I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Lol with those I just
used the knife and if one exploded on me I reloaded the save.
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RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard | OT | BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil
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tintin1029
Member
Wow, now I'm super interested in Ethan Must Die
Wanted a bit more random elements in Madhouse mode, but it's great we're getting this instead.
AmethystEnd
Member
Whoa. Ethan Must Die sounds amazing. So does Bedroom, honestly.
Barry Burton
Member
This is pretty much my takeaway from RE7 as well. It's a very good game, but not a great one. I'm obviously thrilled by this direction for RE, but a lot of what RE7 does hits the bare minimum of what Capcom should have been doing the past decade with this series; RE7 is what the Revelations games should have been.
Sure, it's an amazing feeling when you get a few hours in and you realize it's classic RE game design, and it's awesome because it's been such a long time since Capcom has made a game like this. But in taking a step back and looking at the whole game's body of work, it's just not one of the best "one of those." It is a good one, though.
(Spoilers for if you've finished the game...)
Things really did take a turn, though, after the final Jack fight. Everything was built up for a Lucas fight here, and all of a sudden Jack's back out of nowhere? This had "we're saving Lucas for DLC" written all over it. I also thought the Mia/Zoe decision was super-dumb and a lazy excuse for multiple endings. It would be one thing if they developed Zoe at all beyond "she calls you on the phone a few times". And then after the choice (I picked Mia), she and Lucas are both forgotten about for the rest of the game. Bizarre. Even though I don't feel like the game was too long or too short, this strange resolution to the plot made it feel like something was missing.
I actually really liked the Ship location. I wasn't expecting it to be as substantial a section of the game as it was. Taking essentially two passes at it was almost Silent Hill-esque. But boy, the Mines and then the final boss, all of that was terrible. I was drowning in ammo/health after the ship level, and just liberally sprayed bullets all over the glorified shooting gallery that was to come. And then, The Evil Within and now this: what's up with final bosses being practically QTEs, no longer requiring you to save powerful ammo? I hate this trend in survival horror games! Hate it!
That last hour and change was a really terrible way for such a good game to end, and is an even bigger bummer considering how close Capcom got to nailing it.
Things I'd like to see improved on in RE8:
1. Better enemy variety. Similar problem as Revelations, with the ooze enemies. I know zombies are played out, but the molded and the ooze are just crappier versions of them, so you might as well go with the series' staple. A main RE game hasn't had traditional, bona fide RE zombies since RE0. That's insane! As this game went on, not having enemies like lickers or hunters really hurt.
2. More challenging puzzles. I don't need to be stumped by everything like some of the puzzles in RE3, but the puzzles in RE7 are so simple that they might as well not even be there. It's a trend that really started with RE4, and has continued with each game since, where it seems like the developers feel like they have to keep including puzzles "because RE games have to have puzzles", but that their heart isn't in it. The "Happy Birthday" puzzle was pretty good, but nothing else was noteworthy. The clock puzzle and the paintings puzzle were so embarrassing that I can't really understand their inclusion. A riddle difficulty like Silent Hill used to do would go a long way here. Oh, about that:
3. A "Hard" mode available at the start. Madhouse isn't really meant to be played from the start, and RE7's "Normal" gives you waaaaaaaaay too many items and not enough of a penalty for dying and/or hitting "Retry" when things don't go so well. I don't really want an "arrange mode", I just want the threat of losing progress if I die, puzzles that require me to think for more than a few seconds, and actually being scarce on supplies on more than a couple of occasions. Fucking up and having to deal with the consequences of that still totally needs to be a thing.
I actually really liked the Ship location. I wasn't expecting it to be as substantial a section of the game as it was. Taking essentially two passes at it was almost Silent Hill-esque. But boy, the Mines and then the final boss, all of that was terrible. I was drowning in ammo/health after the ship level, and just liberally sprayed bullets all over the glorified shooting gallery that was to come. And then, The Evil Within and now this: what's up with final bosses being practically QTEs, no longer requiring you to save powerful ammo? I hate this trend in survival horror games! Hate it!
That last hour and change was a really terrible way for such a good game to end, and is an even bigger bummer considering how close Capcom got to nailing it.
