cash_longfellow
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Shit be getting spoiled way ahead of time these days…realistically what is even the point of spending the money or resources on these shows anymore?
Think that's called the VGA.
Seriously though, with everything going digital now, why do these shows even exist? I was shocked to see GK turning SGF into a Iive show. Honesty can't see the point. He is slowly turning SGF into the monster that E3 became.
Soon there will be booths so attendees can play games and showgirls, and then each major platform holder has their own conference.....
See, E3.
Stay around long enough and watch yourself become the villain.
Shit be getting spoiled way ahead of time these days…realistically what is even the point of spending the money or resources on these shows anymore?
That’s becoming more and more a distant memoryTo have fun. Remember, that's what gaming used to be about.
I am against where it is going.I don't see one issue in your post. But it seems like you are against it. Why? It being a live show made it that much better.
Yeah ngl we can shit on his shows to our hearts content but that man is getting PAID lol. You would’ve told me this guy would be the face of gaming 10 years ago I would’ve laughed in your face but… here we are lol.Guy went from co-hosting a niche g4 show to becoming the singular most prolific host of a 200 billion dollar industry.
But the games that are being spoiled and shown aren’t fun (for the most part, not all).To have fun. Remember, that's what gaming used to be about.
They absolutely need cross pollination though, and something bigger than showcases that drums up enthusiasm.Are they skipping because they don't have things to show or because they think they don't get any value from it?
If the latter, I think, sadly, it makes sense.
Games come in so white hot now and gamers are so critical of technical problems that putting early demos on a show floor is unlikely to yield great PR. So no need to have a stand on a show floor.
If a digital presence is enough to get the clicks then it's probably cheaper, more efficient and more easy to control if you just do your own pre recorded show.
I assume that Geoff's shows could quite easily end up being third party only, and then quite quickly be nothing as platform holders run their own streams - which they already do. I have no idea how much Geoff is charging to have a game featured on the show, but if Microsft/Nintendo/Sony wanted to, they could do it for free as part of promoting their platform. I assume that the model Geoff used could at some people bring his own shows to a close, just as he seems to be doing with E3 and other shows.
Hope it will be somewhere this year. Since I play on pc the wait for the actual game could be awhile.Tokyo Game Show is still a thing, isn't it?
State of plays are not showcases lol
They are not obligated, but they are nothing without their consumer base. Are they leading the charge? Yes. But that doesn't mean we as consumers don't get to have expectations. And when you skip so many opportunities to present it does not give a feeling of optimism.
I'm not doom and gloom about Sony, but waiting this long to be updated about ANY first party games I've been following sucks. And based on the reactions I saw from others after the conference I'm not the only one that feels that way.
Yeah I can understand that. I guess at the end of the day I just hope they take the tome to realize that their consumers didn't think their showcase lived up to the hype. That happens often. I do believe there's a level of expectation that gets their audience hyped for what's to come. If you ask me they haven't brought the excitement for titles that we know are in development.Its not like they are boycotting the show; as in forbidding their partners and their product from appearing. Its simply that they are electing not to have a major brand presence -typically a marquee booth or presser- at the event. An expensive marketing exercise that very likely doesn't have much in the way of end-result in terms of mindshare and sales enhancement.
Times have changed; as the majority of the market consumes games news and updates digitally the value of events like E3 and GamesCom have declined.
You might miss those days, that's fair enough. But it has to be recognized that even the golden age of E3 was an evolution of what once was a closed trade-only fair where chain-retailer buyers went to see what to stock for the holiday season. A change that was driven primarily by games becoming all-year-round products making the original purpose redundant.
I think most people here would have preferred an E3 style presentation over the shitshow that was shown by Sony a few weeks back.
These shows do often leave us as gamers feeling disappointed. But as a personal anecdote I wanted to be excited because it doesn't feel much like there's been much substance since covid affected everything. I'm sure they're more considering the monetary requirement that goes into these shows and that's their prerogative. But again, as a gamer I'm left with the feeling of wanting more and I think that sentiment echos throughout the gaming community. Whether it's Sony or not.
