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Neiteio

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Further locations are much smaller in scope: the hospital is more or less the size of the Clock Tower: three floors with only 1-3 small rooms on each floor (bonus: cut-scenes and enemy layout depend on which floor you pick to visit first), but almost each room contain a puzzle; the park is just a couple of corridors you have to explore (and backtrack) that ends with the cemetery (a single location with a small warehouse). And Dead Factory is smaller than RE1 lab.

The first half of the game is certainly much more interesting when it comes to locations.

Also, a huge tip: when you will be leaving the Clock Tower and heading to the park, bring a lockpick with you. Seriously, this is one of those moments where the game wants you to use an item you forgot you even have, that is stored somewhere at the bottom of the chest; but if you forget it, well, it's backtracking time (through a spiders- or brain suckers-filled corridor).

This is actually because BIO3 was doubled in scale halfway into development but still released on its original due date.
Neat to know! And thanks for the tip on the lockpick.

I already feel like I've had an amazing experience with the escape from uptown/downtown, and I liked the puzzle-based chapel/clocktower, so more of that in the hospital sounds good. I'll consider everything after that a bonus!

In a way, it feels like RE3 is more of a journey -- a prelude to the format the series would take from RE4 onwards, where you're moving across distant locations.
 
I've never played the outbreak games. Are there areas in that of raccoon city that could possibly be included in a remake of 3? Just expanding and completing the city would be kind of cool.
 

Ludens

Banned
Completed CV, got a D because I saved and healed a lot with everything, did 4 retries...but it's OK, since I played it in the safe way. Anyway I just realized the plot is garbage: Claire went to Paris looking for Chris, she is captured, than later she sent a mail to Leon who contacts Chris, and finally Chris finds Claire not only on the island, since he has the location thanks to Leon, but also on Antarctic, with no clue at all, since Rodrigo knew nothing about. So many plot holes.
 

Neiteio

Member
I bought CVX, but I'm mixed on whether I want to play the whole game. I liked its scenario in Darkside Chronicles, and I enjoyed what I played of the start, but I'm not sure I want to tough out what sounds like an uneven game when I could replay RE2, RE3, etc. :)
 
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Deleted member 47027

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I bought CVX, but I'm mixed on whether I want to play the whole game. I liked its scenario in Darkside Chronicles, and I enjoyed what I played of the start, but I'm not sure I want to tough out what sounds like an uneven game when I could replay RE2, RE3, etc. :)

Don't be a weenie. Get it done.
 

Neff

Member
Given that at the time RE3 was released Wesker was simply a dude who wears shades in indoor locations (and during a night missions ffs), and his greatest achievement in the whole game was killing Enrico and then being killed by his "ultimate failure" ("Don't come this way! Nooooooo!!") I would say that Nicholai is a much better villain that RE1 Wesker could only dreamed to be.

Wesker standing in a hallway shooting bees while blatant 'suspicious character' music plays > Nikolai's entire screen time combined

Irons was a little over-the-top for me. Sure, Nicholai is your stereotypical Russian bad guy, but at least for a long time you can think of him as a companion. It's only in the third part of the game you learn about his true agenda and it's still done in quite realistic fashion. Irons on the other hand... we are to believe that a psycho guy with a freaking dungeon (where he kills and stuffs his preys) under his office is the chief of RPD. Yeah... nope.

Personally, realism isn't something I'll ever chase in gaming. I just have to want to be invested in it, and Irons being a terrific, grotesque, truly despicable villain certainly made that happen.

...which CVX may be. I hear many different takes on it.

The only moment of true bullshit in the game to my knowledge is the final boss which is pure hit stun spam and near-impossible to beat if not actually impossible without at least two full heals.

The game is a classic imo and a must play for RE completionists.
 

Neiteio

Member
Wesker standing in a hallway shooting bees while blatant 'suspicious character' music plays > Nikolai's entire screen time combined
Haha, that scene is hilarious. I like how Wesker is shady as fuck (why does he wear sunglasses indoors at night??), but then he's like "Hey Jill, did you notice Barry seems a bit flaky," and Jill's all like, "OMG, you're right!"
 