Things I'd like to see improved on in RE8:
1. Better enemy variety. Similar problem as Revelations, with the ooze enemies. I know zombies are played out, but the molded and the ooze are just crappier versions of them, so you might as well go with the series' staple. A main RE game hasn't had traditional, bona fide RE zombies since RE0. That's insane! As this game went on, not having enemies like lickers or hunters really hurt.
2. More challenging puzzles. I don't need to be stumped by everything like some of the puzzles in RE3, but the puzzles in RE7 are so simple that they might as well not even be there. It's a trend that really started with RE4, and has continued with each game since, where it seems like the developers feel like they have to keep including puzzles "because RE games have to have puzzles", but that their heart isn't in it. The "Happy Birthday" puzzle was pretty good, but nothing else was noteworthy. The clock puzzle and the paintings puzzle were so embarrassing that I can't really understand their inclusion. A riddle difficulty like Silent Hill used to do would go a long way here. Oh, about that:
3. A "Hard" mode available at the start. Madhouse isn't really meant to be played from the start, and RE7's "Normal" gives you waaaaaaaaay too many items and not enough of a penalty for dying and/or hitting "Retry" when things don't go so well. I don't really want an "arrange mode", I just want the threat of losing progress if I die, puzzles that require me to think for more than a few seconds, and actually being scarce on supplies on more than a couple of occasions. Fucking up and having to deal with the consequences of that still totally needs to be a thing.
BareKnuckle
Member
Yeah I'm super excited I always play the bonus modes a lot (I've played most the RE's for over 100 hours cos of the bonus modes) so I'm absolutely buzzing.
I've posted my final verdict to my site.
https://totallyabundant.co.uk/2017/01/30/review-resident-evil-7-biohazard-ps4/
As for the DLC, it sounds amazing. Ethan Must Die sounds like a riot.
https://totallyabundant.co.uk/2017/01/30/review-resident-evil-7-biohazard-ps4/
As for the DLC, it sounds amazing. Ethan Must Die sounds like a riot.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Here's some details on the next Banned Footage Volume 2 DLC stuff:
21:
Daughters:
Jack's 55th Birthday:
21:
Blackjack with Saw/RE7 elements hosted by Lucas. In a game of Blackjack survival pit against other people Lucas has captured with Lucas commentating over the game. While playing Blackjack there's other stuff and dangers you have to survive from as well as you try to be the last survivor of Lucas' twisted game. Has a story mode version and a more 'survival' mode version ala Nightmare in the first Banned Footage batch.
Daughters:
Prologue chapter for RE7 back when the Bakers were human. Play as Zoe. Have to deal with Lucas, who's up to something. Has some puzzle/exploration/story focus, and has three different endings.
Jack's 55th Birthday:
Multi-level mode where Jack sits at a table with a party hat on and demands to be fed. You go around the level with monsters and threats while collecting ingredients, combining them, cooking them correctly, and trying to find clues on what Jack wants. Feed him what he wants and prepare it well and a meter fills, feed him the wrong thing and he pukes it out and meter gets lost. Fill him up to complete the stage and go to the next one. Mode apparently is actually challenging and set over decorated locales from the game, how well you do may or may not unlock joke weapons (like a toy lasergun for a handgun) in the main game.
Yeah, this represents how I feel about the game too, and I agree with your suggested improvements, such as a puzzle difficulty option - you can feel that they are caught between wanting to make engaging puzzles and not wanting to turn RE7 into a puzzle game.
And yeah, the game could have really used
enemies with personality outside of the Baker family. Enemies where I'm developing strategies for defeating them beyond 'aim for the head'.
Overall it was a 7.5/10 experience for me. They built a solid foundation for a modern Resident Evil game that felt true to the series' roots, but
they betray that more and more as the game goes on.
D
Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I'm super paranoid after getting stuck at a boss fairly far into Code Veronica back on Dreamcast that I didn't have enough ammo to beat. The inventory management, worry about ammo and health packs is my least favorite part of these games. It was fine in RE7 though, I had plenty--though I also mostly ran from Molded during the first three quarters of the game in case I needed more for bosses which ended up not being an issue as there's plenty of shotgun shells etc. At least on Normal.
