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RESIDENT EVIL 6 |OT| No Trope Left
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Yeah there is...
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
I might get the anthology. I was never much of a RE fan, and haven't beaten any of the games. 6 games for $90, not a bad deal
Terrible cover art, terrible disc cover, no booklet. I wish this was on PSN day one.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
You are in luck...
No shit? Awesome. If companies are going to do a physical release at all, I wish they'd at least try to make them look nice and come with manual.
Edit: Eh, I guess it's euro only. You guys get the nice tall oaks hoodie and day one PSN, it's no fair.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
It is in europe.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Seems so... if you're in EU you can pre-order and preload for Day1.
For the US we had a post a few pages back saying they are planning for Day1 release (but nothing about pre-order and preload)
It's just a way to make the price of games go down and give us a bang for our bucks...(sarcastic grin)...I hate this also.
Manuals haven't been worth anything since the days of Claw Marks and the book that came with M1 Tank Platoon.
Alright, fair enough. That certainly makes more sense, however I still think a lot of that information is spotty, isn't there footage of the zombie outbreak being shown on news broadcasts in both Degeneration and Outbreak?
Never said anything about being "Deep", it's the fact that the characters have almost no defining personalities. Leon is completely different from appearance to appearance. In RE2 is he's a to the point "protect the innocent" rookie cop, in RE4 he's an overly cocky 1 liner spewing machine, in Degeneration he's a stoic robot that displays little to no emotion. It's hard to even call him simply an archetype because he's never the same. That is shitty writing.
OK, I'm finally enjoying the demo a bit more. It takes a while to get used to, but once you get the controls down, it starts to resemble a good game.
They clearly put a lot of thought into the different mechanics but they are so different from the norm. On the surface, they feel clunky, but I think there is some depth to be found.
That said, the camera is still way too close and the game too chaotic. Handing guns to the enemies was not a good idea either, I feel.
Regarding the framerate, well, it's not perfect but it's better than I gave it credit for. I believe what REALLY hurts the experience the most is actually the way they handle camera motion while moving. If you simply jog forward (not sprint) you'll notice that the camera actually lurches along in time to your steps rather than smoothly gliding like most games. This simply change actually makes the game seem less smooth than it actually is.
Now, when you couple this with the segment where the framerate DOES dip, things start feeling pretty awful. They need to remove that stupid camera lurching. Throwing in some camera motion can look cool but the way they use it here makes the game feel extra janky.
I was also surprised at how well Jake's section runs. I actually feel it is the best looking area in the demo yet it manages a mostly consistent 30 fps on pS3. Leon's section, oddly enough, is both the ugliest and choppiest (outside of the opening bit with Chris).
They clearly put a lot of thought into the different mechanics but they are so different from the norm. On the surface, they feel clunky, but I think there is some depth to be found.
That said, the camera is still way too close and the game too chaotic. Handing guns to the enemies was not a good idea either, I feel.
Regarding the framerate, well, it's not perfect but it's better than I gave it credit for. I believe what REALLY hurts the experience the most is actually the way they handle camera motion while moving. If you simply jog forward (not sprint) you'll notice that the camera actually lurches along in time to your steps rather than smoothly gliding like most games. This simply change actually makes the game seem less smooth than it actually is.
Now, when you couple this with the segment where the framerate DOES dip, things start feeling pretty awful. They need to remove that stupid camera lurching. Throwing in some camera motion can look cool but the way they use it here makes the game feel extra janky.
I was also surprised at how well Jake's section runs. I actually feel it is the best looking area in the demo yet it manages a mostly consistent 30 fps on pS3. Leon's section, oddly enough, is both the ugliest and choppiest (outside of the opening bit with Chris).
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
The manual that came with Dark Cloud 2 was amazing. It was a piece of art.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Aside from the closeness of the camera, this is my primary complaint. The way the camera is rigidly locked to the character makes the game look and feel cheap compared to other AAA games. As we were discussing earlier in the thread, the RE4 camera is locked behind Leon, but it also adapts to your actions, it's not attached to his back at a fixed distance. Most importantly, it functions to give you a useful view of the action while still feeling dynamic. The RE6 camera is all dynamic all the time at the expense of functionality.
I think one of the biggest improvements this generation has been in subtle, careful camerawork that enhances the feel of a game. RE6 is a big step back in this regard.
SkylineRKR
Member
PSN pre-order is 70 euros which is 15 more than I have to pay at the store. I'd rather buy the disc, if I'm tired of it... can always sell it.
No footage. Although even if there were, people wouldn't have known what they were exactly and it would have been likely covered up too.
That's not shitty writing, it's bad localization. Different translators and voice directors = different portrayals. The writing itself (original Japanese scripts) is extremely consistent. Most of Leon's one-liners in RE4 were added by Shinsaku Ohara, the translator and voice director. Hell, the motives of the Los Illuminados and Saddler are completely different between the English and Japanese scripts. There were a lot of US bashing and terrorism references added in the English version, while there was absolutely zero of it in Japanese. The cult itself wants to "cleanse the world" in the English version, while they wanted power in the Japanese one and merely saw the US as holding the most, making it perfect to demonstrate their power to the world.
Leon in BH6 is basically what he was supposed to have been from 4 onwards, but twelve year old humor and poor English comprehension took hold.