I bought CVX, but I'm mixed on whether I want to play the whole game. I liked its scenario in Darkside Chronicles, and I enjoyed what I played of the start, but I'm not sure I want to tough out what sounds like an uneven game when I could replay RE2, RE3, etc. :)

It has better puzzles than RE2 (which are the weakest of the old style games), though visually despite originally being on Dreamcast it end ups looking worse overall than the PS1 games due to the 3D environments not ageing as well as pre-rendered backgrounds. Also feels like steps backwards from RE3 in gameplay mechanics, you can quickturn but cannot freely move up/down stairs, it's either all way up, or all way down. Was quite self-censored too, no decapatations or zombies, cannot blow anything apart even with rocket launcher, things die but stay intact.

Holds no replay value at all, no multiple characters like RE1/2 (the Claire/Chris split is one joined campign), no alternate scenes or alternate endings like RE1/3, no A/B scenario like RE2, nothing.

Also the only unlockable for the main game is the Infinite Rocket Launcher, the mini-game reward is for the minigame use only, and Claire's alt costume is minigame only.

Is imo the worst mainline game, but still worth playing through once.

Also Steve is an awful character.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Yet nobody questions how good of a shot Wesker is shooting a goddamn bee

That should have been your first clue
 

Neiteio

Member
Main thing that annoyed me from what I played of CVX is how Claire just turns in place without moving her legs, lol.

Also, it seems like you have to take damage in certain areas, like the graveyard at the start.

I thought the game looked OK, but I'm playing the HD version with the added shadows, so that might be helping.
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
Wesker standing in a hallway shooting bees while blatant 'suspicious character' music plays > Nikolai's entire screen time combined

As I recall they changed bees into a spider in Director's Cut and then changed it back to bees in REmake. I wonder why, since it makes Wesker look so incompetent.

However, nothing beats Wesker's and Chris dialouge when Wesker's introduces Tyrant to Wesker.

W: That's right, this is the ultimate life form - Tyrant!
C: Hohoho...
W: Chris?
C: Hahaha...
W: Stop it!



About CODE: Veronica, I would love for Capcom to release it on PC, if only because modders could put DSC characters' models (and maybe environment) into the game.

Also the only unlockable for the main game is the Infinite Rocket Launcher, the mini-game reward is for the minigame use only, and Claire's alt costume is minigame only.

And the alt costume is ugly. Like, *in Barry's voice* just take a look at THIS:
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The concept (the render after you finish the minigame in that costume) looks nice, but the execution on in-game model is meh.

Also, it's really annoying that it's the first game with really detailed characters, dynamic camera angels, action cut-scenes, lots of close-ups etc., and yet it's the only game that doesn't have any alt costumes in the campaign.
 

Finalow

Member
playing REmake for the first time, it's quite good, and harder than I thought; apparently I suck at dodging zombies.
my habit of saving 40 times on different save files every 5 minutes doesn't work well with the Ink Ribbon system but it's definitely fitting for the atmosphere of the game, so I'm not complaining. that true survival horror feeling is there

oh, Barry is the best.
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
playing REmake for the first time, it's quite good, and harder than I thought; apparently I suck at dodging zombies.

I remember, when I first played the game, I had to restart it like three or four times before I finally reached the first save room. :D
 

Neiteio

Member
playing REmake for the first time, it's quite good, and harder than I thought; apparently I suck at dodging zombies.
my habit of saving 40 times on different save files every 5 minutes doesn't work well with the Ink Ribbon system but it's definitely fitting for the atmosphere of the game, so I'm not complaining. that true survival horror feeling is there

oh, Barry is the best.
You're going to run out of ink ribbons, at least for a while.

I ran into a situation where I exhausted all of the ink ribbons in the main mansion. So I had to do the following before finding the next set of ink ribbons:

- Evade Yawn in the attic and get the death mask
- Get the death mask from the knights
- Get the death mask from the stained glass corridor
- Take them to the crypt and fight the Elder Crimson Head
- Proceed through the courtyard to the cabin in the woods
- Get the crank and return to the courtyard
- Enter the next area, Residence

Then I finally found more ink ribbons to save. Tense! Since then, I've been super-conservative with using ribbons.

