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RESIDENT EVIL 6 |OT| No Trope Left
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The Xtortionist
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lolwut
ok, maybe cover
RE6 has way more original mechanics than most TPS.
Vire
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Red Blaster
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Bruce Lee Kicks
Member
58/100 eh? That should make a few people happy.
What? My PSN preorder is 60
I contemplated since I expected 70 but I guess I'll buy it retail, if it's sold out I can just go to the store and dl it
brandonh83
Banned
What's wrong with these things? I'd never defend QTE's though.
Vire
Member
What other game has thumbs up mechanics as good as this!?
It's not that Cover is bad in games, it's how it's implemented. The controls are incredibly clunky and awkward. Definitely one of the worst cover systems I've ever encountered.
The HUD looks like a bad Dead Space ripoff. They copied the vibe but totally ignored why it was great in the first place. (Elegance and lightweight factor)
Run and gun shooting does not belong in Resident Evil...
Tell that to everyone that complained about it not being in 5, and then proclaimed Dead Space as superior survival horror because it had it.
brandonh83
Banned
Yep. People asked for it. Anyway, it makes sense-- characters like Chris Redfield damn well ought to be able to walk and shoot at the same time.
plantedunicorn
Member
I don't think Dead space is really that much of a survival horror but I wouldn't call it a Run n gun either. Seeing as how you have to specifically shoot of their limbs or they won't die.
It doesn't bother me if Resident Evil is Survival Horror or an Action game, I loved both RE4 and RE5, I just want a game that controls as tightly as the Dead space games.
It doesn't bother me if Resident Evil is Survival Horror or an Action game, I loved both RE4 and RE5, I just want a game that controls as tightly as the Dead space games.
TheBanditKing
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Finally finished the demo, loved the Leon section thought the Sherry/Jake section was OK and could really do without Chris's section. At least based off this demo, Chris's part felt a bit too far from the action/horror theme the series has been heading since 4, and too much like a third person military shooter. I will say at least the BOW's are nasty looking, which is an improvement over 4 and 5's mostly human looking enemies. I still don't see why they did not just make the entire game like Leon's section and add in both classic enemies like lickers and hunters along with the new Chrysalis monsters and divide the game up into different sections of the Tall Oaks town.
Red Blaster
Member
But then we have Leon being unable to advance because a chair is blocking his path
it's like that part in MGS1 where Snake can't jump 5 feet down in the Comm Tower
Meatvillain
Banned
Taking a gamble on this because at the very least it should provide a good amount of co-op fun, guess I'm part of the problem. Judging by the demo I'll enjoy at least one third of the game so that's um...
That would have been great.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Has there been any mention of single player campaign DLC like RE Gold?
RE4 did a lot to popularise QTEs anyway, so it isn't really copycat anything there. And if you like QTEs (I assume SOMEONE does) the ones in 6 are actually quite interesting - just adding the little marker that you have to race to the end is a new thing isn't it? I know I am constantly trying to beat the line by more each time when stabbing the horn thing in to the giant B.O.W. by mashing X. And my X mashing skillz have increased immeasurably!
Definitely one of those, one is in question.
5 isn't even a bad game. On the contrary, it's a very good game. It just had the unfortunate honor of following one of the best games ever made and one that almost single-handily setting the standard for future set piece driven games. If the demo is anything to go by, RE6 won't even be a good game. Felt very weird and awkward.In general, Resident Evil 5 is one of my most played games and favorites this gen.
Yet, it was considered as shit by many and a disgrace to the Resident Evil name. From the looks of it, guess '6' will be even better than '5'...to me.
He does have a point about the QTEs though. Shenmue and Die Hard Arcade started em, RE4 made them seem like Capcom was trying to go "the extra mile" to make cutscenes interactive (I dont remember people complaining about them back then either), and then God of War made them a staple in action games.
I honestly dont think they'll go away any time soon...
Dead Space and Dead Space 2 has no run/gun mechanic. It has walk and shoot + evade mechanic and a very effective one at that. Run/gun shooting is something that series like Uncharted has and they perfected that in UC3 because that installment actually encourage you to run/gun and melee your opponent more than hiding behind cover. Unless, of course, you're playing on Crushing. In that case you may want to hide every now and then to recover health.
RE6 seems to try to merge the mechanics of both UC3 and DS2 but the result is questionable at best.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I don't know if this is true with other players besides Sherry... but I just noticed you have more than just the one vanilla melee.
Normally when you run up to someone and hit R1 you have the basic melee... some can do a small combo.
But if you face away from them and hit R1 she does a cool backwards kick. She attacks in the direction the camera is facing instead of the direction the character is facing.
Pretty neat. Before I was trying to "face" every enemy to melee them, but now I realize you can just aim the camera at them and still connect with a melee.