BareKnuckle
Member
Jacks Birthday sounds amazing. Cannot wait for that. Would be cool if 21
had online, I know it definitely won't, but in a Dead Rising 2 random multiplayer gameshow kind of way.
brandonh83
Banned
Thinking on a portion I did last night, how you
. Absolutely brilliant. I can't believe people are saying that it starts strong but gets weaker, I'm in the latter part
section and it has been at least as good, and creative. Story also got a lot more interesting.
play through the birthday tape with Clancy and die in a fire, then find yourself in the exact same place as Ethan and wondering what you're supposed to do in order to avoid that fate
of the ship
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It should just download when it's available. PSN updates at different itimes for different regions, but the first DLC (Banned Footage Volume 1) releases on PS4 today and should release within the next 24 hours.
Just finished it . Last area and final boss was weak unfortunately but I really liked the rest of the game (better than RE5 and 6).
Liked the grandma reveal and how you end up in the first location at the end. Also lmao at Ethan throwing the phone out of the helicopter at the end (ending 2).
tintin1029
Member
All of these sound great, I should probably get the season pass.
Ah, thanks.
I enjoyed the ship but i think the game does lose something without the looming threat of the Bakers
all i know that the streams earlier today where from nz thats why they have the dlc today because its the 31 there
brandonh83
Banned
My take on this is that you have
three very elaborate portions of the game involving the Bakers
maybe if it were the entire game that it may feel lacking in variety. The first half with Jack and Marge is a good chunk of the game, but it's still just hiding and solving puzzles, making progress
It's fantastic, but for me variety is the spice of life, and I think how they change it up after the second half with
the entire Lucas section being brilliant, and switching you over to Mia's POV as you explore that dark ship with very little resources leading to the more action-packed tape was very cool
ship also feels somewhat like a traditional lab section, as you go from old decrepit houses to industrial structure
Essentially, I think the game stays strong and changes things up later. This is a good thing to me. It doesn't stay with the exact same shtick.
The perfect Dark
Banned
How many endings does this game have btw?
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Two endings.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I think the game really could have used another difficulty. Something in between normal and madhouse. Maybe a mode that's basically identical to normal but with less items and limited saves. I would have picked that at the start. I was about to pick madhouse on my first run but the game was insisting that was a bad idea for a first run. Which is probably right. Game needed a hard mode.
Fancy Clown
Member
Agreed
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
So, I finished the game last night, but I could never figure out exactly how blocking works. With the defense coin, sometimes it seemed to nullify damage completely, while other times I seemed to take damage.
Is there a detailed explanation out there that someone can help me with? Are you supposed to time it correctly or is the effect the same as long as your arms are up?
Is there a detailed explanation out there that someone can help me with? Are you supposed to time it correctly or is the effect the same as long as your arms are up?
Fancy Clown
Member
The Bakers helped with the variety though. Because in addition to puzzle solving and exploring and fighting the occasional molded, you have to worry about these unique stalker type enemies that are very destiny in function and personality. Towards the end of the game you lose the more distinct detailed enemies and locations (compare the individual rooms of the Baker mansion to the ones of the ship, the ship rooms all blend together for me but each room in the Baker house tells a unqiue story and feels different) and instead you're just going through more linear areas with fewer puzzles and the focus is almost entirely on shooting molded with no new enemy types added in to compensate.
That sounds pretty dope actually.
tintin1029
Member
Yeah, this might be the mercenaries mode this game needs.
Jawmuncher
Member
I will completely disagree about harder puzzles. If we're asking for it period and not as a option like in silent hill games. This is another case where the die hard community here isn't evident of the masses. My more casual friends are having some trouble with the puzzles, but still figuring them out. So right now I feel their at a good balance. Only thing I would say for certain is that they need more variety. The shadow stuff was way too frequent.
Watching the DLC of the first, and reading the summary of the second. Sounds like they'll be neat diversions. But the first isn't looking like it'll have the meat of mercs and raids for long term.
Watching the DLC of the first, and reading the summary of the second. Sounds like they'll be neat diversions. But the first isn't looking like it'll have the meat of mercs and raids for long term.
brandonh83
Banned
I'm in agreement. I'm just saying that I'm totally fine with the game doing other things as it goes.
Jack section was unique, Marge section was unique, Lucas section was even more unique, ship, etc. That's as far as I am though so I can't comment about the rest of the game
It's like after showing the shadow puzzle in one of the trailers, Capcpom was all "we can't go back".