It's most certainly shitty writing, the character is completely different from game to game, it's not just simply another "portrayal" of the character, there's not an ounce of consistency. This doesn't just apply to Leon either, it applies to nearly all the characters, none of them can be defined by their personalities, unless they're just a stereotypical archetype.
I just played the demo for this. Goddamn, why are the controls so awful? Worst cover mechanic ever?
Also, I have no clue what's going on around me, specially during the Chris and Wesker Jr. (Lol) section. There's so much shit blowing up I think I'm gonna become deaf.
Very disappointed by what I played.
Also, I have no clue what's going on around me, specially during the Chris and Wesker Jr. (Lol) section. There's so much shit blowing up I think I'm gonna become deaf.
Very disappointed by what I played.
Different from game to game because of bad and differing localizations. You can keep saying it's bad writing all you want, but you're ignoring the fact that the writing you're familiar with isn't even in the original script, which is ultimately what defines the characters and is what the writers themselves actually use when writing later material.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
The general consensus is that the demo needs to be played through a few times until you get a hang of the controls and camera and it stops feeling weird.
MiamiWesker
Member
So what, if the game gets good reviews you will pass it off as the gaming press has no balls and if it gets bad ones you think its cause they are showing their true feelings? What kind of warped mentality is that.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I believe someone said it was like one day before the release date. Bad news for people on the fence with their pre-orders placed.
Vire
Member
I played the demo. I think I know what kind of quality game this is.
If it's anything indicative of the final product, then god have mercy.
But who knows, maybe that demo was an early build, and the game has changed since then. Maybe there's hope?
Thanks for the reply without all the smarmy bullshit.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I know man. If the game gets review scores in the 90s then obviously the press was paid off and I'm going to cancel my pre-order. On the other hand, if it reviews poorly then obviously the game sucks and I will be forced to cancel my pre-order.
leatherhat
Member
I'm a huge RE fan but this game just looks so unappealing.
My cancel is standing by for launch orders.
MiamiWesker
Member
So the Play magazine review states:
"While long-term Resident Evil fans might still be disappointed by the nod towards action over horror, Capcom finally has the confidence and know-how to pull it off. It's big, it's brutal, it's ballsy and most of all, it's back,
Back from what? Where did it go?
"While long-term Resident Evil fans might still be disappointed by the nod towards action over horror, Capcom finally has the confidence and know-how to pull it off. It's big, it's brutal, it's ballsy and most of all, it's back,
Back from what? Where did it go?
Vire
Member
No I'm not saying that they would give it high scores because of being paid off, but rather for respect for such a hallowed franchise in the video game industry. No one would dare give GTA a bad score would they?
What I played of it was a disgrace to the RE name and should be called out appropriately.
MiamiWesker
Member
And I played the same demo and odds are I like it way more than you. If we were to score the demo you would give it a totally different score than me. Would that mean one of us is paid off, would that mean one of us is lying to themselves. Different tastes, different opinions.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Basically this. And I will second the interest on seeing reviewers opinions of this game.
The demo was utterly awful, and if the full game is anything like that then the game doesn't deserve many good scores... then again most reviewers don't have the balls to give any AAA release less than an 8 for simply being "decent" so I'm sure I will be proven wrong -_-
XANDER CAGE
Member
My embargo is October 1st. I think a lot of exclusives are going to come out before that, though.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I'm just messing with you man. I don't trust reviews anyway, so I don't really care how it scores. I just know it's going to be a massive hailstorm of defecation in this thread once the reviews come out.
Well I'm getting the 360 version, and it comes with RE5 Gold Edition, RE4 HD, CV:X HD, and the Degeneration movie. Not a bad deal really, as I never got past the castle in RE4 and I've never played CV:X, while I've played RE1/2/3 already.
Actually I need to figure out what I'm doing with RE5 GE since I already own RE5 on PS3. Maybe I'll sell it and recoup some of my costs.
The PS3 CE doesn't get Code Veronica X or the movie; but the PSone versions of 1, 2, 3 instead.
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In general, Resident Evil 5 is one of my most played games and favorites this gen.
Yet, it was considered as shit by many and a disgrace to the Resident Evil name. From the looks of it, guess '6' will be even better than '5'...to me.
Vire
Member
Thanks, looking forward to it.
The rest of the game can't be as bad as Chris's portion of the demo can it?
I think Polygon excluding RE6 from their fall of gaming list is a hint of what's to come unfortunately: http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/9/24/3358674/polygons-fall-of-gaming-2012
The Xtortionist
Member
I think being able to assault BOWs with wrestling moves is worth 8/10 by itself.
1, 2 and 3 aren't available in XBL and the price for three games isn't that bad either.
It would have been a 9.5 if they had included La Mística from Sin Cara. I fucking swear.
The stream is still pretty good. It's a bit disappointing that the streets are like in RE3 : hallways with door/gate blocking them and requiring the partner to open.
Also weird that there's a QTE everytime a zombie grab you. Either the joystiq one or the press the button when the cursor pass over the desired area type of QTE.
That part of the game is really beautiful though. Lots of thing going on at the same time too.
Also weird that there's a QTE everytime a zombie grab you. Either the joystiq one or the press the button when the cursor pass over the desired area type of QTE.
That part of the game is really beautiful though. Lots of thing going on at the same time too.
Filthy Leonista!
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