I remember, when I first played the game, I had to restart it like three or four times before I finally reached the first save room. :D
The first save room in REmake is immediately to the left of the start. You can't miss it and you don't encounter any enemies before it!
 
Main thing that annoyed me from what I played of CVX is how Claire just turns in place without moving her legs, lol.

Also, it seems like you have to take damage in certain areas, like the graveyard at the start.

I thought the game looked OK, but I'm playing the HD version with the added shadows, so that might be helping.

The HD release looks far better, the original versions used fogging in areas and in general the game looked really dull.

So what do you do if you have no ink ribbons left and you need to sleep?

Either find one, lose progress when you turn it off, or leave the game running but paused :p
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
The first save room in REmake is immediately to the left of the start. You can't miss it and you don't encounter any enemies before it!

Well, I mean the save room, with item chest, save room music and all that. I know about the typewriter in the dinning room but that doesn't count. >_>
 

Neiteio

Member
So what do you do if you have no ink ribbons left and you need to sleep?
I guess you could leave your system on....

REmake can be pretty brutal with its ink ribbons for the first-time player.

RE2, on the other hand, is extremely generous with them. I saved regularly (after every other key item I collected). By the end of each scenario, I had saved about 20 times and still had 10+ ribbons remaining.

RE3 seems like it's closer to REmake. I rarely have more than five ribbons on me. I try to get a decent amount of stuff done per ribbon. Trying not to go below three ribbons at a time.

For each of the above, I was playing on the highest default difficulty, which is what the games recommend.
 

Neiteio

Member
The HD release looks far better, the original versions used fogging in areas and in general the game looked really dull.
Yeah, CVX HD has a nice atmosphere to it with the shadow-drenched environments. And the light from fires and when you use the lighter looks amazing. So warm compared to the cold drizzly rain!

Well, I mean the save room, with item chest, save room music and all that. I know about the typewriter in the dinning room but that doesn't count. >_>
Oh! Yeah, I can see how that would be a perilous journey. There are like three zombies guarding the stairwell leading to it, as well.
 

strafer

member
The HD release looks far better, the original versions used fogging in areas and in general the game looked really dull.



Either find one, lose progress when you turn it off, or leave the game running but paused :p

I guess you could leave your system on....

REmake can be pretty brutal with its ink ribbons for the first-time player.

RE2, on the other hand, is extremely generous with them. I saved regularly (after every other key item I collected). By the end of each scenario, I had saved about 20 times and still had 10+ ribbons remaining.

RE3 seems like it's closer to REmake. I rarely have more than five ribbons on me. I try to get a decent amount of stuff done per ribbon. Trying not to go below three ribbons at a time.

For each of the above, I was playing on the highest default difficulty, which is what the games recommend.

Does the game have some kind of cheat detection? Because I might end up using cheat engine to get myself some ink ribbons.

I really hate those because Im the type of guy who saves after every thing I do.
 
Whatever progress you made in 2 hours of exploring, once you actually know what to do, you can repeat the progress in like 5 minutes, so when in doubt, just don't save.
 

Neiteio

Member
Does the game have some kind of cheat detection? Because I might end up using cheat engine to get myself some ink ribbons.

I really hate those because Im the type of guy who saves after every thing I do.
The way I played REmake, I would make a save, and then see how far I could get on that save, scouting out upcoming areas. Then I'd reset and efficiently repeat what I had just done, knowing what's coming. Like others have said, once you know what to do, you can easily get done in 5-10 minutes what might've took one or two hours of cautious exploration the first time.
 

Metalmarc

Member
hello fellow Resi/Biohazard fans

Been a fan off and on since i saw my friend play part two on his P.C in the 90's and 'that' first dog scene scared the crap outta me, i skipped the ps2/gamecube era of gaming mostly (got in music as main hobby, trying to date girls etc haha and of course missed one of the best eras in gaming history possibly, but slowly working my way back through that era now) got slowly back into the series with 5 on the PS3

I cant wait (hope) we get a full main series physical collection for this console Gen, well in the UK (i think 4-6 disc ps has only been announced for usa so far right?) I'm going to try to collect them all.

