it's because they've done something wrong.

Its more like you love jumping to conclusions lol.

Also when has anyone said Nintendo can do no wrong? Its quite the opposite actually with people negatively saying Nintendo has lost it by not saying anything. That there is going to be a fucking delay. It seems to me that people are going nuts over hardware that hasn't been revealed.

Seriously people be patient, just because the NX hasn't been revealed yet doesn't mean world has ended. Do something productive while waiting lmao.
 
I 100% have a good image of that this device will look like in my mind, but are there any good mockups made? I wouldn't mind seeing how some brought a visualization of this to life.
 

BitStyle

Unconfirmed Member
So did Emily state that the retail NX was supposed to be region free, or did she only hear that the dev-kit was?
 

TannerDemoz

Member
Nintendo Gamecube turns 15 on September 14th.

NX announcement September 14th

NX is actually called Nintendo CUBE

NX will have four detachable units that come together to make a cube.

Handle will be 3x bigger than Nintendo Gamecube and also detachable.

(Console unit doubles up as suitcase)
 
Nintendo's silence on NX seems pretty crazy. At this point, I can't imagine Nintendo releasing new hardware as early as March. I hate to be negative, but I feel pretty confident that isn't going to happen now. If there really is a delay, it will be holiday 2017 I'm sure. That would mean a reveal likely won't happen until early next year or possibly even E3. I hope I'm wrong, but Nintendo's refusal to talk about this damn thing is discouraging.

What makes this whole situation worse is that as more and more speculation and hype build, expectations will be harder to meet. We are also reaching the point now where many have either lost interested or stopped caring entirely. I understand Nintendo wants to be more careful in presenting this new hardware, but I feel that conservatism may have already done some damage.

We shall see what happens though.

I agree with you. I think something either happened to delay production, or some other form of delay. They have stayed silent for so long, it no longer fills me with confidence. I actually feel like they may be in some form of mad scramble and disarray.

I also feel that this is Nintendo's last stand as a console maker. Excluding the NES classic, which I assume will be sell enough to get Snes classic, N64 classic, and at least Wii classic down the road. I also feel they could get low cost handheld classics as well.

I feel the longer the silence goes and Apple, Sony, and Microsoft all announce new systems or updates, it takes the spot light off of Nintendo more and more. I don't believe that Nintendo should announce NX on the backs of Sony and Apples announcements. But in an ideal world and if they truly are launching in March 2k17, IMO they should have demo units or by Xmas like N64 did back in the day. Star building hype and momentum.

I also feel the longer this goes, the more and more they will chase the mythical pot of gold at the end of the iOS and Android rainbow.
 
So did Emily state that the retail NX was supposed to be region free, or did she only gear that the dev-kit was?

She said the devkit was, which may indicate that the retail product will be. Iwata and others had made a few comments about region locking in the last few years that make it seem like Nintendo is finally seeing the light, just too late to do anything about the already-launched Wii U and 3DS.
 

Hermii

Member
The problem is supposed to be emulating MAESTRO or whatever it is that is in the PICA200 because it uses fixed shaders, not programmable shaders. Where how it does processing affects without affecting performance badly.

Edit: The things listed under MAESTRO in this link: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=21992416

Edit 2: Here, go to question 8, the word I was looking for was 'fixed shaders' because the PICA200 uses fixed shaders not programmable shaders since it helps with performance so the difficulty may be from emulating it.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/101029qa/03.html
Reading Iwatas reply to that question reminds me how much I miss this guy. The last few investors meetings never had a reply that came even close and I can't imagine Kimi is capable of it.
 

FZZ

Banned
I'm holding out hope for an announcement after Sony's conference

so for me the last day I can see them realistically annoucing the date for the reveal would September 8 at 11:59pm

that is if the WSJ rumor of them announcing it before TGS is true

Y'all are forgetting Apple is also having a conference tomorrow, Nintendo will want as many eyes and ears on them as possible
 

Hermii

Member
I'm holding out hope for an announcement after Sony's conference

so for me the last day I can see them realistically annoucing the date for the reveal would September 8 at 11:59pm

that is if the WSJ rumor of them announcing it before TGS is true

Y'all are forgetting Apple is also having a conference tomorrow, Nintendo will want as many eyes and ears on them as possible
The wsj rumor was "analysts predicts". Analysts are people like Pachter.
 