The perfect Dark
Banned
Meh :/
Fancy Clown
Member
I thought the Lucas section could have been better. I liked the traps, but not actually encountering Lucas at all + the linearity was kinda disappointing. Avoiding a stalker and traps at the same time while exploring would have been tense as hell. The ship has good level design and atmosphere though at least to compensate for feeling kinda by the numbers. I won't spoil the rest of the game obviously but I think the end game is pretty weak.
Guys
I really need some advice here. I think I messed up my collectables run and dont know the best course of action.
I am in the house and just finished the dissection room.
I missed some items in the first area, the guest house. do I get a chance to go back and get them? is it worth while to continue with the antique coins/data pages if I cant go back and get them?
are those collectables counted on the current play through or across all saves? if so could I just go and make a save and run and get them and the trophies/unlockables will pop?
I think I have got all the MR everywhere so far so ill continue to get them. I just need clarification on the data pages and coins.
Thanks !
The coin I missed was the
I really need some advice here. I think I messed up my collectables run and dont know the best course of action.
I am in the house and just finished the dissection room.
I missed some items in the first area, the guest house. do I get a chance to go back and get them? is it worth while to continue with the antique coins/data pages if I cant go back and get them?
are those collectables counted on the current play through or across all saves? if so could I just go and make a save and run and get them and the trophies/unlockables will pop?
I think I have got all the MR everywhere so far so ill continue to get them. I just need clarification on the data pages and coins.
Thanks !
The coin I missed was the
first video you watch with the camera man/two anchors doing the haunted house show. can i watch that again some how and get the coin in the kitchen of the guest house?
Already Torn
Banned
Just had an anatomy practical- all I could think of the entire time was this game when looking at those gross corpses.
I think the games getting much easier as you go on works well thematically. A "face your fears" kind of things. This is why they normally change from horror to scifi vibes too.
I think the games getting much easier as you go on works well thematically. A "face your fears" kind of things. This is why they normally change from horror to scifi vibes too.
brandonh83
Banned
I thought the
Lucas stuff
barn rave
birthday tape/repeat of birthday tape
Lucas
what is this crazy lunatic going to throw
tintin1029
Member
Oh yeah, nothing will beat mercenaries mode.
But I could easily see myself blowing tons of more hours on Ethan Must Die alone
Fancy Clown
Member
The
happy birthday
the ship
trap
Already Torn
Banned
How do I download Banned Footage? Someone has one of the trophies for it.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Tomorrow on PS4, other platforms I think both DLC 1 & 2 release on the 21st.
tintin1029
Member
I feel like the game could've had more
cool scavenger hunting in the 3rd act. As soon as you get the cop head in the fridge I was getting super hyped like "Holy crap, do I have to go back to the main house and do a bunch of more shit there" and unfortunately it doesn't go as far with that as I wanted it to, you just go to the cops body and that's it. I wish we had more reasons to explore the main house again.
LUXURY
Member
I'm enjoying this game, however
As much as I enjoy this game, it doesn't really feel like Resident Evil. It could be it's own horror game. I don't feel too much of a Resident Evil vibe from this except green herbs.
the ship bit started to dip for me. The whole demon/possessed child has been done to death and just reminded me of the past 5 years of shitty horror films based on it. I'm passed the ship part moving onto the next section so I hope it picks back up for me.
brandonh83
Banned
Hmmm I thought there was a bit more to it than that,
getting the keycards and the bedroom/attic. By that point I thought I'd seen enough of the house, and really I'm not sure what much else they could've did
tintin1029
Member
Hmmm I thought there was a bit more to it than that,, it's intricate enough but it's not a Spencer mansiongetting the keycards and the bedroom/attic. By that point I thought I'd seen enough of the house, and really I'm not sure what much else they could've did
Well I mean
the house itself got all molded up, so it'd be interesting to have the house itself have more stuff in it now that it looks different. It'd be cool to at least have more optional stuff.
brandonh83
Banned
I would absolutely love the next game to be like this, but even more robust and fleshed out. I think it's fleshed out enough on its own but it's hard not to think about the original for example. I think RE7 was largely an experiment that turned out to be an awesome game, but it doesn't quite hit the level of intricacy found in the first few games. This is an area that can be improved upon. I'm just saying that personally by the time you're through with that stuff that I was happy to see the change-ups that happened.
I've never enjoyed shadows in any game, usually turn them down or off as I see no benefit.
Cheers, I'll turn everything up and see if that works out.