1-6 all physical all remastered (well 2 is being worked on of course and i hope they do part 3 remake ) and hopefully we get a seven this gen too, and just this past week i bought revelations 2, and the origins collection.. i wish we could get Revelations 1 on PS4 too just to add to the PS4 resi collection.

Having only played the Main series games 1-6 which spinnoff ones should i try besides revelations?

I should add i have fond memories off 2 so i hope the remake does it jutice like remake 1 did

2 is my favourite, then Remake/Four, i put on 6 a few times a year and enjoy myself
 
hello fellow Resi/Biohazard fans

Been a fan off and on since i saw my friend play part two on his P.C in the 90's and 'that' first dog scene scared the crap outta me, i skipped the ps2/gamecube era of gaming mostly (got in music as main hobby, trying to date girls etc haha and of course missed one of the best eras in gaming history possibly, but slowly working my way back through that era now) got slowly back into the series with 5 on the PS3

I cant wait (hope) we get a full main series physical collection for this console Gen, well in the UK (i think 4-6 disc ps has only been announced for usa so far right?) I'm going to try to collect them all.

1-6 all physical all remastered (well 2 is being worked on of course and i hope they do part 3 remake ) and hopefully we get a seven this gen too, and just this past week i bought revelations 2, and the origins collection.. i wish we could get Revelations 1 on PS4 too just to add to the PS4 resi collection.

Having only played the Main series games 1-6 which spinnoff ones should i try besides revelations?

I should add i have fond memories off 2 so i hope the remake does it jutice like remake 1 did

2 is my favourite, then Remake/Four
I guiltily put on 6 a few times a year and enjoy myself

Well, recently there has been a lot of fond discussion in the thread over the light gun shooters Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles, both of which iirc are available for download on PSN and were originally released on Wii.

The Outbreak games have some good characters and scenarios if you have a PS2 handy. I believe there are some fan servers going, but it provides more classic RE on a timer.

As for the Gun Survivor titles, I can't speak much for as I don't recall them clearly.

Avoid Gaiden, which is I believe is the only 100% non-canon title in the series.

Dino Crisis 1 & 2, while not spinoffs, are essentially RE with dinosaurs and very much worth playing.

Avoid Dino Crisis 3. Offensive trash.
 

Metalmarc

Member
Well, recently there has been a lot of fond discussion in the thread over the light gun shooters Umbrella Chronicles and Darkside Chronicles, both of which iirc are available for download on PSN and were originally released on Wii.

The Outbreak games have some good characters and scenarios if you have a PS2 handy.

As for the Gun Survivor titles, I can't speak much for as I don't recall them clearly.

Avoid Gaiden, which is I believe the only 100% non-canon title in the series.


Wow quick. Reply thanks, yeah i have a PS2 now again, and i used to love lightgun games
 

Neiteio

Member
hello fellow Resi/Biohazard fans

Been a fan off and on since i saw my friend play part two on his P.C in the 90's and 'that' first dog scene scared the crap outta me, i skipped the ps2/gamecube era of gaming mostly (got in music as main hobby, trying to date girls etc haha and of course missed one of the best eras in gaming history possibly, but slowly working my way back through that era now) got slowly back into the series with 5 on the PS3

I cant wait (hope) we get a full main series physical collection for this console Gen, well in the UK (i think 4-6 disc ps has only been announced for usa so far right?) I'm going to try to collect them all.

1-6 all physical all remastered (well 2 is being worked on of course and i hope they do part 3 remake ) and hopefully we get a seven this gen too, and just this past week i bought revelations 2, and the origins collection.. i wish we could get Revelations 1 on PS4 too just to add to the PS4 resi collection.

Having only played the Main series games 1-6 which spinnoff ones should i try besides revelations?