Dystify

Member
I'm holding out hope for an announcement after Sony's conference

so for me the last day I can see them realistically annoucing the date for the reveal would September 8 at 11:59pm

that is if the WSJ rumor of them announcing it before TGS is true

Y'all are forgetting Apple is also having a conference tomorrow, Nintendo will want as many eyes and ears on them as possible

That wasn't a rumor at all, but simply a prediction by some analyst. It means more than if anyone here predicted the reveal date, but not by much. (Many analysts do have more knowledge than the general public, but it didn't sound like it in this case.)
 

BitStyle

Unconfirmed Member
I enjoy this typo.

All her info is devkit stuff, though she says she doesn't expect much will change for whatever it's worth.

She said the devkit was, which may indicate that the retail product will be. Iwata and others had made a few comments about region locking in the last few years that make it seem like Nintendo is finally seeing the light, just too late to do anything about the already-launched Wii U and 3DS.
Aww, lowered expectations it is!
Thanks for the clarification.
 

Not

Banned
It's not even a standard. It's just something PS4/XB1 did (well, PS4 was 9 months). Nearly all other prior consoles have done more than 6 months. We're potentially still at > 6 months at this point regardless. March 31, 2017 is a Friday.

Yeah this thing is coming out in November 2017 y'all.
 

Clefargle

Member
Aaah, NX GAF is getting darker and danker as the weeks pass without anything official. It's aging nicely, like fine wine, or great cheese, or a festering wound.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Probably a good time to do it then? I feel like since there isn't any news on NX we can lock this thread until Nintendo announces it later this month, end of year or early next year

While I understand the mods doing it, I don't understand people like you asking for it. You can always ignore these threads and let others discuss as much as they want if they wish that.
 
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System 1 unit that serves as a Console / Portable
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newest Nvidia Pascal Mobile chip)
720p On the go / 1080p when docked at home
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).
 

Dystify

Member
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System (Console / Portable)
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newst chip)
720p Portable / 1080p Console
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

Can you source your rumors? I haven't seen any credible source talk about region locking and a 1080p console. Just interested, maybe I missed it somehow.

Edit: Nevermind, I misunderstood you.
 
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System 1 unit that serves as a Console / Portable
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newest Nvidia Pascal Mobile chip)
720p On the go / 1080p when docked at home
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

I'm a Nintendo fan and I'm very excited about the NX, but I have to agree with you ^_^

Anyway, I just want some Nintendo games. The specs and stuff don't really matter to me. If Nintendo suddenly cancels the NX and decides to stick with the Wii U, I'll still be happy.
 

Genio88

Member
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System (Console / Portable)
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newest Nvidia Pascal Mobile chip)
720p Portable / 1080p Console
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

I don't agree with a few things, though i think that it'll have the "old" Tegra K1 CPU either, the newer one would be too expensive and this console is gonna be cheap, Nintendo is known for putting price and peculiarity in front of raw performance and latest hardware. Also you have to understand that the K1 chip NX uses will be heavily customized so no point in comparing it with the one which is into the Nvidia Shield, just like Xbox One and PS4 have custom AMD CPU /CPU, they're not the same AMD make for PC, they're customized versions, PS4 GPU is a custom Radeon HD 7870 for example.
That's all my personal opinion, could be totally wrong but i think you'll be disappointed if you expect the latest Tegra and great graphical perfomance and 1080p from NX
 
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System 1 unit that serves as a Console / Portable
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newest Nvidia Pascal Mobile chip)
720p On the go / 1080p when docked at home
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).


More like GAF is always disappointed. These days its only about muh graphics power and extreme 4k fidelity. I mean when Breath of the Wild released its trailer for E3 people were basically bitching and saying it looks like a game from 2008. Honestly that Zelda thread was horrible, although it did get better as we got more gameplay. Seriously the days where gameplay matters most has been increasingly going down the drain and more about cinematic experiences. Yes this may not be true everywhere but to me it feels like it.