Edit: cool combo with the stun rod... do the normal R1 melee kick (when you have stun rod) and then down on the analog and quickly R1 to follow up with a spin kick... finish with the stun rod when they're on th ground. looks awesome.
Normally when you run up to someone and hit R1 you have the basic melee... some can do a small combo.
But if you face away from them and hit R1 she does a cool backwards kick. She attacks in the direction the camera is facing instead of the direction the character is facing.
Pretty neat. Before I was trying to "face" every enemy to melee them, but now I realize you can just aim the camera at them and still connect with a melee.
Edit: cool combo with the stun rod... do the normal R1 melee kick (when you have stun rod) and then down on the analog and quickly R1 to follow up with a spin kick... finish with the stun rod when they're on th ground. looks awesome.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Which one is the Dead Space ripoff, cause I'm just as confused by what they're trying to do to begin with...
This one?
This one?
Or this one?
I know you mean the last, AKA, Leon's. I just don't understand why they even went to this length to make everything as unclear as possible.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
This game confuses me so much! Both demos were a mess that were way below main RE titles, yet they grew on me. I'm not excited, yet I can't look away. **shrugs**
plagiarize
Banned
so long as the PC version isn't more than 6 months late, I think I can hold out for it.
I CAN DO IT DAMNIT.
I CAN DO IT DAMNIT.
Clairvoyance
Member
Same here. Preordered it anyway since my friend is paying for it.
RE6 has no run and gun mechanic either. It is walk and shoot + evade, though most people would not be familiar with the evasion aspects of the controls without toying with them for a while. At no point in 6 do you shoot while running. You walk slower than any other movement in the game.
Uncharted 3 did not perfect anything. It was less fun, less polished and more annoying than the second game. And it released with busted aiming that had to be patched.
You can criticize RE 6 without rewriting history.
MrCookiepants
Member
Good reviews so far. Haters am cry.
It's small, but I really like that environmental interactions with the melee attacks are contextual.
Ya, I don't even know what that means. For someone who is negative on the game I can think of a lot of colorful adjective to describe it, but I'm not sure how 'bloated' fits into that.
Vire
Member
Four separate campaigns is pretty bloated.
I think your partner still hangs out with you (because you can't progress without them). Lone Wolf only stops them from healing you when you're down and such.
FWIW, I, and and what I perceive to be a growing number of other people, think that some/most/all of the awkwardness is not because the game is bad, but because it takes a while to get used to.
I think that once you get used to it the mechanics show a lot of depth in what they allow you to do and work pretty damn well when you get the hang of them.
I suggest sticking with it. See if there is anything there you think you could, with practice, get used to.
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I guess a lot of it is that they really haven't gone for the 'safe' option here. The have taken risks in a lot of stuff, from the mechanics to the camera positions to making a game three times the length of what you would expect, they have really tried to do new and interesting stuff.
Now, I guess since I think it has paid off and works remarkably well it is easy for me to say this, but I dunno. This is what Change looks like.
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Chris does a... back elbow thingy I think. There really is a whole lot of stuff to discover in the controls. Someone was talking about dodge cancelling with Jake?
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I need to figure out how I did his falcon punch. I did it twice by accident. And a few times I picked a guy up by his feet and flung him -- once into a wall and his head exploded.
When I saw that I was like... "Chris Motherfucking Redfield!"
His section is just as long as a typical TPS so in a way you have a whole game about it. Plus two others. And another bonus.
thehypocrite
Member
Will buy to play as the superior Leon S Kennedy (I played RE4 way too much on the GC), he is the best player character, would have preferred the whole game be about him.
RedAssedApe
Banned
No one can look away from a potential train wreck.
The Xtortionist
Member
I find sliding, dodging/ground gunplay, and melee perfectly fine, and they aren't something most other shooters offer. Cover can be a little iffy but it's pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
Lucent
Member
I really hope this game proves that to be wrong and not a fact of every game that attempts to do that.
Nemesis_
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I have already spoken to Duckroll about this and he has provided a post on the first page.
No need to fight over the format of an OT in here. If you have ideas about how OTs should be and want to discuss that sort of stuff (which is encouraged since it's a community activity), it can be discussed in the |OT| thread in Community. Let's not derail an actual thread over silly stuff like that.
For what it's worth, I am very busy right now and have little to no time to update things as much as I would like. I will condense the OT and remove some irrelevant information following launch, including the Variants and SKUs section and attempt to mainstream it a bit more.
As I said I am not sure why GAF is so up in arms about this considering the OT for the last mainline RE title was 26 posts long and hardly anyone seemed to complain.
More people in this thread are happy with the thread, though three select people on Twitter have seen fit to complain.
I mean what's the problem now - it's easy to skip past the OT as we are well past the first five pages of the thread already.
As I said I will edit it once the game comes out as until then I am too busy and I don't want to just butcher and delete things without making it feel incomplete uncohesive.
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