I should add i have fond memories off 2 so i hope the remake does it jutice like remake 1 did

2 is my favourite, then Remake/Four, i put on 6 a few times a year and enjoy myself
Right now on the PSN sale, you can download both Chronicles games for the price of lunch at a fast-food restaurant. I have both, but I've only played Darkside Chronicles so far. It's fantastic, and I'm only playing it with a regular controller.
 

Neff

Member
Gaiden may be total horseshit but it's incredibly entertaining horseshit. I'd rather play it than ORC, anyday.
 
I don't really mind that RE0 doesn't have item boxes. But I freaking hate whoever decided that heavy weapons should take up two freaking blocks in inventory........ :/
 

joe2187

Banned
Yeah!

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except I didnt get the trophy for killing all the bosses with rebecca.

What the hell. I know I didn't touch the right analog stick during the fight either.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
REmake 2 concept art is the most I expect out of that game, but better than nothing.

It's been about a year and some. I expect a little teaser. More than likely some music the Leon model and the RPD fountain. That and a quick glance to show how it plays. So either a over the shoulder view or classic fixed camera
 
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I bought CVX, but I'm mixed on whether I want to play the whole game. I liked its scenario in Darkside Chronicles, and I enjoyed what I played of the start, but I'm not sure I want to tough out what sounds like an uneven game when I could replay RE2, RE3, etc. :)

Play CVX. It's probably the most polarizing of the classic style REs but that's because just as many people adore it as can't stand it. And considering how much you like other polarizing RE games (ie 5&6), you owe it to yourself to form your own opinion on CVX.
 

Neiteio

Member
Play CVX. It's probably the most polarizing of the classic style REs but that's because just as many people adore it as can't stand it. And considering how much you like other polarizing RE games (ie 5&6), you owe it to yourself to form your own opinion on CVX.
Yeah, I'll probably play it. I haven't played an RE game I haven't loved.

I didn't realize it until recently, but along with the Souls series, RE is probably my favorite series in games.

And what's impressive about RE is that unlike Souls, there are so many different forms that RE takes.

Classic with tank controls and fixed camera angles, unraveling a few locations over time.

Modern with over-the-shoulder, stop-and-pop, contextual melee action against hordes of enemies that follow and flank.

So different, yet somehow still "RE" in spirit. To me, at least!
 

Nudull

Banned
I have to wonder, where was Capcom planning to go with Gaiden's ending? Was Leon originally intended to die/disappear before RE4 got overhauled?
 

News Bot

Banned
I have to wonder, where was Capcom planning to go with Gaiden's ending? Was Leon originally intended to die/disappear before RE4 got overhauled?

Gaiden was an alternative universe side-story. It wasn't connected to the canon, so they could do what they liked with character progression and such.

In the same vein, Ada kills HUNK off-page in one of the drama albums.
 

Nudull

Banned
Gaiden was an alternative universe side-story. It wasn't connected to the canon, so they could do what they liked with character progression and such.

In the same vein, Ada kills HUNK off-page in one of the drama albums.

Huh. I remember reading somewhere (may have been TVTropes) about Gaiden being made as a precursor to an earlier version of Resident Evil 4 before Capcom eventually said "screw it" and retconned it from orbit.
 

News Bot

Banned
Huh. I remember reading somewhere (may have been TVTropes) about Gaiden being made as a precursor to an earlier version of Resident Evil 4 before Capcom eventually said "screw it" and retconned it from orbit.

That's one of the many pieces of fan speculation that got picked up and regurgitated constantly as fact for years. It's simply untrue, though. The scenario of that earlier version of BIO4 had absolutely no connection to Gaiden besides Leon working for the same underground anti-Umbrella organization formed by the U.S. Government.
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
It would've been fine had they just had 8 slots each, or even one character.

They should give Rebecca 8 slots, if only because there's a huge portion of game where you're alone and just 6 slots (with 2 wasted on shotgun/grenade launcher) is just not enough.

Also, at least it would make Rebecca somehow useful, because with her pitiful health and worse aiming than Billy, she's really a pack mule and herb mixer.
 
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