Is more power good? Yes I can't deny that but there's a point where power levels over how strong something is can get really annoying

Edit: Aside from my post we should always keep our expectations in check for every product. Hype is one dangerous thing.
 

Samemind

Member
I think we all need to take a step back and see what Nintendo has given us during all rumor phases... In almost 99% of what they have released we have been let down.. The specs and features are always a fraction of what is discussed.

Think of the things we are talking about.

Hybrid System 1 unit that serves as a Console / Portable
Unified Software (Console / Portable IP same system)
Tegra Code name Parker (Newest Nvidia Pascal Mobile chip)
720p On the go / 1080p when docked at home
Detachable Controllers
Region Free
Dock for charging and TV hookup seamless transition


Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

Well, you know, my entire purchase decision hinges on whether the device is region free so let's hope that much ends up true.
 
We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

You are seriously, dangerously underestimating the Tegra K1.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
As times have changed, I can't see why they would not have Region-free as a feature for the platform. Iwata seemed to warm up to that as well.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
I added a note to my NX rumor list:

  • NOTE: This thread may be closed soon, which means I cannot edit this comment anymore then. A link to the fully updated list can be found as pinned Tweet on my Twitter at https://Twitter.com/Dystify.

Dystify, I noticed your post lacks something that was briefly mentioned here, but I'll say it again.

http://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/wii-u-update-and-3ds-news.48755/

In this thread on the official Terraria forum, started by a representant of 505 Games, not only the final Wii U update and the upcoming one for 3DS were detailed, but there was an out-of-nowhere NX reference, especially considering the wording.

The logic for being unable to further update Wii U is, regrettably, the same as the ‘old gen’ machines – though the Wii U does admittedly have more resources than the 360/PS3, it is still a fraction as capable as PS4 and Xbox One, and we need all their available horsepower to take Terraria where we want to go next. This version will still be able to play online, so you can continue to enjoy it as long as you’re gaming on the Wii U platform. By the time the next update rolls out on PS4/Xbox One we’ll be very close to the launch of NX… But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

It's possible this is a subtle tease for Terraria on NX.
 
More like GAF is always disappointed. These days its only about muh graphics power and extreme 4k fidelity. I mean when Breath of the Wild released its trailer for E3 people were basically bitching and saying it looks like a game from 2008. Honestly that Zelda thread was horrible, although it did get better as we got more gameplay. Seriously the days where gameplay matters most has been increasingly going down the drain and more about cinematic experiences. Yes this may not be true everywhere but to me it feels like it.

Is more power good? Yes I can't deny that but there's a point where power levels over how strong something is can get really annoying

Edit: Aside from my post we should always keep our expectations in check for every product. Hype is one dangerous thing.

I think BOTW looks great to be honest.. the only gripe I have are the fps slow downs you see in almost every video (I know the game isnt done yet).

Fundamentally Nintendo lacks key features that don't allow their consoles to be commercial successes. As long as they continue to think they are their own market they wont ever return to the top imo.

Getting a completely portable device with equal to better graphic quality than a Wii U would be a technical marvel imo. What we are expecting hasn't been done by any company with great IP. We are expecting a whole hell of lot from a company that never delivers that kind of technical achievement.

I have scaled my expectations back to thinking we are going to get a more enhanced portable experience that can be projected to the television.
 

ASIS

Member
I love how today most posts today were all about the 10do rumor. Like, most of us are fully aware that there will be no direct today, it would be completely irrational for Nintendo to do so. But deep down, every one of you posters were hoping to be surprised today. Me included.

It's ok, you can let your emotions out, we can all cry together.
 

Vena

Member
Now lets bring it back to reality..

We are going to essentially get a Wii U tablet with the internals of the 3ds bumped up to be able to play Wii games at 720p and 3ds games at 540p. It will be region locked and will use the Tegra K1 chipset (what is currently in the older shield tablet).

Nothing about this realistic. This is so extremely anti-WUST that is fell off into complete nonsense.

This very thread effectively nullifies the entire premise as presented here.
 
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