But the games that are being spoiled and shown aren’t fun (for the most part, not all).
But believe me, I remember. I’m having fun playing through Dragon Quest VIII again as we speak.
Also - me saying spending money or resources on these shows..that quote was directed toward gaming companies that use resources to appear at them, not the gamers.
I totally get where you're coming from, but realistically I think regular, shorter video presentations like the State Of Plays are what should be expected going forward.
The old way is just not practical from a production standpoint and ineffective from a marketing perspective. Attention spans are too short, and the gaps between major releases are too big. Simple as that.
The kid like joy is what most of us long for. I care about being spoiled because I like surprises…not just that, but I hate internet clout chasers that feel like they have to be the first to break the news (spoilers), and destroy the other side of the surprise, more importantly, the surprise that hundreds of devs look to give to people looking for “kid-like joy”…that they legitimately worked their asses off on, for 4+years. But it’s all good…it’s all about You, right?If you are spoiled then that's your fault. But and most importantly who cares if you know a game will be at an event. The part that should really matter is seeing how good it looks and fun it plays. I think social media has killed the kid-like joy some of yall used to have when it comes to video games.
The kid like joy is what most of us long for. I care about being spoiled because I like surprises…not just that, but I hate internet clout chasers that feel like they have to be the first to break the news (spoilers), and destroy the other side of the surprise, more importantly, the surprise that hundreds of devs look to give to people looking for “kid-like joy”…that they legitimately worked their asses off on, for 4+years. But it’s all good…it’s all about You, right?
And the only console manufacturer that continues to attend to it is... the American one. Both Nintendo and Sony stopped going to TGS in recent years.Tokyo Game Show is still a thing, isn't it?
I agree with that. I’ve never once personally been turned off or turned on to a game due to a showcase…unless it was a game I didn’t anticipate was happening. I’m only really referring to the big surprises that used to happen often with E3 where no one knew a game was happening and just everyone, for that brief moment in time, forgot all about the BS going on in real life and just enjoyed the moment. I know it’s wishful thinking because we are really all so connected now, but those are the moments that made gaming more magical for me.I don't like the spoilers either. I just don't let them ruin my feelings on a showcase. How a game looks and plays still matters to me.
I agree with that. I’ve never once personally been turned off or turned on to a game due to a showcase…unless it was a game I didn’t anticipate was happening. I’m only really referring to the big surprises that used to happen often with E3 where no one knew a game was happening and just everyone, for that brief moment in time, forgot all about the BS going on in real life and just enjoyed the moment. I know it’s wishful thinking because we are really all so connected now, but those are the moments that made gaming more magical for me.
Don’t get me wrong, I still love my games though, it’s just the anticipation of not knowing what was coming that I miss.
They haven’t done Gamescom in years.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone. They’ll do their own thing like they’ve been doing for years.
Think that's called the VGA.
Seriously though, with everything going digital now, why do these shows even exist? I was shocked to see GK turning SGF into a Iive show. Honesty can't see the point. He is slowly turning SGF into the monster that E3 became.
Soon there will be booths so attendees can play games and showgirls, and then each major platform holder has their own conference.....
See, E3.
Stay around long enough and watch yourself become the villain.
The bolded is just untrue.
Remember these days? I miss them so much!
Nintendo's RETURN (2004)
“My name is Reggie. I’m about kicking ass, I’m about taking names, and we’re about making games”
FF VII Remake reveal (2015)
Miyamoto's Twilight Princess Reveal
Kingdom Hearts 3 Reveal
There are to many fangroups to please. The ones who aren't will beat on their keyboard to tell the internet how bad it was.
Then of course the warriors with a debt to settle. Have you seen the live threads? Every other comment is from a warrior.
Too much drama. I watched the last one by myself without being on a forum and overall enjoyed it and then I got online